Nobody at the club cares about being number 1. We have Solksjear in charge. It’s as clear as that. I don’t know why you are so optimistic
Probability makes sure you have football structure and managers like Pep in charge. Possibility and gambling is exactly what we do best.
Nobody at the club cares about being number 1. We have Solksjear in charge. It’s as clear as that. I don’t know why you are so optimistic
Probability makes sure you have football structure and managers like Pep in charge. Possibility and gambling is exactly what we do best.
Brilliant! So even if Ole improves us ten fold and wins the league it’s because everyone else is awful.
well that's exactly the case with Internet forums isn't it? You "type a shit out" listing arguments which support your opinion.
If you think throwing youtube videos is the way to discuss football, then fair enough but I'm not even getting into the debate.
You will probably find a video showing Tom Cleverly passing skills, Antonio Valencia left foot magic and De Gea coming of his line compilation. It doesn't mean it happens regularly so means exactly nothing.
You don't even need to go that far, let me ask you - how do you rate Martial? He must be one of our most important players, here's a video of his amazing skills:
Video posted on the same day as the video you provided, so I guess it's as good as any.
There were a few teams where a team cohesion and system elevated them very significantly — even though every successful team would have individually brilliant players.
I just dont see it this way. Just because we dont play like City doesnt mean how we play is deficient. Liverpool didnt even resemble a City side and dominated the league last year.
I don't think it's the goal itself, it's more a way how teams move the ball, create space for fullbacks to overlap, or islolate defenders to challenge them 1v1. There are some teams that do it very well (City, Leipzig), there are some which football is based on it rather than individual brilliance (Leicester, Leeds, Brighton) and there are teams who mostly rely on individual brilliance and have those moments of good play. I'd say we fall into the latter category, for multiple reasons really but I think this team has much more potential than it's showing.
But we are not a counter attacking team. Just because we are good at it doesn't mean it's our "style of play" or that we don't dominate the ball in most games - not necessarily because we want to, but also because the opposition is happy to sit back and that's where we seem to rely on individuals to bail us out. Which is not wrong at all, but I feel we are a bit too reliant on it this season.
We struggle to break down teams that play a low defensive line. Nobody is refuting that, and neither did I in my post. It's not a new problem. If teams don't set up to nullify us, we can dismantle any team in the league going forward.
No, missed every single game but felt compelled to give my opinion anyway.
I'm saying we have patterns of play and there are moments when we play it right, but more often than not we rely on individual brilliance. This is exactly what I said in previous posts and you don't need to tell me "what you're saying".
We got 3 points from two games against Leipzig. Good for us, but guess who is still playing in Champions League despite being beaten by 5 goals by us first leg. You are right, I like how they play. It seems to me like they are overachieving when you look at squad quality, which is what happens under a good coaching staff and what we should aspire to - whatever the style we choose.
This is some imaginary battle you're fighting because I've never said that.
I said we are not a counter attacking side, so what kind of twisted logic is that? City are possession based team because they tend to have 60-70% of the ball 9/10 games, and it clearly suits them as they have no problem winning games playing that style.
Exactly how I see it, especially the bolded part. It's shocking for me how many people seem to think the only way to improve is to buy better players.
Of course it's down to individual brilliance. If having players of superior quality didn't matter, then we would be talking about Ajax, Leipzig etc as being the best teams in the world because their systems elevate the sum of their parts to a greater degree than most teams, you could argue.
I've filmed a couple of Bieslas training sessions when he was at Leeds, of course they work on ways to say get the ball up the pitch or break down a defence, but nobody there ever spoke about 'patterns of play' simply put I don't think its a real thing, or at least its not a term used in the professional settings i've seen. I think its just one of those Caf phrases that becomes so loose in its definition it basically ends up meaningless.
It is indeed!
do you honestly think that rashford and Bruno get into so many scoring postings due to luck or purely just being in the right place at the right time by chance?
Set the record for la Liga goals.
Ran him out cos that's how it went, doesn't change what that team did for one season
I'm sure there's an award for that somewhere
Maybe they do use different terminology but I’ve seen managers use it in post interviews, pundits use it in breakdowns and so on so certainly the term pattern of play wasn’t invented on the Caf.
Of course, is that even a debate? Did I say anywhere "individual quality doesn't matter"?
Where did that stat come from?
Bielsa is Argentinian isn't he? Maybe you heard something like "patrones de juego"?
I replied to a guy who said we we're fine because we've scored most goals this season, but when you apply the "context" you'll see that we're having mixed season as you said. Not great, not terrible - similar to how I rate our coaching staff.
Of course manager won't improve any player, but the point of this discussion is I believe we are a team of good players and good coaching will improve us more than spending a lot of cash on individuals. Buying our way out of trouble so to speak can not be a long-term strategy for a few reasons, so we need to focus on what we have.
But again, the original post I was referring to said we've scored the highest number of goals in the league, while the reality is we've won most games by a single goal. This is another sidetrack of the discussion.
Please don't make up things, or show me exactly where I said anything about us being better/worse. Again you mixed into this discussion ignoring what post I was replying to, so I'm not getting into that. It's not even related closely to the original argument.
