Interstellar | SPOILERS! | Keep out unless you've seen it

CassiusClaymore said:
I think that's fair. I also think it's fair to compare it to 2001 because that was clearly an inspiration for Nolan and in comparison to that it falls way short. Probably didn't help that I rewatched it the night before I went to see this either.
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I don't think it's that fair. Not all masterpieces are absolutely flawless when you look at the elements one by one, and a few of the elements picked out by AN! are fairly subjective. Also, no one really cares that not every single character is perfectly fleshed out.

In the end, it's the overall feeling left by the film rather than the analysis of all the elements bit by bit that should determine whether or not you felt it was a masterpiece (which in itself is hugely subjective and only gains a real meaning when a large number of people feel the same way).
 
blitz133w said:
Can anyone explain how Cooper communicated to his daughter via the watch?

As far as I understood, he made TARS send information to the seconds hand of the watch.How?

Then after he was sure his daughter took the watch the tesserect was closed. Does that mean the communication bridge between TARS and the watch was constant and unhindered in the coming years? Is that possible? why didn't the closure of the Tesserect affect that communication bridge in anyway?
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The little beams of light that Coop was manipulating were gravitational, so he could move the second hand on the watch when it was on the shelf.
TARS just read out the data in binary which Coop translated into morse code via the watch.

Easy as.
 
Ubik said:
The little beams of light that Coop was manipulating were gravitational, so he could move the second hand on the watch when it was on the shelf.
TARS just read out the data in binary which Coop translated into morse code via the watch.

Easy as.
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If you ignore the fact that Murph didn't 'read' the data from the watch while it was sitting on the shelf, and so it had to be stored within the watch somehow...
 
Rooney in Dublin said:
I don't think it's that fair. Not all masterpieces are absolutely flawless when you look at the elements one by one, and a few of the elements picked out by AN! are fairly subjective. Also, no one really cares that not every single character is perfectly fleshed out.

In the end, it's the overall feeling left by the film rather than the analysis of all the elements bit by bit that should determine whether or not you felt it was a masterpiece (which in itself is hugely subjective and only gains a real meaning when a large number of people feel the same way).
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Quite. I get the overall feeling that a large number of people don't think this is a masterpiece.
 
Its not a masterpiece. Whether people enjoy the movie or not is down to personal taste, but it's not a tight enough story to be called a masterpiece. Then again, time travel is an incredibly tricky subject matter.

Compare Interstellar to Back to the Future for example. Both equally vulnerable to being torn apart on time travel logic, but I doubt anyone has ever questioned BttF because its just a fun ride, whereas Interstellar is attempting to cover much grander themes.

Rather than pick Nolan apart for attempting to make something profound, I found the movie hugely engrossing and prefer to just accept it as a piece of entertainment - same with Inception.
 
Bilbo said:
Its not a masterpiece. Whether people enjoy the movie or not is down to personal taste, but it's not a tight enough story to be called a masterpiece. Then again, time travel is an incredibly tricky subject matter.

Compare Interstellar to Back to the Future for example. Both equally vulnerable to being torn apart on time travel logic, but I doubt anyone has ever questioned BttF because its just a fun ride, whereas Interstellar is attempting to cover much grander themes.

Rather than pick Nolan apart for attempting to make something profound, I found the movie hugely engrossing and prefer to just accept it as a piece of entertainment - same with Inception.
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I agree it's story isn't watertight.

But, if anything, this movie has the most truthful time travel that there is. As the theory of relativity is exactly that.

I'm a huge fan of 2001 A Space Odyssey and this movie doesn't come close to that, but it is a great ride and it is a great movie which even attempts to stay true and close to scientific principles unlike a movie like BttF etc.
 
Bilbo said:
Its not a masterpiece. Whether people enjoy the movie or not is down to personal taste, but it's not a tight enough story to be called a masterpiece. Then again, time travel is an incredibly tricky subject matter.

Compare Interstellar to Back to the Future for example. Both equally vulnerable to being torn apart on time travel logic, but I doubt anyone has ever questioned BttF because its just a fun ride, whereas Interstellar is attempting to cover much grander themes.

Rather than pick Nolan apart for attempting to make something profound, I found the movie hugely engrossing and prefer to just accept it as a piece of entertainment - same with Inception.
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Thats subjective I'd say.
 
tom33 said:
If you ignore the fact that Murph didn't 'read' the data from the watch while it was sitting on the shelf, and so it had to be stored within the watch somehow...
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Exactly. He had to store years of information in an analog watch somehow. It wasn't even like he was continuously manipulating the seconds hand.
 
Saw it tonight, really enjoyed it. Reminded me of 'Voices Of A Distant Star' and not just in the story-line but the feel of it too. Might have to watch that again to see if Nolan was deliberately paying homage to it in some way. For such a long film the character development was dissapointing, and the plot got a little bit predictable at times but I was expecting all that as it's a blockbuster. Thought they did a decent enough job of explaining the science stuff without making it boring, you need to make a few leaps but it's Sci-Fi at the end of the day. Visuals and sound were great throughout. 7.5/10.
 
Saw it yesterday and I must say I enjoyed it. Sci-Fi is not really my thing so it's easy for me to poke holes in it's logic, but it didn't take me out of the film too much, though there were moments. I did think all the acting was good, music was good and looked good visually. I thought those robots would annoy me when I first saw them, but I actually thought they were a nice addition to the film. There were definitely some audio problems at times, though very few, where I could just not understand what was being said because of so much happening.
 
Some amazing bits; when they were on the first planet, when Matt Damon blew himself up, when McConaughy was falling into the black hole.

Some crappy bits; when McConaughy goes into the most epic, massive, gravity devouring, light devouring, ultimate force of nature that we know of and ends up behind his book shelf at home. Hathoway with her love speech. The last ten minutes
 
Absolutely loved it! In my top 3 favourite movies for sure!
There were plot holes and some things that could have been better but overall I thought it was a fantastic movie and will be more appreciated in the years that go by!!
Also, I'm the only one who thought 2001 was a little bit boring? This movie feels like 2001 on steroids! ;)
 
Thought this was okay overall but it has one of the most ridiculously bullshit endings of all time
 
Disappointing. It was fine uptill the half way mark and then completely lost its way. The Matt Damon part was over the top and poorly done. The planets were underwhelming too. The actual story is full of leaps galore which took me out of the experience.

I suppose its a decent enough entertainer. Lots of big moments with big music and supposedly pivotal points. I just find myself underhwelmed everytime I watch these big entertainers these days.
 
Essaux said:
Great fecking movie.

For those nitpicking it, get off your high horse already. It's called ENTERTAINMENT. Not a factual documentary for the Universe's sake.
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No.

If a story tries to put together this carefully weaved together story which is at the heart of the movie with twists and turns everywhere, it better makes sure that story stands up to scrutiny.

On the other hand, Terminator for example, while fits into the sci-fi genre I guess, was all about great action, kick-ass robots from the future and human-robot relationships.

I mean, the whole basis of the story of Interstellar was crap. Future mankind finds a way to contact their former selves and save them from something that never killed them in the first place. But did. Or didn't. It's just all so far fetched to point of being totally gimmicky. And Nolan has been doing this shit since inception. Since then everything he does is full of "leaps". Ridiculous leaps, that he seems to think makes him a genius and people lap it up. We're all supposed to go "Wow, THAT'S the truth" every 15 minutes, apparently.

Give me a proper action film like Terminator every day of the week. If you're going for a complex plot, make sure it isn't crap.
 
Also, I do feel that these over the top stories can work well if done properly. There's this game called "To the Moon" which had a forward and backward leaping story, but it was handled so brilliantly and ended up being incredibly strong and emotive.
 
How can any movie about Time Travel be watertight? There's too many paradoxes of time that no amount of computer or mind can comprehend.

The closest things to a time travel movie that as close as reality is the simpson treehouse of terror episode where Homer got teleported back into the time machine.

People should stop comparing Interstellar with science, it's a movie and not a new theorem on relativity, it's just A M-O-V-I-E
 
amolbhatia100 said:
No.

If a story tries to put together this carefully weaved together story which is at the heart of the movie with twists and turns everywhere, it better makes sure that story stands up to scrutiny.

On the other hand, Terminator for example, while fits into the sci-fi genre I guess, was all about great action, kick-ass robots from the future and human-robot relationships.

I mean, the whole basis of the story of Interstellar was crap. Future mankind finds a way to contact their former selves and save them from something that never killed them in the first place. But did. Or didn't. It's just all so far fetched to point of being totally gimmicky. And Nolan has been doing this shit since inception. Since then everything he does is full of "leaps". Ridiculous leaps, that he seems to think makes him a genius and people lap it up. We're all supposed to go "Wow, THAT'S the truth" every 15 minutes, apparently.

Give me a proper action film like Terminator every day of the week. If you're going for a complex plot, make sure it isn't crap.
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Inception is a genius piece of movie, Usual suspect is a genius movie, Interstellar was a smart movie at best, and when people say genius i reckon it's because he has the mind to come up with something new and entertaining, it doesn't mean that he's a genius because Inception is the new discovery that saves the world.

Besides, Terminator was also crap and I can pick plotholes in anything (send a cyborg earlier and kill Sarah instead of John? Or send a cyborg to kill Sarah's mum?)

And Interstellar wasn't an action movie, it's a scifi drama. If you want action, probably you should just watch fury, but then again, you'd probably complain about the drama aspect when you watched fury...

some people just can't be happy
 
Sky1981 said:
How can any movie about Time Travel be watertight? There's too many paradoxes of time that no amount of computer or mind can comprehend.

The closest things to a time travel movie that as close as reality is the simpson treehouse of terror episode where Homer got teleported back into the time machine.

People should stop comparing Interstellar with science, it's a movie and not a new theorem on relativity, it's just A M-O-V-I-E
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So we should praise the movie no matter what? They should just have said "AND THEN TIME TRAVEL SAVED THE WORLD. THE END." and been done with it.
 
Sky1981 said:
Inception is a genius piece of movie, Usual suspect is a genius movie, Interstellar was a smart movie at best, and when people say genius i reckon it's because he has the mind to come up with something new and entertaining, it doesn't mean that he's a genius because Inception is the new discovery that saves the world.

Besides, Terminator was also crap and I can pick plotholes in anything (send a cyborg earlier and kill Sarah instead of John? Or send a cyborg to kill Sarah's mum?)

And Interstellar wasn't an action movie, it's a scifi drama. If you want action, probably you should just watch fury, but then again, you'd probably complain about the drama aspect when you watched fury...

some people just can't be happy
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There you go. Interstella is all about its (ropey) story. Terminator wasn't. I don't knit pick with Terminator because it wasn't all about trying to give me some crazy twist every 5 minutes. The story was simple but as an action movie it was excellent.

Interstella is about that but doesn't do it very well.

Liking Interstella=happiness? Ok.
 
Inception was a genius peice of movie?

Maybe you meant to type The Godfather.
 
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amolbhatia100 said:
There you go. Interstella is all about its (ropey) story. Terminator wasn't. I don't knit pick with Terminator because it wasn't all about trying to give me some crazy twist every 5 minutes. The story was simple but as an action movie it was excellent.

Interstella is about that but doesn't do it very well.

Liking Interstella=happiness? Ok.
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Interstellar definitely doesn't try to 'give a twist every 5 minutes' though.
 
Cina said:
Those aren't mountains!
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That's not quite a plot twist though, is it? I mean not in the way you'd usually refer to 'plot twist' in that it changes the interpretation of loads of things that have happened before. Or if that's a 'plot twist', then most films are full of them, Terminator included.
 
Rooney in Dublin said:
That's not quite a plot twist though, is it? I mean not in the way you'd usually refer to 'plot twist' in that it changes the interpretation of loads of things that have happened before. Or if that's a 'plot twist', then most films are full of them, Terminator included.
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I obviously wasn't being serious you big plonker. That bit in the film made me laugh so hard though, of course they weren't mountains for feck sake.
 
Cina said:
In your opinion.

In the opinion of many it's bang average.

I reckon it would've been really good if he kept it under two hours long, there was so much crap in it.
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No my opinion is that it's my favourite movie, ever.

That docking scene was just spectacular. I can't think of a scene from recent history to better it.
 
Cina said:
In your opinion.

In the opinion of many it's bang average.

I reckon it would've been really good if he kept it under two hours long, there was so much crap in it.
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To be honest, I haven't read THAT many reviews saying it was bang average. There have been a few on here though the overall feeling was a bit more positive I feel. On this other forum I'm on (this is the entertainment forum equivalent of 'my scouse friend') they were much more positive than on here. Loved it to bits.
 
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