Is the club supposed to not try to improve the squad?
Is Jadon Sancho really worth the 100 plus million fee?
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No we are. Im actually saying we won't do that even though it's needed. And if we do manage the summer touted there it will be with Pogba leaving meaning it's not half as good as it sounds.
I don't believe a word from the club because they always seem to let us down. Our rebuilds never get complete cause they take too long.
When you factor in our terrible summer last summer where we didn't Buy a single player for our first 11 then this summer needs to be impeccable.
I'm talking a starting CB CDM and RW. And if Pogba goes a top replacement for him.
That's what an ambitious club would do. It sounds and is very difficult but the Glazers/ED/The coaches made this summer twice as hard by wasting the last one.
Without any concrete offer going in
.One thing I think will surprise a lot of people though, is that Sancho wouldn't actually have been much use to us last night. Against a low block like Villarreal had, him playing out there on the right faced off of against 2 defenders, he would've just passed back or sideways. He's not really a player to take on men in a tight defence to unblock space.
If you watch most of his goals for Dortmund this season, they've been on the counter. Likewise when he has played against tighter defences in the CL he hasn't been great.
If you watch most of his goals for Dortmund this season, they've been on the counter. Likewise when he has played against tighter defences in the CL he hasn't been great.
Before last season he wanted to be our out and out striker, he isn't suited to that role but I agree, he should be playing LW but even then he's wildly inconsitent.
True. Wishful thinking on my behalf for Grealish, Sancho, DM and CB. It's the summer I wanted us to have last year.
Yeah will only be one of the first two and odds are it won't be Jack despite being the better player
Having him in the squad would have made a big difference last night against a low block for a few reasons - firstly, our forward players would have been much fitter because they'd have been rotated throughout the season, and secondly it would have given us an option from the bench to change the game (one of him/Rashford/Greenwood), against their tiring defence.
We really need to go for him this summer, more quality depth up front is one of the key differences between us and City - where they can bring on Mahrez, we have to bring on Dan James.
I would prefer Grealish despite him not being suitable
I think he'd be brilliant too, he's a top player, I'd be over the moon with either.
We do need more than both. If we had oil money and the will to for it all next season we bring in the following starting from the back:
GK, backup RB, CB, CDM, RW and CF. And even then, a case can be made for upgrading on Rashford at LW.
But all that would be clearly excessive, even for City, to address in a single transfer window.
McTominay actually put in a decent shift yesterday but bringing in a proper CDM would be a plus for the squad. But when we have 60% possession and create only two chances on goal, and the one goal we concede is on a set piece, our problems lie primarily in a lack of quality on the front line and at CB.
It was just one game, but Villarreal are not that far off clubs in the PL we had trouble with and dropped points to this season. They set up in a low block and took their chance on a free kick, while we had most of the ball and failed to break them down in the final third.
Yes I do agree with you that a create right winger and a partner for Maguire are of more importance right now than a dm.
If we had Pogba / Rashford for the left side, Cavani / Greenwood number 9 and Sancho / Diallo for left we would be quite strong and have the options needed for different teams.
And if we get a strong partner for Maguire a midfield of Frend and McT should be enough at least until the following season where we could then strengthen there.
Wish we would get it done.
Last 3 seasons, 125 games and 109 goals or assists.
Last 3 seasons, 125 games and 109 goals or assists.
Completely agree. Just one more point I’d like to emphasize and that is that added quality on the front line would have allowed Ole to give Rashford more time to fully recover from whatever his body and mind are suffering from. Rashford gave it everything he had yesterday, but his tank was empty. Except for one moment, he had no ability to accelerate past a defender. But Ole was never going to sub off Rashford for James or Diallo to go for the win in normal time. Having Sancho at his disposal would give Ole the option of dropping Rashford or Greenwood, or playing all three if all are fully fit and in form.
Only just turned 21 too
Kajumba who has ties with the Sancho camp has said Sancho is top of our wishlist this summer.
It's on!
Edit: link to article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...chester-United-signings-Sancho-Rice-list.html
It's on!
Edit: link to article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...chester-United-signings-Sancho-Rice-list.html
Sick of the wishlist, want him to be top of the done dealio list.
Hakimi + Neto
or
Sancho + Trippier
or
Sancho + Trippier
We will sign him. I guess it'll be for nearly 90m. We'll sign another midfielder and consider Tom Heaton the 3rd signing and here we go everyone.
Glazers will want to satisfy fans so they'll throw all their cards on the Sancho deal.
Glazers will want to satisfy fans so they'll throw all their cards on the Sancho deal.
Heaton doesn't count as he'll be a free transfer replacing one of the outgoing GKs TBF
And we'll 100% sign a CB all the noise in the media and all the names linked in that position means little. Bailly's interview from 2 days ago sounds like a man that would still leave despite his new contract due to game time
Watch us go and count him at the end. It's Manchester United.
As for the CB, if we sign one it'll probably be for the bench imo. Sancho would eat the majority of the budget if we get him. We won't spend big on the other transfers.
Varane, Pau Torres, Kounde, Botman, Cristian Romero the names we've been strongly linked with
None of those are for "the bench" and the most expensive ones would be Kounde and Varane(who IMO will extend at Madrid) for around £50-60m
The rest would be £40m and below. We could still get Sancho as well as one of those. Ole only trusts Maguire I'm dead sure he wants someone to start with him not a bench player
If we spend 40 or 50m on a defender and nearly 90m on Sancho, that will most probably mean no midfielder signing this summer. This will be close to 140-150m. Without selling some players for serious cash that'll be it for us. If we sell Bailly, I doubt he'll bring us more than 20m. Will we be fine with Fred, Scott and the pointless VDB for another season ?
The briefs today did say unlike CB/RW midfield will depend heavily on outgoings so there is that. And I don't think it'll be a big name like Rice if we get one IMO it will be a surprise signing like Amad. There's a lack of serious names we're linked with at DM bar Rice(who West Ham won't sell) compared to Sancho and a CB.
But we need a center midfielder. Scott played well yesterday alright, but going forward I think we'll need a better option than him and Fred. I honestly want a midfielder far more than a CB.
Anyway, let's see what we'll do.
Grealish on the left with shaw would be ripping apart teams. Just sign the fecker.
Disagree. He would be playing 1-2s and would be driving at defenders way more than Greenwood and way better than Rashford
Hopefully, as that's the only way this will get done. I really doubt we'll be able to guarantee the 80m pounds they want without addons included.
If we buy Sancho over Grealish it will be one of the worst decisions in the long list of poor decisions we have made since Fergie.
Grealish is the fecking generational talent who can hold the ball, effortlessly skip past defenders and always make the right decision.
Another costly mistake coming in. Brace yourselves.
Okay son
I am going to do this here again
In:
Sancho 80m
New DM 40m
New CB 40m
Out:
Lingard 30m
James 20m
Pereira 10m
In:
Sancho 80m
New DM 40m
New CB 40m
Out:
Lingard 30m
James 20m
Pereira 10m
Yeah he really is the Messi of our times.
Sancho is more productive and has more natural talent than Grealish at the age of 20/21. He also plays in a position where we need strengthening. He's also miles better than Grealish was at the same age. The only thing he lacks in experience in a tighter and better league which will only come with time.
I'd like Grealish but he is correlated to Pogba more than the RW so I don't see the comparison. Right now we need a RW. If we let Pogba then only a requirement to replace him arises.
I'm talking about Sancho over Grealish. We do need both but Grealish can control the game and draw defenders in, win fouls and is a c***. Sancho may be more talented age-wise but Grealish is the finished product. He really is criminally under rated with how good he is with the ball.
I get your point about the RW but It's not like we're sorted on the LW.
I know you are but for one, I think that Sancho is going to be the better player and more importantly, he plays in a position we are weaker in. On the left, Grealish, Rashford and Pogba would really be overkill. All big players who would expect to start and all on huge money.
For what it's worth, I'd happily swap Pogba for Grealish at this point but we know that the former isn't going anywhere.
Rashford will probably need a surgery in the near future and we can disagree on the bolded part.
CF: Martial, Cavani
LW: Grealish, Rashford
RW: Sancho, Greenwood
We'll have ample games to rotate and all the players (except Cavani) can play in multiple positions. Might also be able to rest Bruno and play Grealish there. But passing on Jack will be criminal imo - he can take us to the next level with his ability on the ball.
Oh you're proposing we sign both. I really don't think we have the funds to get both.
Dont know why Grealish's name gets thrown in? There is no way Villa will sell him unless they are on a kamikaze mission next season and targeting relegation.
They will sell if the right offer comes. That means +100m. It's not like Grealish will stay there forever. They know they are just a step stone for him and will have to cash on him eventually.
However I don't see us going for him. Can't afford money for both him and Sancho in same summer and I think we will prefer Sancho.
He walks into this starting 11 so yes.
Sancho 80m
Trippier 15m
Heaton free
CB (Torres probably) 50m
That's what I'd guess our summer will be. There's absolutely no reason not to get them in early, put this season behind us and start off the pre season with intent. Doubtful though.
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