I would argue Antony lack of flair is what ire people. They wanted an old school tricky flairy Brazilian as opposed to a Welbeck.
Is RedCafe too harsh on flair players?
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As others have said: Antony has flair? He’s less imaginative that AWB in the final third and on a par with Valencia’s final awful seasons.
Flair is the ability to pull off the unexpected. Being able to dribble isn't flair. It's dribbling. Ronaldo can still dribble, yet he can still pull off the unexpected with his tricks. Therefore he has not changed as a footballer, it's just the manager's tactics which have changed.
https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/185890-what-does-flair-mean-exactly/
So yes. Antony has flair. Bruno has flair.
https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/185890-what-does-flair-mean-exactly/
So yes. Antony has flair. Bruno has flair.
I would love to see some flair from Antony. Caf loves Garnacho who arguably has as much flair, so this point becomes quite invalid. At the end of the flair, there needs to be some constant threat to the opposition. If you’re dancing around in front of the defense and then passing the ball backwards then what’s the point?
Yeah but you don't expect him to jiggle about a bit before passing backwards do you that's the important bit
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The Bruno one is the most insane. Just from people who don't understand that taking risks means losing the ball. Bruno will get an assist in the game and they will say 'but he gave the ball away a bunch of times'... Well without those risks he wouldn't have got the assist and on many occasions the team would create nothing. These are games we win too. A real misunderstanding of what creative players too. They are watching YouTube videos of foreign league players and there are no mistakes in the videos and they are confusing a real match with a compilation
Nani has already been mentioned, he's a good example. Even in his best seasons he was getting insane criticism. Berba missing the squad made the headlines, but Nani didn't make the starting XI of the CL final in his POTY season. His replacement didn't exactly do well (and hadn't done well in the game vs Arsenal before the final).
Long-term, completely dropping Nani for Valencia on the right and then Young on the left, was bad for the team. The zombie passing threads were very active around that time...
Of course they didn't criticise that, it worked. When you try things like that, many times they don't come off. In a recent thread about him, posts are roughly 80% negative, because people don't like his style.
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But I don't think there is something against flair players as a whole. I think the majority here likes Bruno and Garnacho. Some flair players get on the wrong side of fans (I don't know why since I don't go to games), and never recover their reputation.
Long-term, completely dropping Nani for Valencia on the right and then Young on the left, was bad for the team. The zombie passing threads were very active around that time...
Of course they didn't criticise that, it worked. When you try things like that, many times they don't come off. In a recent thread about him, posts are roughly 80% negative, because people don't like his style.
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But I don't think there is something against flair players as a whole. I think the majority here likes Bruno and Garnacho. Some flair players get on the wrong side of fans (I don't know why since I don't go to games), and never recover their reputation.
I don't know about flair players. I do think the of the criticism is over the top. For instance, we drew at Crystal Palace due to a free kick that Olise will probably never hit again in his life which results in 1 draw and 8 wins in the past 9 matches. Yes, have standards but for ANY team, 8 wins and 1 draw in the previous 9 matches is a great run.
The match reaction thread was full of vitriol like this team just sacrificed their mothers at the alter of Baal.
The match reaction thread was full of vitriol like this team just sacrificed their mothers at the alter of Baal.
Its not amplified. McTom Fred Maguire AWB are out most abused. Our praise of players gets amplified when a player has flair
New thread idea:
"Are Redcafe flair fans too sensitive to criticism?"
"Are Redcafe flair fans too sensitive to criticism?"
I think we are too harsh on new, young players. Dalot was a non player for many in spite of his obvious talent and Antony just has a few months here. At the same time we have wild expectations and patience with academy players that are yet to kick a ball for us or the PL: Garner and Laird come to mind. Also when we sold Welbeck there were a lot of people talking like we lost our identity, as if we sold Scholes or something.
Nani being dropped for the 2011 CL final was quite a mistake on SAF part. I get that the idea was for us to be more direct and utilize Valencia's pace and quicker use of the ball on the counter but I think we should've atleast tried to go more toe-to-toe with Barca on the technical side.
I mean, we did oddly enough score the most Barca-esq goal of the night when the ball was used by our more effective technically gifted dribblers, for me.
And I loved Valencia but for that game I would've liked to have seen us atleast try to adapt to that style.
I guess we would've lost anyway though.
I mean, we did oddly enough score the most Barca-esq goal of the night when the ball was used by our more effective technically gifted dribblers, for me.
And I loved Valencia but for that game I would've liked to have seen us atleast try to adapt to that style.
I guess we would've lost anyway though.
Aye the pile on on Antony has been a joke. The guys still adjusting to the league, we haven’t seen the best of him yet. I’m sure once he becomes more comfortable and confident we’ll start to see him take players on consistently. Yet despite all that and only being at the club just over half a season he’s currently our joint 2nd top goal scorer. Not bad for a one footed Bebe as some would have you believe on here.