ISIS in Iraq and Syria
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Leaders of the free world Bush, Blair and Rumsfeld mentioned their faith, and how they were influenced by their Christian faith to do Gods work.
As an atheist, I'd just like to lodge my dislike of Dawkins. He really is an odious bloke.
What ISIS believe/do is not belief, but deviance.
My point was that I'm sure the Quran doesn't preach violence and killing. I don't think you need to read it thoroughly to figure that out. Don't get so uppity about it.I am pretty sure that the Islamic State and its adherents know the Quran better than you do. And I am pretty sure they are closer to the Quran and its teachings than many other Muslims are.
You say you haven't read the Quran, then come in here and claim ISIS are far off. Seriously dude, what the feck is that kind of logic?
I find it funny how a non-Muslim comes in and tells us how far off these devout Muslims are from the teachings they believe so fervently in.
Kinda funny and sad at the same time.
Because I have good friends who are devout muslims who don't think I should be killed by medieval methods.
By the responses in this thread you'd figure some people actually condone what ISIS is doing.
The bad make headlines! The compassionate teachings of the Qur'an are lost to the ordinary, non-Muslim observer or those involved in agendas. Qur'an talks about One God and one human family. There are around 200 verses in the Quran teaching it's readers to be compassionate, charity, love and show kindness.
But they don't talk about it on CNN or BBC or other media outlets, I don't believe it. I heard from friends etc that Islam is a religion of terror, don't need to read or research, I blame everything on Quran.
Conflicts these days are just as much fought on the battlefield and the minds of the people through the medium propaganda. The good/bad guy are both often guilty of misleading people with distortions, exaggerations, lies and fabrications in order to receive support and legitimacy.
Nothing new about that to be fair Sultan, that's always been the way.
Airstrikes inside Syria a distinct possibility.
I'm generally shocked how many posters just take on board what they're fed by their government, and media, getting themselves entrenched on one side. The reality is generally very different.
Reading a few reports US might be inadvertently helping out Assad?
Well, it's certainly better than "inadvertently" helping ISIS, isn't it?
Not sure about that. Obama would look silly if he did after accusing him of using WMDs against his own population just a year ago. What the US may do is unilaterally strike at ISIS positions, which would basically also be helping Assad out a bit.
Let's not kid ourselves, ISIS are apart of this FSA coalition of militants.
Highly doubt there are any FSA types in the Raqqa area, where ISIS are based.
That's a year old. Surely ISIS wouldn't tolerate them in their area since they established their "Caliphate".
You're digging in your heels about something you know nothing about. Why?
It does preach violence and killing and ISIS, Al Qaeda and all the other fanatics are using Quranic texts / verses and the Hadiths to support their actions with. They slap the verses they base their actions upon in our faces and then you come and tell us there are no such verses in the Quran. What the actual feck man.
How can you say "I haven't read the Quran" (let's be clear: with I, I mean: You) and then say the Quran doesn't preach violence and killing without knowing one iota what the Quran actually says. I'm not uppity about anything, but nonsensical ignorance like you show does make me upset. Don't confuse knowledge with arrogance. That's just pathetic.
You cannot join a discussion when you know jack shit about what you are talking about mate.
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Watch the vice documentary on the Islamic State, many FSA types have simply been assimilated into their ideology.
They wouldn't be FSA anymore at that point would they. I'm referring to whatever is left of the FSA.
There's very little left of 'moderate FSA' elements. They essentially make up a minority of the Syrian insurgency, if they didn't you wouldn't have Western powers feeling anxious enough to bomb them inside Syria.
Ever visited the Vidal, Di Maria, or Twitter threads ?
According to Al Jazeera, 1500 Iranian troops assisted Peshmerga in the clashes in Jalawla. Iraqi Air Force have also been thumping ISIS there, forcing them back.
I don't think I have posted in the Vidal thread, no. Maybe the Di Maria thread. Anyway, what is the relation of them threads with this thread about religion?
The fact that people join discussions without knowing Jack shit, as you put it.
Reports of ISIS posters in Ferguson... Wut.
Reports of ISIS posters in Ferguson... Wut.
That's crazy
A captured ISIS commander getting slapped around by Iraqi soldiers 
What do they do with these captured soldiers? Are they placed in prisons in Iraq or are they just dealt with in the same way ISIS deals with the Iraq Army?
They're probably either executed or sent to holding areas where they live in terribly squalid conditions.
They're mostly executed these days.
It used to be that they'd send them to prison, but considering that a lot of prisons have been emptied by advancing ISIS soldiers resulting in thousands of terrorists running free, they rarely take that risk anymore.
What they wouldn't do with them is behead them and still their heads on pikes.
It used to be that they'd send them to prison, but considering that a lot of prisons have been emptied by advancing ISIS soldiers resulting in thousands of terrorists running free, they rarely take that risk anymore.
What they wouldn't do with them is behead them and still their heads on pikes.
Don't know what I want to be done to them. While executing a war prisoner doesn't seem to be right thing to do morally,you wouldn't want to take the risk of holding them all in one place and ISIS attacking that prison to free them.. Some things are best left unanswered.
I generally oppose the death penalty, but in this case I find myself OK with it. These men are brainwashed beyond rehabilitation so imprisonment is futile, and again the risk of them being freed by advancing ISIS armies is too much to bear - especially considering there's precedence to this. Move in, take em out, clean up...on to the next batch.
I think you'll find that morality gets chucked out the window during war.
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