You cannot judge a player on stats.
Similar stats right? One is having one of his worst seasons while the other is apparently proving his haters wrong
Guess who the other guy is?
It's me Kaku
Is Sterling the best english player at the moment?
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Most City fans appreciate how good a player he is but there's no doubt that he does frustrate particularly in one on one situations when it seems easier to score.
There are some who want rid but they're mostly the arrogant newbies who've recently latched on to the club.
There are some who want rid but they're mostly the arrogant newbies who've recently latched on to the club.
And you can by recency bias?
Fair. Raheem is incredibly frustrating but his movement is world class. His football brain is second to none. If you gave him someone like Sancho's tekkers or even Rashfords ability to strike a ball he'd put up Salah like numbers. He struggles with the most basic thing (kicking a ball). His weight of pass is shocking and his finishing is poor. But his positioning, dribbling, brain and knowing what to do at what time is top, top level. He's also kinda nerfed at City because defenses play so deep his pace is nullified.
Great to see him back and in form the last 6 weeks.
Yeah... don't get carried away.
Nope.
Wanna tell me players who consistently makes the right runs and gets in the right positions more often who play on the wing? Because there are very few, who play on either flank. Sterling doesn't have the gift that players like Messi or the physique of some of the bigger stronger wingers like Bale, he makes up for it with good movement, great positioning and a brilliant understanding of the game. But hit me with 5 wingers who follow the game and read it better than him if you like.
Oh so now is "who play on either flank". Well I don't know, Messi? Ronaldo?
Well positions are relative when discussing these things. Ronaldo has been a no.9 for the last 10 years. Messi is obviously a cert. So thats one, even counting Ronnie thats 2. A football brain for a top CB and CF are going to be very different aren't they?
Sterling has been the best English player for a while now. His performance and importance during the euros all but secured it for me.
It seems you answered your own question.
So you do get it? Good lad!
His greatest quality is his movement, he misses a lot but he keeps finding himself at the right place. He's very good in urgent situations but when he has to think about what to do, he messes up almost every time and that's what makes him a very frustrating player to watch.
Fantastic player. Not "world class"
I agree with most of what you're saying, I was just taunting you because "best football brain" is a pretty bold title when players like Messi, Ronaldo, KdB, Kroos etc. exist. He's a smart player though and he was able to absord Pep's gameplan almost perfectly.
he's surely a City legend, right? I mean:
Not sure you get rid of legends at his age.
Yup. Commission the statue.
Hasn't he been there longer than most of the players on that list!
I will always class him as top draw.
Yes you can and
they aren't " getting rid".
Sterling signed in 2015 - 25.081minutes played
Aguero signed in 2011 - barely played in his last season at city - total minutes played for city 27.816
Mahrez signed in 2018 12.000 minutes played
De Bruyne signed in 2015 same year as Sterling - 23.245 minutes played
Jesus was signed in 2017 and has played 10000 minutes(111 games) less than Sterling
What other examples can you give. How did they not get rid?
Beating Portugal in a game of football. Not something we do often 
Beating Portugal in a game of football. Not something we do often
So excited about it you couldn't even make it to the proper thread.
How the feck am I even in this thread, Ive never read it
He will be remembered very fondly, I think him leaving at what seems to be the perfect time will add to that
Will get slaughtered, he was really decisive in the EUros with his goals. I think he has improved as a player intelligence and movement and positioning wise........
But, I still dont think he as actually even very good at the Euros performance wise bar the obviously important decisive moments. Think he had two really good games, but especially early on in the tournament he was frustrating the hell out of me, running down blind alley, running at players when he should have played a simply pass, running at players when there was a really progressive pass on.
Best player for England....no over the last couple of years for ENgland internationally, Pickford, Walker, Kane are all ahead of him and from the title of best English player....not there are a few more I would add.
I thought he was brilliant at Liverpool and in his early England days thought he may go on to become a world star player, had a very good career but I still dont think he is really world class, telling none of the huge clubs outside of ENgland seemed to move for him
But, I still dont think he as actually even very good at the Euros performance wise bar the obviously important decisive moments. Think he had two really good games, but especially early on in the tournament he was frustrating the hell out of me, running down blind alley, running at players when he should have played a simply pass, running at players when there was a really progressive pass on.
Best player for England....no over the last couple of years for ENgland internationally, Pickford, Walker, Kane are all ahead of him and from the title of best English player....not there are a few more I would add.
I thought he was brilliant at Liverpool and in his early England days thought he may go on to become a world star player, had a very good career but I still dont think he is really world class, telling none of the huge clubs outside of ENgland seemed to move for him
David Beckham at Manchester.Roberto Baggio at Juventus are two mega examples. The right circumtances can make it happen
Manchester City under Pep have one policy. If you are unhappy you can leave. No matter who you are. They are confident they can replace you. They would have loved to keep sterling but he just wasn't happy.
I do wonder if he will EVER get the respect he deserves. I remember when he chose to leave Liverpool how most pundits said he'd killed his career, a number said Jordan Ibe, also coming through at the time would 'far surpass him", and he'd struggle to make it at City. Then after a first season of settling there then took offl and even after all these years of service his level is still questioned. Its baffling.
Best English winger since Stanley Matthews?
Juventus definitely got rid of Baggio.
The only other contender is John Barnes and he played a lot as midfielder as well. Of course England usually didn't play with wingers but it's incredible that Sterling is top 3 English wingers all time.
You can't be serious. I'm not a huge fan of Sterling but there's no way you can say those 2 have been better or have contributed more to the English NT than Sterling.
Barnes, Beckham, Hoddle, Keegan, Ball, Beardsley, McManaman are the only other top wingers for England really. Keegan also players as a CAM and a striker but that's the same for Sterling.
I would have Barnes, Becks, Hoddle and Keegan above Sterling and though.