Midfield isnt good enough. Spain and Germany are the main contenders imo. After them France, Brazil and Argentina.
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Midfield isnt good enough. Spain and Germany are the main contenders imo. After them France, Brazil and Argentina.
Fact is he should be getting more out of his talent but isn't cause of that. If he did, he'd be a genuine superstar. He's obviously improved in that aspect but he has some way to go yet. My point is if he had De Bruyne passing and decision making fused with his level of technical ability, he'd be something really special, something close to Zidane.
Brazil are the most in form national team at the moment, and their midfield copes just fine because of all the help they get from everyone else in the team. When they play with Coutinho in the midfield 3 those weaknesses are basically non existent.
Oh, i agree with that
Doesn't say much. They were in great form before 2014 too. They play with a midfield of Paulinho, Casemiro and Renato Augusto. They will be chasing the ball all game against teams like Spain and Germany.
Possibly... Though with neymar jesus and couthino they might be a lot more effective at scoring when they do get the opportunity
They don't need to have the ball, they can win just by sitting deep and killing Spain at the counter for example.
I won't get too excited around Spain winning the world cup until I believe we have a striker that wins games, with all the fancy passes, tiki-taka and ball control, at the end of the day it was Torres and mostly Villa saving our asses with cluth goals in 08' and 10' for example.
They've won 9 games in a row with a 26 goals scored and 2 conceded. They haven't been in form like that in eons. They aren't a team that will ever have to chase the ball around all game cause all the other players are good on the ball.
Even though, our midfield has played good under Tite. It still is the weakest part of the team. I could see the midfield struggling offensively versus a team like Spain. Our advantage would be pace on the counter and direct play. Would definitely like to see the CBF schedule a friendly.
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Disco Isco is gonna be the new summer 2018 hit 
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I'd just basically play without a midfield if you were up against Spain. Your centerbacks have played together for years at PSG and your wingbacks can attack, so why not:
Neymar----------Firmino---------Jesus
-----------Casemiro-Paulinho------------
Marcelo--Marquinhos-Luiz-Silva--Alves
and just try to get at them on the counter. Could also play Coutinho in your front 3 of course.
I think a midfield of Paulinho, Caseimiro and Coutinho(like the last 30mins of the Ecuador match) is more than good enough on the ball to handle pressure especially if its surrounded by defenders who can handle the ball.
How much do you guys regret letting Thiago play for Spain, and Jorginho play for Italy?
Either one of those players instead of Paulinho as CM and Brazil's midfield suddenly becomes world class (Casemiro - Thiago/Jorginho - Coutinho).
The CBF has to do a better job of monitoring these players. Thiago is exactly what we could used to complete the midfield. The Thiago thing happened because the CBF and his dad had beef. I think we can still tap up Jorginho similar to how Spain got Costa since I believe friendlies don't cap tie you anymore but I don't see it happening.
Good thing is Tite has mention we wants to experiment with Coutinho more in midfield.
Stealing Jorginho from Italy could be a stroke of genius. Someone needs to inform Tite.
Well technically it's not even stealing since Jorginho is Brazilian, it's merely taking him back.
They will with that midfield against Spain or Germany. A midfield with the likes of Busquets, Iniesta, Silva and Isco will dominate them quite easily. Like Spain did recently against France and Italy and perhaps will do against everybody.
Brazils statistics are impressive, but I dont think they have faced any strong midfields. So my point still stands, after Spain and Germany they are the strongest with France. Imo players that are good on the ball is fine, but on the highest level you need more or a lot of luck like Portugal perhaps. I think Barcelona, Real Madrid, Spain and Germany have proved with their succes that a midfield with high creativity, awareness, technique and intelligence is the recept hardest to beat.
If you had a chance to kidnap one of Isco and Asensio and bring them to United, who would you take?
Remember the match vs Spain and Brazil in 2013? that's how a match between the two nations would look now.
I doubt it. It will be more like the 7-1 game against Germany imo. The spanish will dominate posession heavily. Forcing the fullbacks and wingers to stay back, but they will most likely lack the discipline as they did against Germany, leaving huge gaps and conceding easily.
Isco, he's hitting prime years.
Fun fact: Brazil had more possession than Germany in that game.
Germany killed Brazil on the counter through direct football.
You really need to start watching Brazil before commenting on them.
In our team Asensio.
In the first half too? Were it was already 5-0. You could maybe say 1 or 2 goals were on the counter, the others were not.
I watched them. They just don't seem better to me than Spain and Germany.
Argentina ?
On paper, yeah sure. Pretty decent squad overall and having Messi doesn't hurt but they are struggling to qualify to the WC let alone being rated as contenders. Average coach, average team mindset overall is their main issues and the way I see it, they won't fix that anytime soon.
Agree with the rest tho
No, please! He is so important for us, even if he isn't called up
Sampaoli is not an average coach, he's proved himself with an inferior team to Argentina overall (Chile). He needs time though to undo the damange that Bauza left behind.
No, please! He is so important for us, even if he isn't called up
I remember his agent contacted the general coordinator of the national team when Dunga was in charge and they said we are monitoring him which was 2 years ago. I doubt anyone in the CBF is paying attention to him right now especially since he declared for Italy.
The problem is that Ventura doesn't consider him because he is obsessed with his 4-2-4 formation
Let's rename the thread guys.
Disco Isco?
Jaime Rojoknapp
Thread called "Isco". People discussing whether or not Brazil will get bested by German/Spanish midfield. *shakes head*
It's a pity but Isco is not sure to be in the R.Madrid's first eleven.
I hope Zizou understands Isco is much better for the team than Bale.
I hope Zizou understands Isco is much better for the team than Bale.
Even when Bale was fit after his injury, Zidane still picked Isco. I mean last season.
Reckon he'll be forced to pick him, the fans love him too much.
Yeah, plus Bale doesn't seem to get along well with his other teammates.
When did that happen?
I think it will be the case this season, but until Bale re-injured himself in the clasico and the team kept on being better for it, the BBC was still very much untouchable by presidential decree. The only reason i think it's not anymore is because of what we just won and how...
Didn't Isco play many games at the end of last season?When did that happen?
I think it will be the case this season, but until Bale re-injured himself in the clasico and the team kept on being better for it, the BBC was still very much untouchable by presidential decree. The only reason i think it's not anymore is because of what we just won and how...