Hugh Jass
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I voted SF but i have to be realistic. They would not be able to deliver on their promises, especially now with the pandemic.
I voted SF but i have to be realistic. They would not be able to deliver on their promises, especially now with the pandemic.
Now seems like as good a time as any to repost this...
They will never get a chance now. They fecked up by not running more candidates.
Country is in big trouble with those toe rags getting back in. At least SF should get a majority by the next election....
A lot of FF votes came from FG voters who had enough and couldn't vote for SF. They also hoovered up a lot of votes from SF voters who hadnt much options.I think you'd have to consider it a failure on SF's part if they're not leading government after the next election. FF & FG are stuck together in a situation where they're going to make a lot of unpopular decisions. Meanwhile SF will have a full government cycle to build off the last election and convince people they're a viable alternative government.
Though who knows, a lot could change over the next few years.
To be honest, FF and FG started to steal a lot of SF policies and promises after the votes came in.
I do think this was a chance to reset some problems, if we have to work hard to build us back up we may as well work on thr foundations that will help with housing etc down the line.
I don’t think we will have the stomach for major change 5 years down the line. SF will still get in but they'll be massively let off the hook.
75%.![]()
Na dont think so. He falls apart on actual Irish politics which is some hinderance to have.Yeah he seems to have gotten a huge bump for his handling of the coronavirus crisis . Maybe in times of a health panic people start trusting the nearest Doctor they see. He would walk an election now
Our share would actually be closer to €2bn. The rest would go to the EU countries who Apple funneled the profits from into Ireland.https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0715/1153349-apple-ireland-eu/
Imagine not wanting €13 billion....
Nasty cnut...
It's been the first time I ever joined in contacting TDs to voice disapproval in the leadup to that vote. I'm absolutely disgusted and can't believe they're going through with it. I hope an EU court challenge is possible.I see the FFG scum have now voted to seal the records of the investigation of the Catholic Church dumping babies in a septic tank for 20 years. We need a revolution.
Sickening. The Greens have a lot to answer for.It's been the first time I ever joined in contacting TDs to voice disapproval in the leadup to that vote. I'm absolutely disgusted and can't believe they're going through with it. I hope an EU court challenge is possible.
I gave them some votes I think in the last election. Never again.Sickening. The Greens have a lot to answer for.
On what legal basis can they seal the records?
And why would they do that?
They could add an amendment and run a new investigation under it with the work already done.
Apparently theres evidence that the government forged documents etc and there are a lot of lawsuits on the table.
God Irelands politics is so incestuous but thats the result of being such a small island. Theres those in the seanad whos relations were in power at the time ffs.
You can read about it here. It’s incredibly complicated, relates to historical data protection legislation and steps are being taken to ensure that the archives remain open for the ongoing investigation. It’s definitely possible that the bill has been poorly worded or rushed throughout without enough thought. I’m not a lawyer, so can’t really comment. Most of the legal complexities go over my head. What’s definitely not happening is some sort of weird conspiracy to protect the Catholic Church.
None of this nuance matters to grand-standing opposition politicians and furious social media campaigns, obviously. 99% of whom have no clue about any of the legal complexities.
It seems fairly complicated alright.
There also seems to be a conflict between the 2004 Act and the newer Data Protection laws.
O' Gorman has said he will consult with survivors and take further advice so hopefully a sensible solution can be found.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40070054.html
My job involves a fair bit of stuff that is GDPR relevant and I’ve never known a piece of legislation to cause so many divided opinions amongst the legal team. It seems to be very difficult to interpret and the punishments are so insanely costly that everyone is constantly erring on the side of caution. Which seems to be what happened here.
So is it a case of the opposition using the lack of knowledge that the general public would have on this subject to their advantage seeing as it's a hugely emotive issue?
Yeah, pretty much.
I’ve read one very detailed critique of the bill from someone who actually seems to understands the legislation but I’m willing to bet that nine out of ten opposition politicians (and 99 out of 100 angry people on twitter) getting up in arms about this are bullshit artists who are completely out of their depth but want to take a shot anyway. To be clear, I’m out of my depth too!
You can read about it here. It’s incredibly complicated, relates to historical data protection legislation and steps are being taken to ensure that the archives remain open for the ongoing investigation. It’s definitely possible that the bill has been poorly worded or rushed throughout without enough thought. I’m not a lawyer, so can’t really comment. Most of the legal complexities go over my head. What’s definitely not happening is some sort of weird conspiracy to protect the Catholic Church.
None of this nuance matters to grand-standing opposition politicians and furious social media campaigns, obviously. 99% of whom have no clue about any of the legal complexities.
I'll give it a read, it's just been a barrage of shite because of all this #saveourkids nonsense that these yellow vest pricks are spreading. About 20% of my Facebook feed is full of people who I know to be quite nice, sharing stuff that tries to co-relate this piece of legislation with how Covid 19 is a hoax. It's genuinely infuriating.
The one thing I will say, is that from a PR perspective, this Governments attitude seems to be "Ignore everything and hope that The Greens take the brunt of the turmoil" knowing that Eamon Ryan will be about as active as my sex life when it comes to defending his Ministers (Admittedly tough) job.
I see the FFG scum have now voted to seal the records of the investigation of the Catholic Church dumping babies in a septic tank for 20 years. We need a revolution.
a revoloution will achieve what exactly? Im not government defender but come on tell me about the revolution and how it will make things ok?
Who will govern when the dust settles?
I am sick to the teeth of listening to social media warriors and quite frankly thick feckers ( not you ) that just sit there and throw stones when they wouldnt have the first clue about fecking anything that goes on. One of my neighbours is all about "feck the government they dont look after the people"....so I said to him you are living in a fecking HAP provide house and you and your whole family is on the dole, fecking 4 of you in there , but hey the government doesnt look after the people. Blank look back and he just went back into his HAP house and closed the door. Dick head. Back to Facebook with him.
My own brothers are the same - fecking moaning about everything the gov does but yet when even a remotely trick question is posed back to them about what they suggest should be done I just get the same shit that Bill Gates is trying to run the world and make everyone sheep. Honestly with people like that and the crowds on Grafton Street we are fecked. I'd get on a rocket to fecking Mars if there was one available.
Whats fecking the country is the generation of utter thick feckers using social media to get "educated".
We do need a revolution, one that brings a bit of fecking cop on back into society as at the minute we are going down the swanny because there are too many people that are indeed just like the sheep they complain about.
Heh. So true. Calling other people “sheeple” and not an original thought between them.
a revoloution will achieve what exactly? Im not government defender but come on tell me about the revolution and how it will make things ok?
Who will govern when the dust settles?
I am sick to the teeth of listening to social media warriors and quite frankly thick feckers ( not you ) that just sit there and throw stones when they wouldnt have the first clue about fecking anything that goes on. One of my neighbours is all about "feck the government they dont look after the people"....so I said to him you are living in a fecking HAP provide house and you and your whole family is on the dole, fecking 4 of you in there , but hey the government doesnt look after the people. Blank look back and he just went back into his HAP house and closed the door. Dick head. Back to Facebook with him.
My own brothers are the same - fecking moaning about everything the gov does but yet when even a remotely trick question is posed back to them about what they suggest should be done I just get the same shit that Bill Gates is trying to run the world and make everyone sheep. Honestly with people like that and the crowds on Grafton Street we are fecked. I'd get on a rocket to fecking Mars if there was one available.
Whats fecking the country is the generation of utter thick feckers using social media to get "educated".
We do need a revolution, one that brings a bit of fecking cop on back into society as at the minute we are going down the swanny because there are too many people that are indeed just like the sheep they complain about.