Is it worth playing McTominay up front?

Against Newcastle without Casemeiro, we should pack the midfield and play a 4312 false 9 formation ;
Team should be D De Gea, AWB, Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Lindelof(CDM) , Mctominay and Sabitzer as 8’s if fit , Bruno in false 9 and Antony and Rashford up front.
 
I'm not going to read 4 pages of posts.

So i'll assume someone has written..
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zaafi said:
Oh really? You don't think McTominay can play as a striker for United? Shocking :lol:
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It's a bit of a mad suggestion isn't it? Considering Mctominay has the same number of goals this season for club and country as Ihenacho, it would be even dumber to argue that United should buy Iheanacho and stick him up front :lol:
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
It's a bit of a mad suggestion isn't it? Considering Mctominay has the same number of goals this season for club and country as Ihenacho, it would be even dumber to argue that United should buy Iheanacho and stick him up front :lol:
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I hope you're joking. Player A has more goals than player B over a certain amount of games so he should be the better choice as a forward. So you would rather play Rabiot over Hojlund as a striker from next year? :lol:
 
zaafi said:
I hope you're joking. Player A has more goals than player B over a certain amount of games so he should be the better choice as a forward. So you would rather play Rabiot over Hojlund as a striker from next year? :lol:
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A return of 6 goals from any player by April should end the debate as to whether they should play up front for United. Ihenacho and Mctominay are both inadequate centre forward options.
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
A return of 6 goals from any player by April should end the debate as to whether they should play up front for United. Ihenacho and Mctominay are both inadequate centre forward options.
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We're playing with Weghorst as our main striker ffs. He has zero goals in PL. I really don't think suggesting Iheanacho on a cheap as a backup to Osimhen from next year is as absurd as you make it out to be.
 
Give the lad a game or two. I think he'll surprise people, he has a lot of the attributes for it.

1) Very good finisher on the ground and in the air
2) Makes good runs in the box
3) Very good close control
4) Uses his body well
5) We know can cover a lot of ground so will press as a CF.

Plus the added benefit of him having played there in the youth team. His passing hasn't improved so he's not going to be a very good CM ever for us.
 
marktan said:
Give the lad a game or two. I think he'll surprise people, he has a lot of the attributes for it.

1) Very good finisher on the ground and in the air
2) Makes good runs in the box
3) Very good close control
4) Uses his body well
5) We know can cover a lot of ground so will press as a CF.

Plus the added benefit of him having played there in the youth team. His passing hasn't improved so he's not going to be a very good CM ever for us.
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Runs from deep, maybe, like a bargain-bin Lampard, and decent stamina, but I've seldom seen him make any really smart runs in the box, except for the occasional corner. He's fairly strong but again I'm not sure he shields the ball particularly well, and likewise the issue of his 'control' or otherwise is a divisive one, for good reason. I think you're right about the heading tbh, at least when he's left unmarked. but we're not swinging endless balls into the box and at PL level you also need those same clever runs when it comes to attacking aerial balls.
 
He should be sold in summer, to get a much better CM in. Mcallister from Brighton will do .
 
Can't stop scoring for Scotland. Should he be playing more advanced for us?
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I genuinely 100% believe this.

But then to be fair a one of those inflatable wavy men you get at car dealerships would be better then Martial
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The thought of a cross going in, the keeper comes, a defender jumps for it.

ETH shouts ‘now’ and Van de Garg pushes the inflate button and suddenly amongst the players this monstrosity balloons up and heads it in.
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No it’s worth selling him and using the money to buy an actual striker. I just hope for his sake when he is sold he doesn’t join a team that want to play him as a DM.
 
Samid said:
Can't stop scoring for Scotland. Should he be playing more advanced for us?
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I didn’t even realise there was a country called Scotland, I thought it was a play on words combining Scott and Haaland due to their striking similarities as elite forwards.
 
AltiUn said:
I didn’t even realise there was a country called Scotland, I thought it was a play on words combining Scott and Haaland due to their striking similarities as elite forwards.
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Don’t be ridiculous. Haaland is not an elite forward and hence, therefore, should not be compared to Scott.
 
I just don’t get the hate for him or the indifference, he’s not a CDM, never has been, he’s not a number 10 or a number 9 but he could be a very good BTB number 8 that gets double figures in goals and assists, coming to his peak years and I’d like to see him being given more minutes, as an 8 if we are going to play Bruno or Mount as Right winger options, then a 3 man midfield from ; Casemiro, K Mainoo, S Amrabat, S Mctominay and C Ericsen with 3 starting and Two from the bench should give us far more control in midfield in PL games.


I just hope ETH gives up on his crazy idea of 4-1-2-3 with Bruno and Ericsen or Bruno and Mount as the 8/10 if so, we will lose a minimum of 13-14 PL games this season!
 
He isn't a bad player. I feel like he isn't given the right opportunity, and really, never has been. His reputation was tarnished while we tried to shoehorn him into a holding midfielder - and people judge him based on that.

I feel like he could be used to add balance to our midfield as box-to-box 8. Get rid of that fraud Mount, and play McTominay in his place when Amrabat isn't available. In my opinion, our midfield would be much more balanced.
 
Attacking box to box at a Europa League level side is what he should be. Would be a very good one
 
I genuinely really like Scott and I believe you are right when you say CDM is not his best position. Unfortunately though it’s unlikely he will be able to play his best position in this team, so i truly believe he will only play his best football and maybe surprised a few people, when he joins another club.
 
It's ridiculous a club of our stature, with the money we've spent is even talking about this...and yet I 100% believe he'd have done a better job than Wout Weghorst and I'd prefer him at #9 over Rashford

He was an AM/CF in the Youth team, so it's not as completely crazy as it might sound.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
The thought of a cross going in, the keeper comes, a defender jumps for it.

ETH shouts ‘now’ and Van de Garg pushes the inflate button and suddenly amongst the players this monstrosity balloons up and heads it in.
inflatable-tube-man-air-dancer.gif
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:lol: This balloon man reminds me of a few players, but I can't think who. Who's lanky with arms flying around all over the place?
 
Woziak said:
I just don’t get the hate for him or the indifference, he’s not a CDM, never has been, he’s not a number 10 or a number 9 but he could be a very good BTB number 8 that gets double figures in goals and assists, coming to his peak years and I’d like to see him being given more minutes, as an 8 if we are going to play Bruno or Mount as Right winger options, then a 3 man midfield from ; Casemiro, K Mainoo, S Amrabat, S Mctominay and C Ericsen with 3 starting and Two from the bench should give us far more control in midfield in PL games.


I just hope ETH gives up on his crazy idea of 4-1-2-3 with Bruno and Ericsen or Bruno and Mount as the 8/10 if so, we will lose a minimum of 13-14 PL games this season!
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I admit there are many different ways of looking at this game and all the players in it. But context always helps.

McT is a good player. Let’s get that out of the way.

McT has lots of admirable qualities but the problem he is finding is that he doesn’t have enough technical quality or game intelligence to be a long-term success at a top club. He may possibly have the potential to be a productive no8 and has shown he can score goals, carry the ball through midfield, likes to get stuck in - all good. But you have to look at the whole package. In the top teams the no8 has to do that stuff but also have great positional awareness, and quality in receiving and passing in the build up. These latter areas are where he is deficient.

To your second point, there is simply no way that a clever, experienced manager abandons a carefully formulated and developed system on the basis of a few mixed performances, with injuries, before the system has had a chance to bed in. So I humbly suggest you let go of that pipe dream for the time being!
 
If any thread encapsulates the staggering lack of competence shown in handling player recruitment, it's this. He shouldn't even feature in a team serious about winning major trophies, let alone play up front. That's the sort of thing Moyes and Allerdyce would resort to out of desperation
 
Leethal said:
He isn't a bad player. I feel like he isn't given the right opportunity, and really, never has been. His reputation was tarnished while we tried to shoehorn him into a holding midfielder - and people judge him based on that.

I feel like he could be used to add balance to our midfield as box-to-box 8. Get rid of that fraud Mount, and play McTominay in his place when Amrabat isn't available. In my opinion, our midfield would be much more balanced.
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That fraud Mount? Wow.
 
I give the OP a lot of credit for creating this thread. It’s easy for people to laugh and mock before they give a question some thought due to preconceived notion’s.

However with that said I for one wouldn’t play Scott upfront in this team. I’m not saying he couldn’t do a job, and the effort we want from a forward he would provide in spades. But just like the press from the front would highlight he’s best qualities I’d believe us in possession would expose his main weaknesses.

To me Scott can at times have a loose first touch, especially under pressure. He also needs space to work in so back to goal work would be an issue. So no, not upfront I say but let him play his best position. As others have said, box to box he can be a great squad member. Gets goals, presses with intensity and always fights. Not everyone has to be the same to contribute.
 
It would certainly be worth the risk. Scott's a big lad, good 'engine' on him, not afraid to put himself about, has shown he can be devastating , especially when arriving late in the box, and a better bet than either Martial or Sancho at this stage, might also help the new lad settle in. Hope ETH is looking in!
 
Leethal said:
I feel like he could be used to add balance to our midfield as box-to-box 8. Get rid of that fraud Mount, and play McTominay in his place
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One of these players has been player of the year twice for a very good side, and has won the Champions League starting every game he was available for, getting the match winning assist in the final. The other has a career as a Man Utd player because he had a growth spurt while Jose was throwing toys out of the pram, and has achieved nothing close to comparable while being two years older.

But yeah, he knocks in the odd goal for Scotland against goat herders and he's actually been the white Ruud Gullit all along if you think about it, and Mount is the fraud. :lol:
 
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