That is the thing bro, people are racist. We just need to look around, leave look around, just look within us.
And media which are nowadays basically PR of political parties and play their roles accordingly
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That is the thing bro, people are racist. We just need to look around, leave look around, just look within us.
And media which are nowadays basically PR of political parties and play their roles accordingly
Classic case of selective blindness. No one condoned criminal behaviour here. Find someone else to fight with.
What are they saying in the video?
There are crazies in every religion. It's nothing to do with the religion itself but people using it for their own gains. I say politicians using it for their own gains. It's the same in Muslim majority countries too.
They are saying it's written in Quran that Coronavirus will come and kill infidels and won't harm Muslim. They should spread it as much as possible.
It's not representative of anything, I just posted because someone else posted another random video of some idiot saying horrible things.
The scary part with each day it becomes completely difficult to keep your points. Either you will be termed a sanghi or a deshdrohi. Intolerant fools.
These guys are getting cases filed against them under the epidemic act right left and center. Do you see that happening consistently all across?
Which section of the video said that exactly? Timestamp?
Corona has been mentioned in the Quran and we are not scared of it because death can come anywhere. We know it spreads and it will take away those people who commit crimes on us. It will bring more diseases which Modi doesn't know.
Typical stuff you would expect religious fanatics to say. Be it christians, hindus or muslims.
I don't understand the point here.
Visa was cancelled because they didn't follow the visa rule. This in addition to the fact that they have put lives of millions in danger.
Health care workers are being stone pelted and abused in Indore. There is a video in which one lady health care is so scared to enter the area again. Do you think they should not be punished? I am yet to see any locality doing that.
In Bihar, bullets were fired against health care workers when they came searching for suspected cases. They are yet to be booked.
In Gaziabad , 6 TJ members were misbehaving with nurses and passing lewd comments and openly flouting hospital rules and endangering other people lives. Should they not be booked?
I don't understand the point you are making. People should be booked just to even out even if they haven't done anything?
Selective blindness is if you share videos of the provoked without explaining what provoked them. If you don't condemn this then you're condoning it. Don't let your prejudice stop you from calling out idiocy.
I don't understand. What more do you want?
As for other 'societies', here you go. Just because you aren't seeing it doesn't mean it's not happening.
These guys have been booked and blacklisted.
There's a case registered against them too if I recall correctly.
As for other 'societies', here you go. Just because you aren't seeing it doesn't mean it's not happening.
Booked already.
People are literally flouting the lockdown rules and are liable to be booked under the epidemic act. One guy is doing a membership drive, religious gatherings in WB and what not. Endangering the lives of million others? Or only one set of people need to be booked?
Not everyone is getting booked is the reason why I mentioned Bihar event. Kanika Kapoor was booked. Wife of Google employee who fled to Agra was booked. Multiple people especially in Bangalore have been booked. Just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean its not happening. There is nothing sinister about booking and it is definitely not based on religion lines. This is life and death matter for everyone. Virus won't discriminate. Let's not get into this trivial issue.
The reason why I posted video was just because you posted a random video.
Idiocy is when you expect people to sit and condemn every nonsense happening in the country. Unlike you, not everyone is on a constant lookout to find something/someone to hate.
It's basically a mosque, always has been for centuries. It became a centre for the TJ group nearly a century ago. I'm not sure which came first the mosque or the Dargah. However, the trustees or the family running the affairs of the Mosque have been affiliated with the work of the group since the start.
Wasn't that woman booked incorrectly because the 'news channels' outraged over it?
And I have seen all that. In none of those cases, neither their background was demonised, nor other people. Herein lies the difference.
Makes sense, thanks.
What a bunch of imbeciles. There is nothing of that sort written in the Quran or anything for that matter.
You are saying the below note form Quran is not 1400 year old
"Stay at your home if there is a pandemic. If you are outside your home, stay in that country and don't go to your home, till the pandemic is over"
Sad but totally expected that some Indian would politicise/communalise covid19: largely from fundamentalist hindu's beating the anti Islam drum.
Expected because Modi has awoken such sentiments since December last year.
Pathetic. But like always, I don't expect any BJP cadre to be punished for such behaviour.
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You are saying the below note form Quran is not 1400 year old
"Stay at your home if there is a pandemic. If you are outside your home, stay in that country and don't go to your home, till the pandemic is over"
They are saying it's written in Quran that Coronavirus will come and kill infidels and won't harm Muslim. They should spread it as much as possible.
This is what I commented on.
Frustrating that the views of a tiny few are being used to represent the vast majority who vehemently disagree. One of the reasons I hate social media: gives a platform for loons, who message is spread around by those with nefarious agenda or just for lolz.
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Bangladesh got the military on the streets now. I really feel for all the day labourers who were surviving day to day before this shit.
The BBC would give time to the crazy chap from Hiz.
They have strong enough immune systems to defend against covid19. Its hunger/starvation that will kill them.
Also another thought: cities like Mumbai, Delhi, Dhaka have loads of stray dogs on the streets. Now everything is in lockdown, presumably there are no scraps for them to live off? So they all also die of hunger too? And when die en masse, and copses start to rot in the heat ....
The veiled ladies are naive in their views. Taking the necessary precautions is emphasised in Islam.
I quote
“One day Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), noticed a Bedouin leaving his camel without tying it. He asked the Bedouin, ‘Why don’t you tie down your camel?’ The Bedouin answered, ‘I put my trust in Allāh’ The Prophet then said, ‘Tie your camel first, then put your trust in Allāh’.
Whenever there is a problem, a challenge, or any hardship which we can remove, overcome, solve, or minimise, we must do so. Many of the health guidelines given by the Ministry of Health are in fact normal practices for Muslims, some of which are as follows:-
1. Washing hands: this is a part of ablution, a Muslim’s daily ritual of purity.
2. General cleanliness: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Cleanliness is part of faith”. Keeping our surroundings tidy, cleaning up after ourselves, and wiping surfaces down are all aspects of cleanliness which must be adhered to in these situations.
3. Covering your mouth when sneezing; The Prophet would cover his mouth when he sneezed. This basic etiquette can take a big part in the stopping of the spread of viruses. “Whenever the Messenger of Allāh (PBUH) sneezed, he would cover his mouth with his hand or a piece of cloth.”
4. Quarantine in times of viruses which can spread; The Prophet gave instructions on what to do if there is an outbreak. Abd al-Rahmān ibn ‘Awf said: “I heard the Messenger of Allāh (PBUH) say: “If you hear that (the plague) is in a land, do not go there, and if it breaks out in a land where you are, do not leave, fleeing from it.”.
I quote
“One day Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), noticed a Bedouin leaving his camel without tying it. He asked the Bedouin, ‘Why don’t you tie down your camel?’ The Bedouin answered, ‘I put my trust in Allāh’ The Prophet then said, ‘Tie your camel first, then put your trust in Allāh’.
Whenever there is a problem, a challenge, or any hardship which we can remove, overcome, solve, or minimise, we must do so. Many of the health guidelines given by the Ministry of Health are in fact normal practices for Muslims, some of which are as follows:-
1. Washing hands: this is a part of ablution, a Muslim’s daily ritual of purity.
2. General cleanliness: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Cleanliness is part of faith”. Keeping our surroundings tidy, cleaning up after ourselves, and wiping surfaces down are all aspects of cleanliness which must be adhered to in these situations.
3. Covering your mouth when sneezing; The Prophet would cover his mouth when he sneezed. This basic etiquette can take a big part in the stopping of the spread of viruses. “Whenever the Messenger of Allāh (PBUH) sneezed, he would cover his mouth with his hand or a piece of cloth.”
4. Quarantine in times of viruses which can spread; The Prophet gave instructions on what to do if there is an outbreak. Abd al-Rahmān ibn ‘Awf said: “I heard the Messenger of Allāh (PBUH) say: “If you hear that (the plague) is in a land, do not go there, and if it breaks out in a land where you are, do not leave, fleeing from it.”.
If I'm not wrong, those ladies were from shaheen bagh and they were questioned about corona and their plans to vacate the place, well before the lockdown. Basically bravado to stay put and continue their protest.
Yeah right.
In another update, this just happened. Hazard of working on the frontlines
https://www.ndtv.com/mumbai-news/co...airport-test-positive-for-coronavirus-2205806
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facts don’t matter. Propaganda sells.
Which is why the police/doctors/workers in the frontlines would appreciate the supply of masks, sanitizers and stuff and announcements/promises on those lines, rather than banging thalis and lighting lamps.
Before Nizamuddim, we had social media full of jokes of cow urine, cow dung and even Junta Curfew which wasn't religious, being mocked as a Hindu festival.
For example Chakrapani the one who organised Gaumutra party is not a leader of Hindus, but whatever he does or says, is held as a tool against Hindus.
Christian social media and political figures from Northeast were mocking Hindus, and even now some people are associating 5April's 9min nautanki with Hindusim. So I don't get it why it is only communal and racist, when it is Muslims in the recieving end, and when it is Hindu, it is just a joke or valid criticism.
Communalism isn't just one way, unless we address it, you won't stop seeing hatred among people for one another.
But there has been announcement on supply of PPE and masks by Health Ministry, ordering 1.5 crores, unless you mean Modi himself should have address so it would reach more people and assure them that government is doing something, which I agree.
Did you just delete your post defending the BJP and how only their fringe hatred/racism/bigotry gets made out to be an issue? Tried finding it to call it out but couldn't.
Regardless, I haven't seen another force in the country with the mandate and power it has, be so distasteful and dangerous in their very ideology. Claiming that it's their fringe elements is nothing short of a lie. With them, it isn't the fringe. It is the fringe spreading the core message of the Leadership who can pretend to be followers of Gandhi meanwhile. If you like these core values of fascism, authoritarianism, bigotry and hatred for Muslims, goal of Hindu Rashtra, misinformation, anti intellectual mindset etc then good for you I suppose. But let's not pretend this is a fringe element thing.
And I believe in this post you mentioned that this is a bias against Hinduism. Simply put, not it isn't. I'm Hindu as are all my loved ones and friends/family. I'm against this political misuse and polluting of Hinduism called Hindutva. There's a difference which society is slowly blurring due to the misinformation campaign of the IT cell.
Communalism has always been a part of our society. But the BJP has emboldened it and actively promoted it creating a larger and growing divide instead of a shrinking one. Hence you can expect to only see things get worse from here on given they've buggy backed it to political victories and achieve their cultural ambitions. Muslims will only become more marginalised and possibly prone to radicalisation. The image of Hindus due to Hindutva sadly will only get worse. It's not looking good at all.
You should convert to Christianity and settle down in Alabama. In no time, you'll be elected to the house or a Senate as a republican
Nah, I will not fit in the with the conservatives. My issue is when i am surrounded by radicals, I always talk about their hypocrisy and when i am surrounded by liberals, i talk about their hypocrisy. So I will neither fit conservatives nor liberals, I will probably be thrown away as someone who is dual personality.
But question is BJP the only one who does it? Because we have seen, that many things Hindu is being demonized by a section of media. Yes I am not denying BJP is exploiting it and has created this divide, actually not created just highlighted, because this divide was always their.
we need a opposition whether politicians or media/activists who are actually secular and not minority pleasing ones. Because that is the only way we can distract the people from communal talk, and debate should be more about the mismanagement and incompetence of the BJP government. But I don't see opposition doing that, they are playing hand in hand with this communal debate.
You don't have to be a nut job, you would just do well with your false equivalency
This minority appeasement nonsense has seeped in to so many debates due to misinformation. No one has heard facts of "minority appeasement".
Obviously aside from the most stark stupidity of that argument, that you don't reverse this "appeasement" (even if true) by then pandering to the majority to "level" things off.
Its propaganda working at ita finest
Obviously aside from the most stark stupidity of that argument, that you don't reverse this "appeasement" (even if true) by then pandering to the majority to "level" things off.
Its propaganda working at ita finest
you're a star , Stan. Sorry, but the wryness of that statement