If you are going to use Lingard, PL player, you might should just use Martial and others. There are lot of players out there good quality one that had poor patch form.
Is Jadon Sancho really worth the 100 plus million fee?
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I mean I would still like to have him at United and 2- 3 months of bad form doesn’t change that. Greenwood is also struggling after a great last season. However one came from our academy and the other was only attainable for 108 mil £ which is just laughable.
If we can somehow still get him for 70-80 mil (and even that would be high) then great, but anything above that would be daylight robbery.
If we can somehow still get him for 70-80 mil (and even that would be high) then great, but anything above that would be daylight robbery.
60 million is about right, maybe 70. I rate Sancho slightly above Pulisic who I think was sold for 60 mil.
I honestly wonder what is going through the head of Michael Zorc in regards to Sancho.
They continue to lose revenue during the pandemic with no sign of it coming to an end anytime soon.
This coupled with Jadons and Dortmund's terrible form will only increase the pressure on Zorc to find a deal and sell him. If rumors are to be believed (insert a pinch of salt) Jadon wants to move home and was disappointed a deal to bring him to Old Trafford didn't materialise.
Could we move for him in the summer? What would be an acceptable price for both teams? £50, £60, £70 million?
I'm sure we'll ignite our interest in the coming months.
They continue to lose revenue during the pandemic with no sign of it coming to an end anytime soon.
This coupled with Jadons and Dortmund's terrible form will only increase the pressure on Zorc to find a deal and sell him. If rumors are to be believed (insert a pinch of salt) Jadon wants to move home and was disappointed a deal to bring him to Old Trafford didn't materialise.
Could we move for him in the summer? What would be an acceptable price for both teams? £50, £60, £70 million?
I'm sure we'll ignite our interest in the coming months.
Rashford is better than Sancho. If the latter is worth 100 million, Rashford should be at least 150 million.
In a word, no.
Sancho is not worth 100 million. Haaland is. We should wait and see how this season pans out. If Dortmund continue to struggle, I suspect they will cave.
If he wants to come here, make an agreement with the player and his people that he will run down his contract and join us in 2022.
For us this will be preferable both financially and with regards to other negotiations, for the player it will be good not having to live up to the expectations that come with a hundred million euro price tag.
Plus when Dortmund learn about such an arrangement maybe they will want to sell for 35 million or so next summer rather than having their asset walk away for free.
For us this will be preferable both financially and with regards to other negotiations, for the player it will be good not having to live up to the expectations that come with a hundred million euro price tag.
Plus when Dortmund learn about such an arrangement maybe they will want to sell for 35 million or so next summer rather than having their asset walk away for free.
Doesn't hide the fact that he has very poor season so far, no matter who you want to bring along with in discussion.
Look over 99% people think he doesn't worth the money Dortmund is asking for, and everyone thinks this season he has been very poor. You might be the odd here one who think otherwise.
Truth is, he has never prove himself outside BL. There are lots of outstanding top performers in BL who flopped big time in PL over the years, and he couldn't even perform in BL this season (while some of his teammate in Dortmund has been performing brilliantly). So lets not assume he is a guarantee world class player but just suffering from short dip of form. It could be the other way round.
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He carries on like this and his value drops to 60/70. Worth it at that point. Seems like a bit of a tosser TBH. Seems like United were being generous but realistic last summer. Dortmund have made the mistakes.
I have to admit I was one of the most insisting posters to claim we should definitely go for him, it may change but its looking like a dodge bullet at the moment. At least for the fee that was asked, I wouldnt even pay 80M for him at the moment. Bundesliga is a paradise for attacking players with teams playing with absurd high lines and giving acres of space.
60M would be a reasonable price for him at the moment wouldn't go beyond 70M for him.
60M would be a reasonable price for him at the moment wouldn't go beyond 70M for him.
Mata only barely worked at right wing in his prime and he is another player that just wants to cut inside all the time, that might work if our right back was capable of going forward.
I meant a right winger that is capable of getting to the byline as well as cutting inside and who is younger than mata ams therefore able to do a job defensively so they could be trusted in big games. Not exactly sure who i am describing but sure they must exist!
I agree he's a world class talent but the market just isn't there at the top end to pay those prices and Dortmund have felt the pinch more than most. His form has also impacted his value in the sense that he is not as desired as he would have been if he had the impact he had in the two prior seasons he had at Dortmund.
As it is, Dortmund have the nightmare scenario of an underperforming player who wants to leave and seemingly one club being in for him, just like us and Pogba. In both instances I think the player's wishes will be met and they'll be sold for less than the selling clubs wanted.
You can when the sample size is so small. He isnt a veteran here with so much credit in the bank. Its 2 great seasons against 1 disastrous season so far.
Overpriced or not, we've been lacking a good RW for half a decade now. Crazy how lopsided our attacks are and how we still haven't signed one is beyond me. Terribly run club.
This is a bit reductive given they play in different positions so a key part of sanchos job is also to get assists
Agree on the general point re sancho maybe being overpriced in the summer
My impression was that most people were so irritated by the saga because it was obvious bvb werent goong to sell him for what we were willing to pay and therefore we didnt move on to another target in time to complete a deal before the end of summer. The fact is there are other right wingers out there and its a position we desperately needed strengthening in. In the end we got two youth players who are unlikely to contribute much this season, one of whom couldnt even join in summer because the deal went through late. Compare this with liverpool who went after sarr realised they were asking for too much then bought jota before anyone was even aware that was a possibility
Seems some people on here are trying to credit ed for getting the sancho situation right when really he just made a massive shit show of signing a right winger
Yeah im not disagreeing. Mata is a bit part option at best. Lets see how Diallo does. Unless they decide to go back for Sancho then I dont see us bringing in just another squad option. We need a big player there
No, he is not worth that money.
The problem with the deal was people's egos trumping over business sense. Dortmund called us up early in the window with smug confidence and said "We know you want him, here is how this is going to work". You only do that when you hold all the cards and have no interest in maintaining a mutually respectful relationship for the future.
United, quite rightly, tried to find a solution to the impasse - probably taking into account the player's availability and willingness to join us. But one Dortmund's so called deadline wasn't met per their terms it simply became an exercise in ego flexing. I still believe we would have got him in the end had United caved to their demands even post the deadline but ultimately it is too much of a risk.
There is a reason why we aren't in a similar financial situation to them or Barca despite having no sugar daddy. We have 0 visibility on how future revenues are going to pan out and to fork out a fortune for an upcoming player who has no experience in the PL was to put all your eggs in one basket and to jeopardize the future of the club. This isn't a casino.
United, quite rightly, tried to find a solution to the impasse - probably taking into account the player's availability and willingness to join us. But one Dortmund's so called deadline wasn't met per their terms it simply became an exercise in ego flexing. I still believe we would have got him in the end had United caved to their demands even post the deadline but ultimately it is too much of a risk.
There is a reason why we aren't in a similar financial situation to them or Barca despite having no sugar daddy. We have 0 visibility on how future revenues are going to pan out and to fork out a fortune for an upcoming player who has no experience in the PL was to put all your eggs in one basket and to jeopardize the future of the club. This isn't a casino.
Why are we even thinking of buying Sancho when we need to strengthen our defence and our DM?
I said this in the summer, but aside from RW really not being the priority, personally I don’t think Sancho is a big enough upgrade to warrant splashing £100m. I don’t think he offers us much different to Rashford, Martial, or Greenwood. Then there’s the fact he’s by no means a guaranteed success, as we all know how those Dortmund players can be. It would’ve been a bad move.
Didn't help that someone in the club openly spoke about how we should be looking to take advantage of clubs in the covid window. Then their president goes on record saying there would be no corona discount.
I half agree. Certainly this season. It might be to do with his contract, but he hasn’t looked as good this season.
That being said, I would still take him at the right price to rotate with greenwood and Diallo.
Whatever you say about his poor goal and assist return, he would be lethal at starting counter attacks and occupying two players on the right hand side for us.
I think people in the club were far too invested in the deal, in particular the manager, the players and us the fans so publicly moving on wasn't an option for the CEO. He would have been slaughtered and would have lost the confidence and trust of his manager so he had to play along like he was trying but he never had the intention nor the authorization from the owners to pay up.
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The Sancho of last season would have been worth 100m to us. I hate to break the news, but RW is still a significant weakness in the squad. But no, I wouldn’t go anywhere north if 60m for him now.
Please god no
I doubt there has ever been a decent club not taking care of one of the positions like this for so long. This is beyond criminal.
This. If we can sign a top class CB we might actually challenge for the titel, or at least make us much stronger. I do not know who that might be (swap Pogba for Varane) but if Leicester's scouts can identify Fofana ours should not be worse.
I would pay 60m for Sancho but Leon Bailey is in better form. If we can spend 60m in January that should be earmarked for a top class CB.
Leicester got a lot of players on the cheap by us getting scammed. We got scammed with Maguire and they got two players for the sale.
What if the two youngsters we signed were our backup plan.
What if we didn't move on to other targets because we had no other targets
Neither option is unlikely.
This a thread about Sancho but since there’s a fair amount of discussion that a CB is a greater need than a RW, I’d just like to point out that a DM is a greater need than a CB.
I agree. A fast, dynamic, breaker of play, preferrably tall and good passer. But I still believe McT can fill that role with a bit more experience as he is already quite displined, just need more game time and more range of passing.
A pacy LCB is 2nd on the list for sure.
I never felt that we should offer 100 million for just one player. Hopefully Dortmund is willing to accept 60 mil for him and we can bring him in next 2 transfer window. One quality CB and DM, we would be challenging for the title and Champions League.
Well I would hope that’s not the case. Greenwood as promising as he is, is no winger. So it would mean we’ve still not signed a proper winger and pellestri and Diallo aren’t yet good enough to even displace a left footed striker at right wing.
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Don't know about any other club, but we will definitely pay 100m plus for him. We paid 80 m for Maguire, keep that in prospective.
Yeah the right wing is the giant glaring weakness in this side and it needs addressing sooner rather than later. Feck sake we’re still playing Mata there.
Not a teenager anymore, but I agree.
Unbelievable really. The day we sign a top class RW we will much more balanced and potent in attack/pressing. It will be a night and day difference IMO.
Hope not. General consensus is we overpaid. You don't use a mistake as a precedent, unless of course the goal is to continue making mistakes
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