ISIS in Iraq and Syria

This story about the little girls has actually made me close to being sick, proper heartbreaking stuff.
 
It's hilarious to see how transparent it's become.

They realise they're losing the fight with the fighters they've been funding so they're shifting the narrative the MSM sends out to people to make it seem less damaging when Assad eventually wins.

When will we learn to stop fighting proxy wars and arming people that hate us anyway in an attempt to overthrow a government we don't like?
 
HuT is a pan-Islamic organization obsessed with restoring the caliphate by 'peaceful means'. Defending al Qaeda and calling for the caliphate is what they do.
of course I "know very well" that they all represent the jihadi trend
Then I'm not sure we have any disagreement worth arguing about.


This is beyond sick. Where are all the people who pretend to be "defending the children in Syria"? Why doesn't this girl have 200K followers on twitter? Sigh.

How original.
Of course there is nothing original about what he said. The US have been helping and arming terrorists to win political battles for decades. Reminding you about it over and over is not the real problem here though, Raoul.

This from CBS...


... after years of propaganda, lies, and "fake news". Feck this sh*t. Now you're telling the people this...
 
I just watched it. It's up there with some of their worst videos.

I'm generally not squeamish, although I'll have to make an exception for this. Something about seeing a soldier cry for his mother while he awaits an incomprehensibly torturous death just won't do anything for me, especially not understand how this madness in Turkey can continue like this.
 
I'm generally not squeamish, although I'll have to make an exception for this. Something about seeing a soldier cry for his mother while he awaits an incomprehensibly torturous death just won't do anything for me, especially not understand how this madness in Turkey can continue like this.

I read that the Turkish government have shut down all social media to stop this video being shown there. I'm not surprised, this video is enough to move the Turkish people towards demanding a full-scale military intervention against ISIS, it's that bad. I mean, it's enough to make a random stranger want to join to Turkish army in the hope of getting revenge, I can't imagine what Turks will be ready to do if enough of them see this.
 
I read that the Turkish government have shut down all social media to stop this video being shown there. I'm not surprised, this video is enough to move the Turkish people towards demanding a full-scale military intervention against ISIS, it's that bad. I mean, it's enough to make a random stranger want to join to Turkish army in the hope of getting revenge, I can't imagine what Turks will be ready to do if enough of them see this.

Yep, they're scared, and shutting down social media has become the standard response when they're fearful. Not only his his dream of amending the constitution to hand himself the power going up in smoke, it could get even worse. The soldiers were supposedly members of the MHP, and not only does he need their votes in a referendum, they're nationalists who will get their hands dirty like many liberal CHP Turks won't. He's become so accustomed to putting his hand on the coffins of dead Turks while he addresses the crowd like a mafia boss, but that won't fly this time. Turkey deserves better than a 'leader' who cavorts with murderers and then sends young Turkish men to die at their hands for no reason other than his maniacal pursuit of outright power.
 
Who burned Turkish soldiers? ISIS?

Yep. Here's the picture from the video that's been floating around on the net. Not graphic itself, but it tells you everything you need to know.

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Yep. Here's the picture from the video that's been floating around on the net. Not graphic itself, but it tells you everything you need to know.

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I just watched a recently made video circulating among Palestinian supporters on attrocities committed by IOF and illegal Israeli settlers. It begins with an account of a Palestinian family having been firebombed while asleep in their home by a bunch of illegal settlers. Some members of the family managed to get outside. The settlers then poured kerosene over them. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was where the idea came from.
 
I just watched a recently made video circulating among Palestinian supporters on attrocities committed by IOF and illegal Israeli settlers. It begins with an account of a Palestinian family having been firebombed while asleep in their home by a bunch of illegal settlers. Some members of the family managed to get outside. The settlers then poured kerosene over them. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was where the idea came from.

Are you talking about the Duma attack? ISIS had already burned the Jordanian soldier before that happened.

ISIS claim these burnings are a like-for-like response to the effect of airstrikes - they make this clear in their videos and they claim it is legitimized by the shari'a and the example of Muhammad. Nothing to do with what happened in Duma.
 
Are you talking about the Duma attack? ISIS had already burned the Jordanian soldier before that happened.

ISIS claim these burnings are a like-for-like response to the effect of airstrikes - they make this clear in their videos and they claim it is legitimized by the shari'a and the example of Muhammad. Nothing to do with what happened in Duma.
Oh. Where does it stop? Was going to ask about "example of Muhammad" but you know what? feck it.
 

To tell you the true US always fecked up in the Middle East, the president knows what the corporations want him to know, and if you read my posts you should know I don't like Obama and I believe on this case he has men around him he trusts who are looking for the next job after January 20th. Bush was the same they had solid info that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and after the invasion the weapons never showed up. I'm with trump on this about the swamp now let see if he really does that.
 
To tell you the true US always fecked up in the Middle East, the president knows what the corporations want him to know, and if you read my posts you should know I don't like Obama and I believe on this case he has men around him he trusts who are looking for the next job after January 20th. Bush was the same they had solid info that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and after the invasion the weapons never showed up. I'm with trump on this about the swamp now let see if he really does that.

Trump has only deepened the swamp by filling it with neocons who are probably more pro intervention than their counterparts. You should have realised by now he's full of shit.
 
Trump has only deepened the swamp by filling it with neocons who are probably more pro intervention than their counterparts. You should have realised by now he's full of shit.
He's not the president yet so we need to let him govern to see what he does, all this doomsday because he won is stupid and in a few years people may be surprised. I really don't know is foreign policy but I can tell you right now is a disaster with Obama and if Bush started a war he shouldn't then Obama let ISIS raise in Iraq and Syria, Libya turned in a lawless state ran by terrorists. The refugee issue for example was caused by US policy and nobody says anything about it, I do have a word for US policy in the middle east - STAY AWAY we always feck up (L3, Lockheed Martin and Boeing saying stay, stay, stay)
 
He's not the president yet so we need to let him govern to see what he does, all this doomsday because he won is stupid and in a few years people may be surprised. I really don't know is foreign policy but I can tell you right now is a disaster with Obama and if Bush started a war he shouldn't then Obama let ISIS raise in Iraq and Syria, Libya turned in a lawless state ran by terrorists. The refugee issue for example was caused by US policy and nobody says anything about it, I do have a word for US policy in the middle east - STAY AWAY we always feck up (L3, Lockheed Martin and Boeing saying stay, stay, stay)
I'm all for the US staying the feck out of the Middle East but I don't see it happening. I'll wait before I judge Trump but so far his appointments haven't exactly been inspiring and he's been extremely provocative (wanting to move Israeli embassy to Jerusalem).
 
I'm all for the US staying the feck out of the Middle East but I don't see it happening. I'll wait before I judge Trump but so far his appointments haven't exactly been inspiring and he's been extremely provocative (wanting to move Israeli embassy to Jerusalem).

If Trump's policy goes according to plan, you won't have less interventionism, it will simply by bilateral in nature, where the US and Russia are tag teaming to "fight ISIS".
 
These photos will be all over the web.

That's perfectly fine, but they won't be here. Otherwise this thread will turn into a pissing contest of who can post the more gratuitous pics. We can have a discussion without devolving into something like that.
 
That's perfectly fine, but they won't be here. Otherwise this thread will turn into a pissing contest of who can post the more gratuitous pics. We can have a discussion without devolving into something like that.
Agreed. It is relevant though in the midst of UN calls for people (by which they mean Assad) to be held to account for attrocities.
 
Agreed. It is relevant though in the midst of UN calls for people (by which they mean Assad) to be held to account for attrocities.
Were these the photos of the 100 Syrian prisoners which Al-Nusra and co executed the day before they were evacuated from the last district in East Aleppo?
 
I just checked that news on a website. Some of the comments underneath truly make me despair about humanity.
The terminators can't come quick enough.
 
Former UK ambassador to Syria accuses Foreign Office of lying about the country's civil war.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-aleppo-evacuation-russia-putin-a7491976.html

The ex-British Ambassador to Syria has accused the Foreign Office of lying over the country’s civil war and said British policy there has "made the situation worse". Peter Ford said the Whitehall department led by Boris Johnson and Philip Hammond before him had "gotten Syria wrong every step of the way", and was now falsely claiming Bashar Assad could not control the country when he is "well on the way to doing so".