Taribo's Gap
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Pep might be the GOAT in raising the floor of his teams, which leads to amazing consistency and an amount of league wins that is really unparalleled.
But he lacks a lot in raising the heights of his teams, which Klopp or Mou truly proved to be able to during unexpected CL runs, while Pep more often than not failed against some game raising minnow.
Pep has definitely had his blunders, especially in the Champions League, but to say that he lacks a lot in raising the heights of his teams is a bit curious given that the has created or managed historically great teams. It is one thing to go from mid table or unremarkable team to a winning team, it is another thing altogether to go from a good or title winning team to a historically great dynastic team. Pep's Barca is in the conversation for greatest team ever and his City are in the conversation for greatest premier league team ever. How much higher should he be raising the ceiling?
It seems like when people make claims that other managers could do what Pep did they are merely talking about creating winning teams rather than creating historically great teams. Carlo's Milan were absolutely stacked, for example, but no one is ever mentioning them in greatest ever discussions. You can argue all day about the relative difficulty of going from a middling team to a title winning team versus going from a winning team to a historically great team, but that little extra bit that Pep achieves is tremendously difficult to achieve and should not be conflated with merely "winning", because it is a different level of accomplishment.