India politics thread

Today, everything is dominated by a hard-nosed, hard-Hindutva thinking. And the President, Prime Minister, the leadership are all Hindu. But if you compare that to a dozen years ago, 2007, let’s say, we had a Muslim President, a Sikh Prime Minister, a Christian leader of the ruling party. The majority of the parliamentarians were Hindu, but they were not trying to impose their way of thinking over everyone. And that’s what’s happened.

And now we are suddenly in a position where you can chastise a Muslim for eating beef, which is also very nonclassical. If you go to the very old Sanskrit documents, like the Vedas, there is nothing prohibiting the eating of beef. So there is a decline not only from secularism and democracy in post-independence India but also in the understanding of the heritage even of Hindu India.
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Amartya Sen’s Hopes and Fears for Indian Democracy
By Isaac Chotiner The New Yorker Interview October 6, 2019

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/amartya-sens-hopes-and-fears-for-indian-democracy
 
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India Today Aaj Tak one of the most popular news channel here wanting to incite riots by writing islamophobhic headlines and doing debates.
 
fishfingers15 said:
What does it say?
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Basically, the place (Ayodhya and the mosque / temple land) is ours, Ram is ours. Where did the guys who made the Masjid come from? Ie. why are they here in India

I thought the US was in the dumps but home is as bad
 
NM said:
Basically, the place (Ayodhya and the mosque / temple land) is ours, Ram is ours. Where did the guys who made the Masjid come from? Ie. why are they here in India

I thought the US was in the dumps but home is as bad
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feck sake. Bet it's just to see the left and liberals squirm. :wenger:
 
milemuncher777 said:


Another one.

Muslim free India
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How do they plan to remove 200m Muslim Indians? Do they have enough trees to cremate after killing them all? Else where will they all go?

Someone should demand they answer these questions.
 
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NM said:
Basically, the place (Ayodhya and the mosque / temple land) is ours, Ram is ours. Where did the guys who made the Masjid come from? Ie. why are they here in India

I thought the US was in the dumps but home is as bad
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Oh it's worse here. At least your institutions are strong and keep the clown prince of Washington in check. Ours, on the other hand, are being dismantled by our dear leader.
 
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Blair, Rice, Gates, Howard.
Modi, Kissinger.

Unironically India has advanced on the word stage under Modi, being slightly ahead of the curve of winning nationalism.
 
Is this a recent incident?

These incidents seem to be happening on a daily basis. WTF is wrong with these people?


 
This video was heartbreaking. Something needs to be done about these mob lynchings and it pains me to see it happen and knowing that the perpetrators will probably get away with it too since the police force does not do their job properly and even if they do, it takes several years and a lot of money to fight the case in courts. This is also the reason that people in a mob feel emboldened as they know nothing will probably get done about it. Our police and our judicial system is a mess and has been for my lifetime.

Also, no need to put a communal ring on everything.
 
Bestie07 said:
This video was heartbreaking. Something needs to be done about these mob lynchings and it pains me to see it happen and knowing that the perpetrators will probably get away with it too since the police force does not do their job properly and even if they do, it takes several years and a lot of money to fight the case in courts. This is also the reason that people in a mob feel emboldened as they know nothing will probably get done about it. Our police and our judicial system is a mess and has been for my lifetime.

Also, no need to put a communal ring on everything.
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I didn't :confused:

But that aside, these incidents all seem to be communal and one way?
 
sammsky1 said:
I didn't :confused:

But that aside, these incidents all seem to be communal and one way?
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The tweet you posted said that. I am not even sure why they were hitting the poor old man and it doesn't matter if it was because he worshipped a different God, loved a different country, stole from someone or injured someone. No one should be allowed to get away with this.

Bigger issue for me is that we are unable to do anything about this (or any other mob related incident) because of our law enforcement and judicial system. I honestly don't even know how this is ever going to change.
 
BJP really don't give a feck, do they? They hate all minorities, both religious and linguistic.

One wonders why people voted for them en masse.

Also doesn't help that the Congress projected Rahul Gandhi as the opposition candidate. No charisma, always gives off the vibe of not being interested in politics. Indira Gandhi will be rolling in her grave if she found out about her descendants.
 
VJ1762 said:
BJP really don't give a feck, do they? They hate all minorities, both religious and linguistic.

One wonders why people voted for them en masse.

Also doesn't help that the Congress projected Rahul Gandhi as the opposition candidate. No charisma, always gives off the vibe of not being interested in politics. Indira Gandhi will be rolling in her grave if she found out about her descendants.
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Are there some better candidates for next time?
 
sammsky1 said:
Are there some better candidates for next time?
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That's the problem. The Gandhi's have left no space open up top for any regional leader to come up. Honestly, I really don't know who can topple the BJP in the next 10 years. The future looks bleak. They are more concerned about matters like religion when there are more pressing issues like a falling economy.
 
sammsky1 said:
Anyone here from Delhi? Is this accurate? What impact is it having on your day to day life?
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This has been going on for years bro. It's the multiple factors of getting rid of the winter field cuttings by burning in the Punjab and Haryana, the low pressure front that tends to be prevalent around this time of year and poor people burning anything they can find to stay warm.
 
RedTiger said:
This has been going on for years bro. It's the multiple factors of getting rid of the winter field cuttings by burning in the Punjab and Haryana, the low pressure front that tends to be prevalent around this time of year and poor people burning anything they can find to stay warm.
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Also Diwali fireworks.
 
2cents said:
Also Diwali fireworks.
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A factor yes, but probably contributing to less than 5% of the problem. We banned sale of crackers last year and situation wasn't much better than what it is now. This year people were given just a 2 hour window to burn crackers and while some idiots did burn crackers, that cannot make the situation even close enough to what we are experiencing.
 
RedTiger said:
This has been going on for years bro. It's the multiple factors of getting rid of the winter field cuttings by burning in the Punjab and Haryana, the low pressure front that tends to be prevalent around this time of year and poor people burning anything they can find to stay warm.
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I know it's been going on for years, I was in Delhi just 12 month ago.

The article implies its hitting record levels.
 
anant said:
A factor yes, but probably contributing to less than 5% of the problem. We banned sale of crackers last year and situation wasn't much better than what it is now. This year people were given just a 2 hour window to burn crackers and while some idiots did burn crackers, that cannot make the situation even close enough to what we are experiencing.
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You're in Delhi? How is it now vs last few years? Worse than ever or is the article just reporting old news?
 
anant said:
Just as bad as previous years.
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No its not. I've been in Noida since 2016 and this is the worst I've ever experienced. Its fecking incredible that nothing is being done about this.
 
Suv666 said:
No its not. I've been in Noida since 2016 and this is the worst I've ever experienced. Its fecking incredible that nothing is being done about this.
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Its tough to compare because we tend to downplay how bad stuff was in the past, and I honestly dont think it's much worse than previous years
 
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