Why not Chiesa.
Ismaila Sarr
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We need a RW but Sarr is not better than anything we already have at the club. Our money would be better spent elsewhere to be honest.
Please no.
I genuinely think I'd rather have Brooks, especially if we were to spend 40m on Sarr. I'm just far from convinced by him
Yeah, Sarr's frame is completely different as well, he's pretty damn tall. I think the closest in style (not talent) is Bale when he got moved up to winger.
Anyone think we'll try for Sancho until Monday, then after that deadline if we didn't get him we will sign Sarr in the domestic window?
He’s easily a more adaptable player than Dan James. He’s not a kick and run merchant.
Sancho, Telles, Sarr - Pereira loaned out, Dalot loaned out. That wouldn't be that bad business, in a case that Tuanzebe lives up the hype of Ole and some here to fit into our CB's contention with Bailly.
But he's not better than Greenwood. We should be looking to improve our first 11, not our second string
Completely agree but the comment I replied to said he wasn’t better than anyone at the club.
He's a better winger than Greenwood is. We don't have anyone who can keep width on the right.
Well, I'm certainly not going to write him off. I said to every man and his dog I didn't want Mane and he's made me look like a mug, so maybe this could be us making up for that deal.
We don't play with wide wingers, we play with wingers that cut in and we rely on our full backs to create the width.
To be fair not many players will come in and be better than Greenwood on current form.
But they clearly don't, so why would not want to have an alternative?
Because that's not the way we're looking to play. Having a lone target man in the box in the form of Martial while our wingers pump crosses in is a complete waste of time, which is why Rashford and Greenwood/James cut in and crowd the box so the full backs can cross or play the ball in via Fernandes. The problem is that the players doing it aren't always the best. Our movement in the final 3rd is particularly poor some days. I can't imagine Sarr would be a massive upgrade in this regard so we should look to add someone that will give us a better option.
Diogo Jota went for about the same money and is a far better and more established player than Sarr is. He's still very young too and Wolves even had an outside shot of 4th place with 6 or 7 games to go.
If we sign Sarr then our club is even more broken than I thought. What's the point of adding yet another unproven / inconsistent player to the ranks? We've got enough of those already. I can understand Sancho might be out of reach but surely we can do better than Sarr.
If we sign Sarr then our club is even more broken than I thought. What's the point of adding yet another unproven / inconsistent player to the ranks? We've got enough of those already. I can understand Sancho might be out of reach but surely we can do better than Sarr.
Based on what I've seen from him I'm all for this transfer. We need manpower on the right side and he can offer something different than Greenwood. Dan James can be used as an occasional LW (whenever he gets his confidence back, he's been terrible for months).
Maybe we would see him and Telles taking care of the flanks in a 3-5-2?
Maybe we would see him and Telles taking care of the flanks in a 3-5-2?
Good player with lots of potential.
I'd much rather we spend a little more and try for St Maximin. Dribbling wise Maximin is on another level to Sarr and imo with the right coaching can easily add more goals and assists to his game.
He’s a good player but will be immediately written off by some fans as we have failed to sign Sancho.
I'd rather we went for Chiesa than Sarr - though I do think Chiesa would be a bigger gamble (having never played in the PL)
He is a good player, but £40m on him is a waste. He offers very little different to what James does now, and he will be a squad player.
A fair price for him is £20m, maximum. If we're paying £40m, get Brooks instead. While he isn't as strong or quick, he more than makes up for it in intelligence, technique and versatility. He would actually improve the squad in the things which it currently lacks. Sarr would just add to what we already have in abundance: pace and counter-attacking ability. He'd be close to useless for us in any games where we come up against a low block, for example.
We could do with better coaches too!
God no. How depressing after Sancho.
Why does having someone who keeps width and play as a winger mean that? There's plenty of different ways to play and also someone being able to keep width creates more space in the middle. If it's between him and Brooks, I think i'd go for Sarr.
Can't we just get Perisic on loan deal then get Sancho or maybe even Dembele next summer
Sarr is so different to James as a player that even the comparison is pointless.
Think the comparisons are there because it has been suggested he also only operates well with open space and not well against a low block
I respect your opinion, and Jota and Thiago are great players - Thiago especially, however its never a dead cert that players will perform at the same level at a new club. For all we know, Thiago could easily 'do a Veron', making them weaker. Likewise, for all we know, Sarr could come to us and whilst i dont think the potential is there to become an elite winger, he could easily be Nani level for us. It all depends on how the team adapts to the things he does well and could those abilities be put to more consistent use.... IE become part of our overall strategy.
Would much rather bring in someone in on loan and go back for Sancho next summer.
Offer Watford a substantial loan fee and give them James in return.
Offer Watford a substantial loan fee and give them James in return.
Like AWB and Shaw do??? They hardly provide enough width when you compare them to the Liverpool full backs, but that may have something to do with the fact that our CB pairing are not up to scratch and faced with one on ones we have a huge problem, thus we don't want to commit ourselves
We would still be able to sign him in 2 weeks wouldn’t we?
I believe so yes.
On his own, spending 40m would be disappointing, but if James leaves on loan to Leeds, and we offer Watford a nice loan fee for Sarr, say 10m, with a option to buy at 40m (loan fee deductible) and also buy someone like Thauvin for 13m as well who offers something different with his left foot and dribbling, i would be down with that.
Its no Sancho but between the two of them for 23m they could offer a pretty nice option. And if we don't want Sarr, Sancho is there next year....
Its no Sancho but between the two of them for 23m they could offer a pretty nice option. And if we don't want Sarr, Sancho is there next year....
I still have my doubt if Sarr is good enough to be United 3rd choice of wide attacker.
However, I disagree with your statement about we should be looking to find someone better than Greenwood. Not many available players in the current market are on Sancho level or obvious upgrade of Greenwood. Even if we sign the player who is better than Greenwood, ''on paper'', we are still nowhere near worth of title challenger.
For Sancho's alternative, I think what we need to do is to give Greenwood more regular games in first 11, develop him and turn him into top players like how we used to give it to Ronaldo & Rooney in their early 2-3 years.
Anyone with quality of Douglas Costa (if we ignore his injury problem), Perisic, Coman are someone who doesn't mind to sit on the bench but also good enough for top team backup to challenge the first 11 and can step up when needed especially starting in CL games. It's painful to see how the other 5 of the top 6 teams have better depth attackers than us.
Lots of speculation here that he is useless against a low block (hate that term).
Just curious if anyone has actually seen him play against a low block and if so, who sets up a low block against bloody Watford!?
Just curious if anyone has actually seen him play against a low block and if so, who sets up a low block against bloody Watford!?