Internationals March (Euro Qualifiers)

It wasn’t comfortable. England were dominated by a not very good Italy side for the whole of the second half. That’s my point. It’s basic enough. Feels like I’ve repeated it way more than I should have.

If being dominated is not having a to make a save in 45 minutes of football, half of which is with 10 men, fair enough. It was as comfortable as I’ve ever been playing Italy.

you’ve been watching too much of Ireland mate.
 
Except they won so it was more of a potential shart which turned out to be a referees fart misallocated.

I wait to see the new application on time wasting rigorously applied across the board.

not.

Shaw’s first yellow card was extremely harsh. The sending off didn’t really change the pattern of the game though. Which had completely flipped from the first half long before Shaw got his second booking.
 
Shaw’s first yellow card was extremely harsh. The sending off didn’t really change the pattern of the game though. Which had completely flipped from the first half long before Shaw got his second booking.

Just for the record how many times has any referee booked so many players so quickly for time wasting? I have watched way worse "game management" and no such flurry of daffodils.

There is a foul in the first half where the Italian defender goes to ground doesn't get the ball, gets the man and its a clear yellow and isn't booked but Shaw gets sent off standing on his feet with the ball there to be won. A foul yes a second booking is deeply questionable especially given the number of counter attacks Italy stopped by deliberate fouls in the first half.

Anyway we won move on and build on the last thirty minutes of the first half which was excellent. Italy were lucky Grealish missed just before half time and the ref had an crazy alternative agenda.
 
If being dominated is not having a to make a save in 45 minutes of football, half of which is with 10 men, fair enough. It was as comfortable as I’ve ever been playing Italy.

you’ve been watching too much of Ireland mate.
What is all this about my poor country :(. We are awful and we know it.

I actually agree a bit with both of you to be fair England stopped really playing after HT but Italy didn’t really threaten so much. Overall comfortable or not a win in Italy is always a good result
 
The parts I have seen in between the darts were nothing impressive from England. So nothing new really
 
The parts I have seen in between the darts were nothing impressive from England. So nothing new really
England were very impressive in the first half, they could easily have been 3-4 up, second half was poor but Italy weren't that good and didn't really threaten the goal much
 
Amazing scenes with the crowd and the team in Buenos Aires
 
Bruno gets subbed at 90th minute and they were leading 4-0. So stupid. Stop playing him Martin, stooopppp
 
Bruno gets subbed at 90th minute and they were leading 4-0. So stupid
The guy never gets injured so is always available yet he never gets rested either. He literally has the most minutes in the top 5 leagues than any other player and the crazy thing is that includes keepers
 
What has happened to international football? There used to be a time where I’d be bouncing up and down right now with my heart racing. At the final whistle, I just thought “Cool, when’s the next premier league match?”
It was an early qualifier for a competition in the future.

Like it or not the Euro's and World Cup are still bigger than anything else in the game.
 
When was this?! United was always bigger than intl footie for me, to the point where I wanted players to fake injuries so they could be ready for Fergie

There's no bigger prize in football other than the World Cup and that includes players desires as well. It's really sad as a supposed football fan you exclude yourself from enjoying the biggest football tournament by absolute miles. How odd.
 
Peak Messi free kick masterclass.
5 free kicks - 2 saves, 2 crossbars and a goal

 
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Thanks for the video @GifLord ; a sight to behold. Those two hitting the crossbars were insane! The latter one reminds me of his FK against liverpool.
 
If you remember that then you're fecking old because it was in 1961 :)
As some have pointed out it was actually a draw and not a win. However we still qualified. I remember a Christian Vieri header right at the death which went wide by the narrowest margin.
 
Could Hasselbaink have the same effect on England forwards as Benni has had on Marcus
 
Players' faces. :lol:

I was inundated with messages and posts on social media from Italian friends and colleagues after they beat us in the final, how England were terrible sports and extremely disrespectful after taking off their runners up medals, and the Queen leaving early. I wonder if I should have a chat with some of them this morning.
 
So most of our team ate some sus chicken and is out with a stumach bug. Geertruida to make his debut against Mbappe :nervous:
 
I reckon Marcus would have scored a couple last night. Grealish has got to be the most overrated players of all time.
 
nah @DomesticTadpole and I both noted he was not very good.

I was expecting more than an accurate corner if I’m honest and him being ‘heavily involved’ in someone missing a sitter.

No agenda here. Just a working set of eyes.
Mate from the outside, you are a fiend on the Arsenal thread for some strange reason, clear agenda, but whatever.

Phillips and Grealish were both far worse, particularly the latter. I think for Saka to have one of his quieter games yet still be involved in all key moments of the game says a lot about him. Sadly, Maguire was involved in all of Italys key moments. I hate the OTT flack he gets, but this performance summed him up.

Rashford replacing Grealish will make a big difference to this England side.
 
The Italian anthem was far worse for me with the weird remix and the tosser singing it with his hand in his pocket.
 
Mate from the outside, you are a fiend on the Arsenal thread for some strange reason, clear agenda, but whatever.

Phillips and Grealish were both far worse, particularly the latter. I think for Saka to have one of his quieter games yet still be involved in all key moments of the game says a lot about him. Sadly, Maguire was involved in all of Italys key moments. I hate the OTT flack he gets, but this performance summed him up.

Rashford replacing Grealish will make a big difference to this England side.

I find it more strange a Bolton fan has taken so much issue with me (and others I might add) suggesting Saka was poor. Not only that but you’ve been noting my posts in the Arsenal thread and suggest I have an agenda for giving an opinion.

You seem to omit my post saying I hope we see Rashford Kane and Saka playing together as it’s something we haven’t seen yet and I feel it would be pretty formidable.

You joined last night and have two posts, both of which are in this thread, complaining about Saka being criticised and complaining I’m a fiend in the Arsenal thread. Interesting for a Bolton fan!

The irony here is it seems to be you who has an agenda…
 
Mate from the outside, you are a fiend on the Arsenal thread for some strange reason, clear agenda, but whatever.

Phillips and Grealish were both far worse, particularly the latter. I think for Saka to have one of his quieter games yet still be involved in all key moments of the game says a lot about him. Sadly, Maguire was involved in all of Italys key moments. I hate the OTT flack he gets, but this performance summed him up.

Rashford replacing Grealish will make a big difference to this England side.
Phillips was so far off the pace, he was being outpaced easily. Maguire made the error fir Italys goal but apart from that he was average. I'd like to see Rashford, Kane and Saka play together. That might be fun.
 
I find it more strange a Bolton fan has taken so much issue with me (and others I might add) suggesting Saka was poor. Not only that but you’ve been noting my posts in the Arsenal thread and suggest I have an agenda for giving an opinion.

You seem to omit my post saying I hope we see Rashford Kane and Saka playing together as it’s something we haven’t seen yet and I feel it would be pretty formidable.

You joined last night and have two posts, both of which are in this thread, complaining about Saka being criticised and complaining I’m a fiend in the Arsenal thread. Interesting for a Bolton fan!

The irony here is it seems to be you who has an agenda…
I have read the forum for some time. I just find it funny that you don't admit your issues with Arsenal/Saka last night. England have some great young players, half the team were not great last night and you call out Saka who contributed more than most. I admire Saka a lot, as well as Rashford. Both of them have had such unfair criticism in their careers at different times. Two of the best in the world getting grief off basement dwelling inter-dweebs.

I don't care for Arsenal, don't particularly like/dislike them. We have had some run ins with them in the past, in the Wenger years. I hope they win the PL as it would be a huge achievement and a victory for fair play, but so do a lot of neutrals.
 
Yep, I never said it wasn't a penalty.

The ref was talking to England players from the middle of the first half about slowing the game, I'm all for yellows to back this up.

If it's a consistent approach then I'd agree, but both of the yellows were innocuous, plenty of throw ins in the first half took more time.
 
I have read the forum for some time. I just find it funny that you don't admit your issues with Arsenal/Saka last night. England have some great young players, half the team were not great last night and you call out Saka who contributed more than most. I admire Saka a lot, as well as Rashford. Both of them have had such unfair criticism in their careers at different times. Two of the best in the world getting grief off basement dwelling inter-dweebs.

I don't care for Arsenal, don't particularly like/dislike them. We have had some run ins with them in the past, in the Wenger years. I hope they win the PL as it would be a huge achievement and a victory for fair play, but so do a lot of neutrals.

If I had an issue with Saka I wouldn’t be championing him playing with Kane and Rashford for England. That doesn’t mean I can’t say he’s poor when I think he’s poor.

You arsenal fans :lol:
 
If I had an issue with Saka I wouldn’t be championing him playing with Kane and Rashford for England. That doesn’t mean I can’t say he’s poor when I think he’s poor.

You arsenal fans :lol:
He was poorer than most would have been expecting. He is not playing with his usual teammates and it would not have helped that Grealish on the other side had an even worse game.