BusbyMalone
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I voted nope, but if he comes in and wins us a Premier League or Champions League or, getting giddy here, both, then I will have to recant.
What do you think Sir Alex would say if asked is Ronaldo a United legend ?
Being the best player on one of our three European Cup winning sides in history. Probably that basis.He is a Madrid legend. He is a football legend in general. But I wouldn't specifically consider him a Man Utd legend. On what basis?
WrongInteresting debate. Law left United for fukking Citeh and scored the goal that relegated us, Best left United, Keane left United, Schimkes went to fukking Citeh, Rio left for QPR, Beckham left for Real and later the LA Milky Way and yet they’re all unquestioned United legends.
Cantona played 5 (might be 6, not sure) seasons for us, yet he’s an unquestioned United legend.
Perhaps what’s troubling some here of us the idea that a single player could be a legend at two different clubs. Get over it.
Let’s put it this say: even for those who doubt whether Ronaldo is a United legend, does his return not erase that doubt?
A more difficult question would asking whether bears shit in the woods.
On the basis that you know nothing Zakone.He is a Madrid legend. He is a football legend in general. But I wouldn't specifically consider him a Man Utd legend. On what basis?
He already has legend status here, but he's not "by far" the best to wear the shirt. If he had stayed and replicated what he did at Madrid then okay, but, based on what he did here, yes, he has a claim to be the best, but it's not "by far".Maybe not a legend but by far the best to ever wear the Shirt.
However a league title win would cement legendary status.
He honestly might already be one.
Ya but considering Ronaldo and Messi are mentioned along with Pele and Maradona i think it’s safe to say he is the most talented player to ever player for Manchester United.He already has legend status here, but he's not "by far" the best to wear the shirt. If he had stayed and replicated what he did at Madrid then okay, but, based on what he did here, yes, he has a claim to be the best, but it's not "by far".
Personally, I'd give that to Sir Bobby. A mesmerising footballer who, like Ronaldo, won it all here (league, European Cup, balon d'or).
The Ronaldo that went on to be considered amongst the footballing greats didn't play for United.Ya but considering Ronaldo and Messi are mentioned along with Pele and Maradona i think it’s safe to say he is the most talented player to ever player for Manchester United.
All due respect to Sir Bobby but he obviously is not mentioned in the same breath as the other 4.
Thats all Im saying.
He did. In 06/07 07/08 08/09The Ronaldo that went on to be considered amongst the footballing greats didn't play for United.
He did. In 06/07 07/08 08/09
Particularly the last 2 years we’re the “beginning” of all time great Ronaldo
Oh, of course. Ronaldo is on another level overall. I was talking about their individual United careers, though. I don't think anyone's trumps Charlton's.Ya but considering Ronaldo and Messi are mentioned along with Pele and Maradona i think it’s safe to say he is the most talented player to ever player for Manchester United.
All due respect to Sir Bobby but he obviously is not mentioned in the same breath as the other 4.
Thats all Im saying.
Is that because he left for Madrid? Personally, I don't think that prevents his legend status here. I mean, only a legend would get the reactions he does at Old Trafford as an opposition player, have his song sung for years after leaving, lift Manchester as a whole upon returning, etc.He's not a United legend but he's a legend of the game. I suspect younger fans will consider him a United legend.
I think we can put this non-debate to bed after the supernova of excitement his return has generated over the past 72 hours.
I'd be interested to know if Juventus fans consider him the most talented player to ever play for them.
Oh, of course. Ronaldo is on another level overall. I was talking about their individual United careers, though. I don't think anyone's trumps Charlton's.
Is that because he left for Madrid? Personally, I don't think that prevents his legend status here. I mean, only a legend would get the reactions he does at Old Trafford as an opposition player, have his song sung for years after leaving, lift Manchester as a whole upon returning, etc.
Even just looking at it from what he achieved here, he's our only player outside of the trinity to win the balon d'or.
The man won literally every prize there is to win here. Was the best player of United by a long shot for 5 years. Won the fecking ballon do'r here and people don't consider him a legend? He went to Real Madrid after winning everything here? Cry me a fecking river.
As long as he hasn't played for any other PL club that's fine with me. He never spoke bad about the club, always showed respect and acknowledged that United made him the player he is today.
United legend through and through.
The revisionism is stunning.He was the best player by a long shot for 5 years?
The revisionism is stunning.
Just in case people forgot, let me remind them of our "Legend"
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/jul/11/manchesterunited.premierleague1
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/ronaldo-i-am-a-slave-864958.html
Cristiano Ronaldo's desire to join Real Madrid appeared stronger than ever last night after a television interview in which he reiterated he had not changed his mind about wanting to leave Manchester United and agreed with the Fifa president Sepp Blatter's criticism about the way the European Cup winners had handled the situation. Blatter had urged United to allow the player to leave and, more controversially, complained that there was "too much modern slavery" in the sport.
Blatter, an honorary member of Real Madrid with close ties to the club's president, Ramón Calderón, had described himself as "very much in sympathy" with Ronaldo and urged United to allow him to leave, suggesting it was otherwise tantamount to slavery. "I agree with what he said," said Ronaldo, when that last point was put to him. "It's true. I agree with what the president of Fifa said. I know what I want and what I would like. We have to see what happens. I do not know where I will begin next season."
Slavery is more than strong. There's a way you behave.Slavery is a strong term but if he wanted to fk off and was forced to stay after he won everything, I feel like that is his right and I'm not sure why people have anything against that.
Bump
Watching lot of old players coming to Old Trafford recently, and someone like Nani watching both games and posting some brilliant reunited pictures with some players, I think the biggest thing I didn't like with Ronaldo that in 10 or so years he was playing for other clubs he never came back to watch single game, visit the training, or anything like that, like majority of our old players do. I remember few years ago when he was playing for Real Madrid and was injured while we played important European game like last night, Old Trafford saw many legends and yet he was somewhere else watching tennis game or something like that, but yet our fans continued chanting Viva Ronaldo, even though it was obvious he couldn't give two fecks about United ever since he left us in 2009. I always found it amazing that people liked him that much.
I guess Ronaldo needed to receive 300-400k weekly from United to come back.
Can we reopen/reset the poll?
Bump
Watching lot of old players coming to Old Trafford recently, and someone like Nani watching both games and posting some brilliant reunited pictures with some players, I think the biggest thing I didn't like with Ronaldo that in 10 or so years he was playing for other clubs he never came back to watch single game, visit the training, or anything like that, like majority of our old players do. I remember few years ago when he was playing for Real Madrid and was injured while we played important European game like last night, Old Trafford saw many legends and yet he was somewhere else watching tennis game or something like that, but yet our fans continued chanting Viva Ronaldo, even though it was obvious he couldn't give two fecks about United ever since he left us in 2009. I always found it amazing that people liked him that much.
I guess Ronaldo needed to receive 300-400k weekly from United to come back.
Can we reopen/reset the poll?
Guy gave us a lot of pleasure.
Guy got lost in some end of career denial.
He’s probably kicking himself now, stuck in Saudi. Ugh.
Does this fella get medals for this season if we win trophies?