Twitter is completely unreliable.
ISIS in Iraq and Syria
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those 2 people are both there, they tweet live pictures and stuff.
Cahitstorm dude isn't going to be able to judge the situation of the town from outside, he can't see inside. He's talking rubbish, only listen to him for air strikes and stuff.
That cahitstorm guy is having the time of his life in that field. Cracking jokes, eating peppers and fighting scorpions.
US officials basically saying that they weren't considered about kobane and its too premature to consider it a strategic loss.
I take it the explosion didn't come from a Kurdish rifle.
CNN didn't publish one single piece of news regarding the protests in Turkey until last couple of hours!!
Are you really surprised
@sun_tzu Kobane is still standing today
@Relevated Nope. Would have been surprised if we were in early 2013 though.
I went on a lengthy rant on Facebook, this morning, about the Turkish treatment of Kurds.
I blame Suli for this, entirely.
I blame Suli for this, entirely.
Not sure they should have to be honest. They're currently freaking out about the Ebola in the US and have limited other time which they're using for the ISIS threat.
They still haven't found that missing Malaysia Airlines plane and there's Ebola in America. How can they think about something else at a time like this?
All US officials' words today about Kobane inevitably falling. . What's their strategy then? Why the airstrikes if it's a finished battle ?
I think the question is how long will ISIS keep trying? If long enough, they'll capture it, since no one will provide the necessary ground forces but the Kurds.
. What's their strategy then? Why the airstrikes if it's a finished battle ?I think the question is how long will ISIS keep trying? If long enough, they'll capture it, since no one will provide the necessary ground forces but the Kurds.
It's more a case of the AKP treatment of Kurds.
Air strikes stop advancements by reinforcements and vehicles, they don't stop anything in the city. So ISIS advancements have stopped but they are still in the city, street fights.All US officials' words today about Kobane inevitably falling.
I think the question is how long will ISIS keep trying? If long enough, they'll capture it, since no one will provide the necessary ground forces but the Kurds.
ISIS keep on bringing reinforcements, this is the issue. You kill 100 and 300 more appear.
All US officials' words today about Kobane inevitably falling.
I think the question is how long will ISIS keep trying? If long enough, they'll capture it, since no one will provide the necessary ground forces but the Kurds.
There's really not much the US can do about Kobane, nor is it their responsibility. Given how far it is from Iraq and how close it is to Turkey, its really the Turks who should be making an effort to save it.
...and they won't and ISIS will keep sending reinforcements to God knows when!! So will the US just keep bombing the area for good ?!
The Kurds don't want Turkish boots on the ground too, they'll consider it an invasion!! I think their only hope is that ISIS gives up. May be that's the aim of all these strikes, increasing the costs to ISIS eventually forcing them to withdraw.
So it's a matter of who will give up sooner !!
The Kurds don't want Turkish boots on the ground too, they'll consider it an invasion!! I think their only hope is that ISIS gives up. May be that's the aim of all these strikes, increasing the costs to ISIS eventually forcing them to withdraw.
So it's a matter of who will give up sooner !!
You kill 100 and 300 more appear.
I'd like to ask a couple of really basic questions, seems some here are quite knowledgeable about ISIS.
1. Who are they?
2. Who is funding them?
1. Who are they?
2. Who is funding them?
everyone keeps saying king abdullah is dead, im pretty sure that rumour pops up every year though.
The answer to the first question will be long, and someone will answer that but regarding the second question, they're pretty much self sufficient now and rely on war booty.
Is this the party that lots of Western looking Turks protested against, in large numbers, not long back?
If you're referring to the Gezi protests, yeah. It's such a shame that 'white Turks' have to live with that shitty reputation abroad and be increasingly ostracized in their own country.
For 2 - as has been pointed out they seem to have done v well out of war booty. I understand that they controll some oil refineries and are selling the stuff on black market. They are also using abandoned weaponry and tanks from iraqi bases. I read somewhere that they even raided the national bank in Mosul..
Didn't occur to me how "Western looking" could come across. For clarity, I meant that their political outlook was more Western.
Anyway, I thought the protestors were pretty highly thought of, in other countries.
They are funding themselves. They make several million dollars a day through black market oil, extortion, kidnappings, etc. They have a complex accounting system to ensure that they track their revenue, etc. They also allegedly raided the reserves from the bank in Mosul so they could have bullion or massive amounts of US Dollars from that. They also don't have to buy any petrol because they just get it from the refineries they control. The Iraqi government has prevented strikes on the oil wells, which is where ISIS get their revenue from selling illicit crude oil.
The mosul bank story was reported as false i think
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/a...ocalypse-rally-islamic-state-jihadists-603466
But....but....IS has nothing to do with religion.
No, there's no problem with 'western looking'. They're referred to as 'White Turks' in Turkey.
I'm referring to when they travel. I'm sure the protesters were revered outside of Turkey, but it's a different matter when Turkish people are travelling abroad, particularly in Europe. They're just Turkish. When I've spoken to people about Turkey when abroad, the ignorance sometimes surprises me.
Thanks for the answers. My next question - who buys such quantities of oil on the black market?
People who run petrol stations. My family used to run one in the early 90's and I vaguely remember burly men in tankers driving in and offering it on the cheap.