ISIS in Iraq and Syria

It's great to see feminism taking a step forward in the Middle East. This is the best way to counter extremism and smash through outdated gender stereotypes at the same time.

I bet it takes her ages to park her plane, though.
 
I think she means the West not attacking the middle east anymore. Unfortunately, we're well beyond the stage of laying down arms as doing so would just give the other side an advantage. Maybe Samuel Huntington was somewhat right after all.

I mean acknowledging the mistakes we've made. It's not like we haven't made any.

And we could do a lot more for the Palestinians.
 
Wasn't there a rumour that ISIS is very afraid of female fighters because they won't go to heaven with 72 virgins if you get killed by a lady?

They had trouble fighting the PKK who exploited this very thing by deploying an all-female unit to flank them :lol:
 
I'm not fond of Iran's theocratic regime, but I like the cut of Rouhani's jib. Certainly more of a Khatami than an Ahmedinejad.

You seem to have a soft spot for Hizballah and the revolutionary guards though. Not one's typical favourite secular lot.
 
Wasn't there a rumour that ISIS is very afraid of female fighters because they won't go to heaven with 72 virgins if you get killed by a lady?
That is not true. Being martyred by a woman doesn't affect the fact that you'll be going to heaven. That is, of course, if the conditions of martyrdom are matched. According to ISIS, they do fit the criteria so it doesn't really matter who kills them on the battlefield.
 
They had trouble fighting the PKK who exploited this very thing by deploying an all-female unit to flank them :lol:
That is not true. Being martyred by a woman doesn't affect the fact that you'll be going to heaven. That is, of course, if the conditions of martyrdom are matched. According to ISIS, they do fit the criteria so it doesn't really matter who kills them on the battlefield.

Now which one is it lads?
 
Whilst those who lead ISIS may just be murderous thugs, those they radicalise may not be. They use past injustices to brainwash which is why the West needs to compromise to an extent by admitting their part in a questionable history.

Would the troubles in the North of Ireland have been lessened if the British Government hadn't allowed blatant discrimination such as gerry-mandering? The IRA leadership were able to use those type of injustices to strengthen their argument, and recruit.

I'm not suggesting that it would come close to solving the problem in the Middle East, but would surely be a step in the right direction to hold our hands up and admit our mistakes - and to be seen to be attempting to rectify them?
 
So now we're being told that it will take years to defeat ISIS - in the same way we were told 'the war on terrorism could take ten years'. That was thirteen years ago, and we're in a worst situation than we were before.

Violence is like a painkiller. It might solve the problem temporarily but that's all.
 
So now we're being told that it will take years to defeat ISIS - in the same way we were told 'the war on terrorism could take ten years'. That was thirteen years ago, and we're in a worst situation than we were before.

Violence is like a painkiller. It might solve the problem temporarily but that's all.

The worry is that ISIS may need to be completely destroyed so it can never come back. This is a ideology we are fighting more than a certain type of person so therefore you can't just be kick ISIS out of Iraq and suspect it won't come back again.You really have show that this way of thinking is absolutely useless of those's that think it and for the community that let's this way of thinking spread.

There's a argument that say's when Europe and the US were bombing Nazi Germany(Also used for the War in Japan as well)that it was right that they even bombed City's and parts of Germany that never supported Third Reich.As the ideology of Nazism and Fascism had to be shown to have utterly failed Germany and it's people(Not an idea I agree with.).

ISIS is looking like an ideology that just like Nazism may need to be total destroyed(Although I understand it's very easy bordering on embarrassing for me to say as I live a very comfortable life, thousands thousands of miles away from the problem)
 
The worry is that ISIS may need to be completely destroyed so it can never come back. This is a ideology we are fighting more than a certain type of person so therefore you can't just be kick ISIS out of Iraq and suspect it won't come back again.You really have show that this way of thinking is absolutely useless of those's that think it and for the community that let's this way of thinking spread.

There's a argument that say's when Europe and the US were bombing Nazi Germany(Also used for the War in Japan as well)that it was right that they even bombed City's and parts of Germany that never supported Third Reich.As the ideology of Nazism and Fascism had to be shown to have utterly failed Germany and it's people(Not an idea I agree with.).

ISIS is looking like an ideology that just like Nazism may need to be total destroyed(Although I understand it's very easy bordering on embarrassing for me to say as I live a very comfortable life, thousands thousands of miles away from the problem)

Surely the more fundamental issue is who is funding ISIS (or Al Qaeda or whatever is the latest manifestation of extremist salafism). And that raises some very awkward questions in terms of our "friends" in the Gulf, as well as being a very obvious difference with the fight against Nazi Germany or even the Cold War - in fact a more accurate historical comparison would be fighting communist guerrillas in Angola or Nicaragua while being on great terms (and selling weapons to) the Soviet Union.
 
BBC Parliament channel broadcasting the debate right now.
 
Surely the more fundamental issue is who is funding ISIS (or Al Qaeda or whatever is the latest manifestation of extremist salafism). And that raises some very awkward questions in terms of our "friends" in the Gulf, as well as being a very obvious difference with the fight against Nazi Germany or even the Cold War - in fact a more accurate historical comparison would be fighting communist guerrillas in Angola or Nicaragua while being on great terms (and selling weapons to) the Soviet Union.

I was mainly using using Nazi Germany as an example of an ideology that was in no way compatible with democracy(The same away the ideology of ISIS or Al Qaeda is). Obviously it's a different sort of fight but it's still a fight against an 'enemy' that stands against everything we(anyone in a democracy)believe's in.

And although ISIS don't hold the power that Nazi Germany did to the world, ISIS do however pose similar questions.

I agree though that as soon as we scratch the surface of were ISIS get's it's money from then as you said it's going to be very awkward.
 
I like how the main speaker guy is saying "Kurdish vs ISIL".
 
British parliament agree to military action by 481 votes.
 
:lol: That is surreal. I half expected them to start chanting "I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!"

Some A-10s would be pretty nice in that situation though. Could wipe out ISIS quickly.