You're right, I don't think any of us have a problem with individuals like yourself not being interested in the Women's team or the women's game in general. That's absolutely fine, and the same as me not caring for cricket or golf.It's OK to say you have no interest in a sport pal. It doesn't say anything about you as a person. Good or bad.
Obviously different for the owners of our club as womens football is a part of it. They have a responsibility to it. I just don't think it's a big deal that he doesn't visit the women's team personally or have a personal interest in it.
I don’t think it matters if he visits the men or not either. Just get on with it I say.
Against my better judgement, I have to pick you up on this.It's OK to say you have no interest in a sport pal.
You can literally do both, it doesn’t have to be one or the other. The amount of money ineos are wasting there’s no excuses.He's got every right to focus on the men's team, that's the main breadwinner and ultimately the more money that team brings in, the more money there will be for the club as a whole, ergo the woman's team.
Shouldn't be controversial to say that.
Also, for the last poster who stated that United didn't spend anything in January, they actually did, albeit only on one transfer, but after the outlay from the summer not much was really required.
I won't resort to name calling, as there is an obvious difference of opinion here, which is no one's fault - we're all different and that keeps life interesting.I always find it interesting that those who bang loudest about the rights of some are the quickest to diminish others.
Tesco checkout workers earn their company money. The company depends on them. Is this the bit where I call you a plum in return?
Against my better judgement, I have to pick you up on this.
I presume you like football, specifically Manchester United? And that football is a sport? So what you are really saying is that women's football is not a sport?
Of course you are free to air your own views.
I won't resort to name calling, as there is an obvious difference of opinion here, which is no one's fault - we're all different and that keeps life interesting.
That being said, I do feel you've missed the point a little. To use your Tesco analogy, the CEO visits stores from time to time and sure, they might not know the name of young Joe Bloggs on checkouts. But they should know the name of the store manager they are there to meet shouldn't they? That's the equivalency being discussed here. Tesco is also much, much, much bigger than United! There's, what, five or six captains in the entire club? Men, women and some youth. Not too much to ask, even if they don't particularly care that much?
I get that, I do. I've been a United fan since the early 90s (born late 80s, I got very lucky with our success!) I didn't know a women's team existed until it was disbanded by the Glazers in 2005. To be completely honest, I first attended women's games because it was affordable and accessible, which Old Trafford and the men largely isn't. So my United history is very much men's team, Class of '92, Oooh Aah Cantona, '99 and everything since.No not saying that at all. Of course it's a sport, I've just no interest in it. Like I haven't lots of other sports. I want the club to concentrate 100% on the men's team. That's what I've followed since I was a kid. What I care about.
I get that, I do. I've been a United fan since the early 90s (born late 80s, I got very lucky with our success!) I didn't know a women's team existed until it was disbanded by the Glazers in 2005. To be completely honest, I first attended women's games because it was affordable and accessible, which Old Trafford and the men largely isn't. So my United history is very much men's team, Class of '92, Oooh Aah Cantona, '99 and everything since.
But of interest though, do you have any interest in the academy teams? The youth is just as, if not more, important as the men's given the financial state of the club, not to mention our own history with (to borrow a phrase) youth, courage and success.
One of the amazing things about our women's team is that those traditions that date back to Busby and beyond are honoured there too, with academy graduates Ella Toone, Millie Turner, Gabby George and until last summer Katie Zelem playing key roles for us. Just a few weeks ago we had a 17 year old Maired Griffiths come on as a sub for her debut and score two goals. If that's not pure Manchester United I don't know what is.
I'm not trying to convince you to watch or pay an interest to the women's team, there's only so much time in the day after all and let's face it - the games often clash (thanks Sky et. al.) but the women's team should be acknowledged as being as much a Man United team as any other. Particularly by those in charge of the club!
Yeah I watch the U21's and U18's when I can. Have done for years.
But you can't force an interest. Sport after all is a spectator sport, we watch it for enjoyment and get to choose what we enjoy. That's the point of it. It's a hobby. There isn't an obligation and sometimes I feel women's football is veering that way. Almost a societal pressure to watch and enjoy it.
I don’t know too much about how it all works but as far as I'm aware the club does support the women's team. The whole thing is ultimately subsidised and will be for decades to come.
I don’t think this needs to be another hammer to batter the club and Ratcliffe with. Plenty of other more valid hammers to use.
How does that manifest itself in real life?
But it is just that, it's a hammer to batter the club with and it doesn't need to be. Unlike most of the hammers this isn't about saving money, financial regulations or improving performance in the men's team.I don’t think this needs to be another hammer to batter the club and Ratcliffe with. Plenty of other more valid hammers to use.
Because National League players are not, by definition, the best players in their sport. The WSL is the top division, the players play at world cups. Unless you don't want women's sport of any kind to be talked about because men tend to be better at it, I'm not sure what your point is.The disproportionate amount of coverage relative to how popular it actually is. Similar or lower attendance figures to the National League even though tickets are half the price. But when I open the Sky Sports App I don't see National League news front and centre. Nor do I see National League players working as pundits.
Equally take a look here at some of the bristling responses to somebody saying they're not interested. If I said I wasn't interested in cricket or men's netball nobody would be one bit bothered.
It's clearly being pushed beyond its actual popularity and I get that. Some things need a leg up. But the club and Ratcliffe don't need a battering for their efforts. Some here deciding it says everything about Ratcliffes character. Ridiculous stuff.
The disproportionate amount of coverage relative to how popular it actually is. Similar or lower attendance figures to the National League even though tickets are half the price. But when I open the Sky Sports App I don't see National League news front and centre. Nor do I see National League players working as pundits.
Equally take a look here at some of the bristling responses to somebody saying they're not interested. If I said I wasn't interested in cricket or men's netball nobody would be one bit bothered.
It's clearly being pushed beyond its actual popularity and I get that. Some things need a leg up. But the club and Ratcliffe don't need a battering for their efforts. Some here deciding it says everything about Ratcliffes character. Ridiculous stuff.
I think you're forgetting that Sky are a business. Women's football is cheap and as well as being watched by some fans of men's football, it attracts a new audience. It's a cheap way to broaden the viewer base for adverts. According to Sky's market research it helps them retain customers - though like tennis and the darts etc it doesn't get them new ones on its own.The disproportionate amount of coverage relative to how popular it actually is. Similar or lower attendance figures to the National League even though tickets are half the price. But when I open the Sky Sports App I don't see National League news front and centre. Nor do I see National League players working as pundits.
Equally take a look here at some of the bristling responses to somebody saying they're not interested. If I said I wasn't interested in cricket or men's netball nobody would be one bit bothered.
It's clearly being pushed beyond its actual popularity and I get that. Some things need a leg up. But the club and Ratcliffe don't need a battering for their efforts. Some here deciding it says everything about Ratcliffes character. Ridiculous stuff.
I totally agree with you here. Calling the women "ladies" was innocuous but perhaps misguided or ill-judged. The players themselves call the others girls in interviews. And then there's the Doncaster Belles in Division 1.I don’t think this needs to be another hammer to batter the club and Ratcliffe with. Plenty of other more valid hammers to use.
Well then why don’t you go into the caf’s cricket or netball thread and tell everyone that you’re not interested in those sports? Maybe it’s just me, but it seems weird that you’d come into a thread on United Women just to say that you’re not interested in women’s football.Equally take a look here at some of the bristling responses to somebody saying they're not interested. If I said I wasn't interested in cricket or men's netball nobody would be one bit bothered.
