Interstellar | SPOILERS! | Keep out unless you've seen it

Well, they don't look like an advance forces of an incoming invasion. ;)

With survival at stake (apparently), ethics might take a back seat.
 
I enjoyed TDKR tbf, though I haven't been able to get through a rewatch on DVD. Think Nolan's recent pics are just perfect cinema films, nothing wrong with that.
Rooney in Dublin said:
My wife hates sci-fi and films set in space, so I'm probably going to end up going on my own just like for Gravity which inspired this thread.
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I just went to a cinema on my own for the first time! A couple of weeks ago, was away with work in Birmingham and figured seeing Guardians of the Galaxy was the best way to kill one of my evenings in the shitty second city. Wasn't weird at all, though there were only three other people in the cinema, and one was another guy on his own. Think I'd feel too self-conscious about it in a crowded cinema.
 
Cina said:
Yeah, hell just look at Guardians of the Galaxy as a recent example of a film everyone seems to love.

The difference for me between Inception and GotG is that GotG knows that it's silly fun popcorn and plays off it to deliver a really enjoyable film, whereas Inception tries to come across as being incredibly smart and thrilling despite actually being really fecking silly and outlandish itself.
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In what way does Inception try to come across as smart? I don't get this perception of the film. It comes from some people who've watched it who say it's hard to follow and for some reason this bothers other people who don't think it's smart to the point where they point fingers at the film for it.
 
acnumber9 said:
In what way does Inception try to come across as smart? I don't get this perception of the film. It comes from some people who've watched it who say it's hard to follow and for some reason this bothers other people who don't think it's smart to the point where they point fingers at the film for it.
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It depends on the definition of smart. The plot of delving into sub-conscious though the way of dreams (layered ones at that) is not a plot line that you see in everyday films. Maybe there has been somthing similar done before, but the way the movie has been made made with a brillinat climax that the audience would have never expected (at least I did not see that coming) is what makes it a smart experiance. GotG is a differnt kind of movie that does not take itself seriously. The plot line, the screenplay has been made numerus times before...but the movie scores purely by the light hearted entertainment factor and probably a bit OTT silliness.

Both are very good movies in their own way and should not be compared at all.
 
acnumber9 said:
In what way does Inception try to come across as smart? I don't get this perception of the film. It comes from some people who've watched it who say it's hard to follow and for some reason this bothers other people who don't think it's smart to the point where they point fingers at the film for it.
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There's something we can agree on, it's definitely not smart.
 
Nolan thinks that two movies are the same and that "Interstellar expands out in the way Inception contracts inwards". I doubt the story will be as complex and confusing as Inception though.

It will be interesting how this movie unfolds. We all know the basic plots but I guess it will be a sci-fi thriller with romance. Have a lot of expectations for this, hope Nolan delivers.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
I'll watch this.

Somehow I think this will be a space drama, like the movie Contact and not a all out adventure.
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If it's gonna be remotely close to Contact with the atmosphere it will be a success anyway.

I still expect some of Nolan's decent writing and at least some twist like in The Prestige. I hope he still got it.
 
Cina said:
Yeah, hell just look at Guardians of the Galaxy as a recent example of a film everyone seems to love.

The difference for me between Inception and GotG is that GotG knows that it's silly fun popcorn and plays off it to deliver a really enjoyable film, whereas Inception tries to come across as being incredibly smart and thrilling despite actually being really fecking silly and outlandish itself.
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This all over. TDKR shouldn't warrant the stick it does since it's a superhero film, and I know I shouldn't have as many problems with it as I do. But when they go for an ultra serious tone and try to make it realistic, I can't help but take issue with the ridiculous plotholes and how everything just fits/falls into place with no explanation.
 
I wasn't a fan of TDKR, but mainly because the big fight between Batman and Bane was just incomprehensibly shit. It was like a rehearsal fight, only somehow it made it onto the final cut. Just seemed so out of place. I largely like Nolan's films though, and am looking forward to Interstellar very much a lot.
 
Silva said:
There's something we can agree on, it's definitely not smart.
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It doesn't really need to be. It's a heist film with a gimmick to make it a bit different. Your problem lies with those claiming it is an incredible mindfeck it seems.

Nolan makes good films. I'd have high expectations this will follow suit. Regardless of how smart the viewer may or may not think they are.
 
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acnumber9 said:
It doesn't really need to be. It's a heist film with a gimmick to make it a bit different. You're problem lies with those claiming it is an incredible mindfeck it seems.

Nolan makes good films. I'd have high expectations this will follow suit. Regardless of how smart the viewer may or may not think they are.
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That's really not my problem with it. It's just not that good.
 
acnumber9 said:
Must've been somebody else then.
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You're thinking of Cina. Coincidentally he is right and it does try to be clever, it's attempt at an ambiguous ending (as well as the other things already mentioned here) are evidence of that. But instead of actually being smart, like Inside no 9 (if you'll excuse me using tv as reference) for example, it only manages to be slightly complicated. Personally I don't care and think the actual film is more important than the intentions of the filmmaker and the film itself is boring, soulless, silly and has Leanardo Dicaprio defying gravity every now and again. It's a shame this type of film is so popular because it means studios will carry on throwing buckets of money at this kind of shit.
 
Silva said:
You're thinking of Cina. Coincidentally he is right and it does try to be clever, it's attempt at an ambiguous ending (as well as the other things already mentioned here) are evidence of that. But instead of actually being smart, like Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel for example, it only manages to be slightly complicated. Personally I don't care and think the actual film is more important than the intentions of the filmmaker and the film itself is boring, soulless, silly and has Leanardo Dicaprio defying gravity every now and again. It's a shame this type of film is so popular because it means studios will carry on throwing buckets of money at this kind of shit.
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No it was definitely both of you. The evidence is above. I'm not sure how an ambiguous ending is evidence of a film that thinks itself really clever. It was also completely unimportant as to whether it toppled at the end or not as it didn't mean he wasn't dreaming.

Whether you like it or not. Films aren't made for you. They're made for the masses in the most part. I'm sure there's a French film festival somewhere that can give you what you crave. Inception is a better example of the kind of film that should be funded than many. It's an original story and it hasn't spawned a load of cash in sequels.
 
acnumber9 said:
No it was definitely both of you. The evidence is above. I'm not sure how an ambiguous ending is evidence of a film that thinks itself really clever. It was also completely unimportant as to whether it toppled at the end or not as it didn't mean he wasn't dreaming.

Whether you like it or not. Films aren't made for you. They're made for the masses in the most part. I'm sure there's a French film festival somewhere that can give you what you crave. Inception is a better example of the kind of film that should be funded than many. It's an original story and it hasn't spawned a load of cash in sequels.
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I was agreeing with you that it wasn't clever, try reading the context of the post. What people think of a film doesn't really make a difference to whether I like it or not, and you seem to be the only person in the world who thinks it's not trying to be clever, this is the first link on google if you type 'clever films': http://www.imdb.com/list/ls055838770/
 
Silva said:
I was agreeing with you that it wasn't clever, try reading the context of the post. What people think of a film doesn't really make a difference to whether I like it or not, and you seem to be the only person in the world who thinks it's not trying to be clever, this is the first link on google if you type 'clever films': http://www.imdb.com/list/ls055838770/
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I'm perfectly aware of the context. It seems you aren't though as I never once mentioned whether I thought it was clever or not.

That's an individual's opinion. I've yet to see a compelling argument for why the people who made the film were trying to be clever. If the best you can come up with is an IMDB link and mentioning the ending then I doubt you'll be the one to provide it.
 
acnumber9 said:
What was less 'clever' about it than other heist movies you've seen?
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I think you read literally the opposite of what I wrote there.

acnumber9 said:
I'm perfectly aware of the context. It seems you aren't though as I never once mentioned whether I thought it was clever or not.

That's an individual's opinion. I've yet to see a compelling argument for why the people who made the film were trying to be clever. If the best you can come up with is an IMDB link and mentioning the ending then I doubt you'll be the one to provide it.
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Why would you argue it's not trying to be clever if you think anything other than it's not clever? That really wouldn't be clever.
 
Silva said:
I think you read literally the opposite of what I wrote there.


Why would you argue it's not trying to be clever if you think anything other than it's not clever? That really wouldn't be clever.
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Has every heist film you've seen failed to be clever? It is their mantra according to you.

I don't see a film that's trying to be any more clever than any other. It's you and others criticising it for that without showing how exactly.
 
I'm looking forward to this film more than any film in a long while. Although I guess that's not actually saying a lot.
 
acnumber9 said:
Has every heist film you've seen failed to be clever? It is their mantra according to you.

I don't see a film that's trying to be any more clever than any other. It's you and others criticising it for that without showing how exactly.
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If you need in simpler language: All(or most) heist movies try to be clever. The failing bit if something you've added, although, they do tend to be a bit stupid.

I'm not going to write up a big fecking essay about how it tries to be clever, the fact that it's so so many layers of dreams and it's ending should be enough.
 
Silva said:
If you need in simpler language: All(or most) heist movies try to be clever. The failing bit if something you've added, although, they do tend to be a bit stupid.

I'm not going to write up a big fecking essay about how it tries to be clever, the fact that it's so so many layers of dreams and it's ending should be enough.
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Yeah, cutting to the credits is such at an attempt at being clever. It should've been so obvious to me.
 
Isn't there like a billion-page Inception thread to talk about Inception?

Got imax tickets booked for this, it's gonna look shit-hot.
 
Rooney in Dublin said:
While I can understand being disappointed at TDKR after the previous one set the bar so high, I think Inception gets a lot of unwarranted shit because it was so widely popular.
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I agree completely. I fell for the early hype and have since reappraised both, TDKR in particular, but Inception holds up far better, and is still a standard bearer for idea driven blockbusters, however flawed the last act is (and it is pretty flawed)

It'll be remembered well though. Culturally it's already entered the lexicon.
 
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Silva said:
It'll be remembered the same way The Matrix is.
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Doubt it, it won't have sequels and games after it and cult which still remains 15 years on.

Best it can hope for is Independence Day, which was one of the most anticipated films and broke box office records, but can't even see it reaching those heights to be honest.
 
NoWinNoFee said:
Doubt it, it won't have sequels and games after it and cult which still remains 15 years on.

Best it can hope for is Independence Day, which was one of the most anticipated films and broke box office records, but can't even see it reaching those heights to be honest.
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Agree that it won't be remembered as The Matrix but on the other hand it is still far better (and will be remembered more) than Independence Day. It is arguably somewhere on the middle. A good movie - no doubt - but not a legendary sci-fi.

While my favorite Nolan's movies are Memento and The Prestige, I think that The Dark Knight will be the movie which will be remembered most from all of his movies. And it is the only true defining genre movie from Nolan.

Here hoping that Interstellar will surprass all of them. As a lot of other people here know, I am not a big fan of him but when you have lunatics likes Sommers, Emmerich and Bay doing blockbusters, well, Nolan looks actually superb. Which makes me eagerly wait for this.
 
My main hope is just that it doesn't have whooshing sounds in space. Is that too much to ask of a sci-fi film? 2001 managed it.
 
True, although Sandra Bullock never shutting up almost made up for it in the annoyance stakes.

Seriously though, if they've gone to the trouble of consulting Kip Thorne about wormhole theory but still make the spaceship whoosh, I'm gonna be peeved.
 
Ubik said:
My main hope is just that it doesn't have whooshing sounds in space. Is that too much to ask of a sci-fi film? 2001 managed it.
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Chris Nolan will probably never reach the level of Stanley Kubrick but he may at least try.
 
Ubik said:
My main hope is just that it doesn't have whooshing sounds in space. Is that too much to ask of a sci-fi film? 2001 managed it.
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They actually brought that up in the Empire article.
In space, no-one can hear, well, anything.

“We’ve fully embraced that reality,” says Nolan. “When you see the finished film, you’ll see there are some pretty deafening silences.” It’s something he wanted to do on Insomnia, but was told that silence on a soundtrack was verboten, like dead air on radio. “People think the projector’s broken. It’s very intense. Just… whoa. Of course, with space it reminds you of the danger. Every time we started putting sound effects in, it felt safer. We’re doing some very radical things on this sound mix. Having made a bunch of films within the Hollywood system now, I can get away with things I never used to get away with.”
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