This thread took an interesting turn. Now you are hating him and you are the one out of your mind. I wonder if redcafe would benefit from having a "Bruno endless appreciation thread" where critique is not allowed in. The usual suspects wouldn't have to suffer from such disgraceful comments like yours.
I just wandered in here. I wasn't aware of the cataclysm that would provoke.
This thread took an interesting turn. Now you are hating him and you are the one out of your mind. I wonder if redcafe would benefit from having a "Bruno endless appreciation thread" where critique is not allowed in. The usual suspects wouldn't have to suffer from such disgraceful comments like yours.
I don't judge, I am just observing. The Bruno topic is very polarized and triggers a lot of people.
It really is a shame that on a forum about Man United, you can't talk about Man United players even slightly positively lest you bring down wrath upon you.
Thats not really how I see it to be honest. It is all a tale of perspectives. Look at the latest posts in this thread. The criticism towards Bruno was very mild, yet it provoked a rather strong reaction. It isn't like positivity is only triggering that, negativity is triggering it as well. And those claims about a poster "hating" a player, it will all go downhill from there. Because it de-values the effort the other poster put in to lay out his reasoning. Imagine you wrote a post about how good a player is and somebody just brushed it aside calling you a fan boy. It is the same stuff from two different perspectives - and one side justifies with "fans should be supportive" and the other with "free speech".
Sorry mate. I am delightful and therefor well liked whereever I go
Seems like emotions are clouding people judgment and understanding what the discussion is about. He's having a poor start to the season and looks like he ISN'T the focal point of the team, what is the whole point of this thread. I pointed out we have options that allow us to rotate him at least, possibly rest as well.
This thread took an interesting turn. Now you are hating him and you are the one out of your mind. I wonder if redcafe would benefit from having a "Bruno endless appreciation thread" where critique is not allowed in. The usual suspects wouldn't have to suffer from such disgraceful comments like yours.
Thats not really how I see it to be honest. It is all a tale of perspectives. Look at the latest posts in this thread. The criticism towards Bruno was very mild, yet it provoked a rather strong reaction. It isn't like positivity is only triggering that, negativity is triggering it as well. And those claims about a poster "hating" a player, it will all go downhill from there. Because it de-values the effort the other poster put in to lay out his reasoning. Imagine you wrote a post about how good a player is and somebody just brushed it aside calling you a fan boy. It is the same stuff from two different perspectives - and one side justifies with "fans should be supportive" and the other with "free speech".
This tensity (if ever) is only going away when people acknowledge their own triggering and try to be less emotional. Maybe just ignoring a post, maybe not taking the shortcut of hater and fanboy.
Sorry mate. I am delightful and therefor well liked whereever I go
He wasn‘t great but I wouldn‘t base anything on a few games. He racks up goal involvements like few others over the course of a season.
1. Everyone can agree, he absolutely works hard.
So, would I.
On 6. He does try to much at times but that's really because he's been our only player who might create something and he feels that he has to try the stuoid stuff in case it comes off, the fact that the likes of Amad are now starting to create more is likely to result in bruno not trying the Hollywood stuff so often
Yeah I guess that really hurt as you like to see yourself in that exact role, don't you?
I just had a looked at this thread and the posts from yesterday onwards. Can't really find those things. But we both know what kind of things pop up in his performance thread so yes, I'd consider even the things you mentioned as rather mild. I personally felt the reaction in here was a little uncalled for. I mean, it didn't took too long for the hating stuff to come up.
It will always be like this, especially when "fans" like you show that they seem to think in clusters and distinguish between right and wrong fans. By all means, do whatever you like but I am pretty sure, you are intelligent enough to realize, that you are fueling this spiral as much as the people you seemingly question their "fan" status.
You are on here since 9 years and you still get so hung on individuals posting questionable stuff? I mean, a part of me is impressed by that level of determination.
Just fyi, I am ready to retract the "very" but apart from that, I guess we have to agree to disagree on that.
The underlying numbers suggest we're fine as we are. We create 3.5 big chances per game - more than Man City, who have had easier fixtures. It looks like it will come together.
Which is good, our issue is we don't have a prolific goal scorer
Nobody has one, Villa aside. Th goal will come.
City don't have a prolific goal scorer?
Agree. Bruno isn't the issue here. The real issue is the lack of real quality teammates. Who could shine with guys like Rashford and Casemiro in the team? I'm honestly surprised that Bruno is still in Manchester and keeps fighting for years for this dead football project.
Not saying it isn't a fact but are there any factual stats to back this up? I don't watch enough of Portugal to know.
Haaland scores that many almost every game on his own
Ok, got it. But out of interest - who made you the barometer for judging what criticism is extreme and what is just fine? Because it sounds suspiciously as if you'd think your opinion would have more substance than that of others...
At some point, people said similar things about Rashford. Or Pogba. "They'd be even better with a better team". Well duh, of course they would, but they do carry a share of the reason the team is what it is today. And that applies to Bruno as well. We have extended with him, whether we like it or not, he'll be here this season and more than likely even longer. We might as well make the best of it - and that means finding a way for him occupy areas where he can play to his strength and limit his involvement in areas he isn't great in. The notion that he alone is holding us back is crazy. Undoubtedly he became somewhat of a symbol of the football stagnation (rightly or wrongly) at United, a posterboy for sounding great but having limited effect. Lets hope, Amad can continue his trend so the full weight in terms of chance creation isn't on Bruno alone. And lets hope the manager starts to sub him when he doesn't have a great game, that should be enough to keep us moving forward in the immediate future. I hope though, that the higher ups are planning for a future without him and make sure, replacements get in place - be that in personnel or adjusted game plans.
Now do the same for goals+assists. Then you will see that Bruno ranks highly.
