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Let's just assume that they were pre planned, and somehow, China/Congress/whoever the trending villain is paid off Rihanna , Mia Khalifa, Greta Thunberg and Meena Harris among countless others.
Let's talk about what they are saying, shall we? Rihanna and Greta Thunberg have posted a CNN article from 1st Feb around what is happening, the other two have just provided their PoV on this. None of these guys have commented on how the bill was passed or whether it should be taken back or whatever. All they've commented on is the fact that these farmers are getting beaten up, have had the right to protest taken away, are being labelled Ani-National, journos getting arrested - basically human rights violations.
Is calling any of that threat to sovereignty? Indians love commenting on humans rights violations in other countries, after all we are reminded of Pakistan's (or Middle East's) human rights record every time we speak anything against the government. Isn't that a threat to their sovereignty. Or commenting on Capitol Hill? Or CAA which literally implies the Human rights violations in neighbouring countries?
Even the people in India, they are criticizing the government - the way they've handled this situation and how they've tried this divide and rule BS once again. And pre-2014, criticizing the government did not mean criticizing the country or the people or anything of that sort.
Parents today:
"Who is this mia trending on twitter today?"
"Who is this mia trending on twitter today?"
"Bloddy mias getting involved in our politics"!
The 36” who broke 56” for a day.
Sovereignty of the nation?
What are you on about?
Did everyone tweeting Black Lives Matter somehow erode the sovereignty of the US?
Kinda sad none of the celebrities tweeted "#GME to the the moon"!
FFS RT
Did it just take one tweet by Rihanna to rattle them? Quite sad state of affairs.
Repubic ran a headline - "Cogress ki kisaan neta Rihanna"
What's even stupider is how all the cricketers in unison followed Amit Shah's rhetoric that "We must united and stand together and solve our own problems, foreigners can't dictate etc" whether it be Kohli, Kumble, Shastri, Sharma or even Sachin (sobs). The level of meddling by the GOI is incredible.
Very grateful Dravid isn’t on Twitter so he can’t disappoint me.
What human rights violation going on in farmer protest?
Don't Google Rahul Dravid RSS and you'll always be happy.
Power and Water supply being cut. https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/01...cut-but-farmers-at-tikri-arent-going-anywhere
BJP goons disguised as locals attacking farmers. https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/02...eople-complain-more-about-police-than-farmers
Internet shutdowns (Considered as human rights violations by the UN) https://mg.co.za/article/2019-02-01-00-internet-shutdowns-violate-human-rights/
Media banned from entering the protest site https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/02...ter-police-bar-entry-to-journalists-at-singhu
Trains being randomly rerouted so protestors can't reach the site. https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...ers-denied-reaching-delhi/article33717453.ece
Although not physical, but the mental agony of a farmer being labelled as a Terrorist or Khalistani. I would consider being called a terrorist by BJP mouthpiece media and 'celebs' like Kangana to be pretty violating.
Is this a serious or a trick question?
You forgot the water cannons and tear gas. File that under the physical agony header. Add the chained barricades and nails which have been set up on the border, including digging the trenches too, while we are at it.
Modi govt has achieved the perfect trifecta of victim mentality: destroy public property, commit human rights' violations and then behave like a snowflake over a tweet.
Well I didn't notice anything in this protest so need to know.
An unbiased media can overthrow this govt in a day. I genuinely believe that the Karan Thapar interview for Modi has now become one of the key days in Indian democracy. That is probably the day Modi decided that to force his agenda, the first step is controlling the media. I still can't believe that at that time, not only did Modi agreed to face an interview but that too in English.
Well if you going to quote 'Newslandry' and 'The Hindu' then nothing I can say to you will affect your judgment.
And for bolded part, if you going to use banner and photos of peoples which India call Khalistani and terrorist, then you will call out for that. Why you give government that chance?
Before you call me let me tell you, I have seen that banner and photo my own eyes from my last visit to Delhi.
I agree with some of the things here but I'd just like to point out that BJP has been quite brazen in passing this law.
In an agarian country like us, they should have had proper parliamentary discussions before passing the law and should have held talks with various farmer committee.
What they instead did is held no discussions, when farmer protest started, they didn't had any conversations with the farmers and left them to protest on roads whilst constantly calling them Khalistani by proxy.
This has been a masterclass in handling things badly.
If I may ask, which is the authentic media outlet I should be referring to then?
Anyway, all things I've listed are not an opinion of a particular media outlet. It is out there even on mouthpieces like the Times Group.
What is the issue you have with Newslaundry and The Hindu by the way? Too anti-national for you? Or are you part of the group that believes because since BJP has Republic, Times Now, Zee etc so by design all others are with the opposition? Or do you believe that Arnab Goswami is the torch bearer of our media?
Even if there is a specific banner, does that mean that the entire protest which has got nothing do with these banners is supposed to become meaningless and all of them are supposed to be treated like terrorists. The Hindutva groups has committed a lot of atrocities in the name of cows and religion. Does that mean that all Hindus are the same considering all farmers (even the ones from UP) are Khalistanis? Should our govt just be waiting for a chance to malign anyone and everyone who speaks against them?
Bro (Sis?), I don't know whether you're playing the Devil's advocate or you're genuinely supporting the bullshite being served to us by our govt and media. Either way, what do you suggest is the way out of this stalemate?
Which banner?
"poopindia readers, unite!"
Governments don't like to find itself faced with demonstrations against its policies and as the events of the last few years show, there are plenty of disillusioned citizens right now in India. Campaigns are often denounced as violent and described as absurd, and then if they persist, they are described as anti-nationals, or at worst terrorists.
Gandhi Ji and Mandela to name just a few are now regarded as heroes for the sacrifices they made for the betterment of society. This all goes to prove the importance of demonstrations and popular campaigns. We must support all peaceful demonstrations and they must be seen as an integral part of political action in any democracy. Without these demonstrations, injustices will continue unchallenged and people will lose confidence in the democratic process by which such wrongs are changed.
Any challenges by citizens be they from foreign sources or home should be embraced or defended with civility and should not be judged as an attack on the sovereignty of the country.
Gandhi Ji and Mandela to name just a few are now regarded as heroes for the sacrifices they made for the betterment of society. This all goes to prove the importance of demonstrations and popular campaigns. We must support all peaceful demonstrations and they must be seen as an integral part of political action in any democracy. Without these demonstrations, injustices will continue unchallenged and people will lose confidence in the democratic process by which such wrongs are changed.
Any challenges by citizens be they from foreign sources or home should be embraced or defended with civility and should not be judged as an attack on the sovereignty of the country.
So, two media houses that don't rely on adverts from government are unreliable, however, the mainstream channels are reliable?
And if you really believe in foreign conspiracy BS, you really need to give all this a real hard think-through.
hell yes
Amit Shah is so insecure
The start of the "international conspiracy" angle and a broader crackdown. And then the Streisand effect takes its own direction.
I thought Modi was supposed to improve our national image. This is fecking embarassing
Amit Shah is so insecure
The start of the "international conspiracy" angle and a broader crackdown. And then the Streisand effect takes its own direction.
This is some Soviet Union shit
Look at the Delhi Pogrom FIRs. First FIR is filed against unnamed people, then people are arrested as 'accused' under UAPA, who cares about the case/courts now. Similar thing was followed in UP when the journalist was arrested under UAPA.
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I never said believe any media outlet, We all know they are bias. Both channel had shown past bias before and that's why I say they are bias.
If you want to have unbias news or understanding about topic find source who are not in news business. I have it and you can find it too.
I don't know there is any foreign conspiracy or not in farmer protest, but if you think there are never foreign conspiracy in Indian history then you are bigger fool then those media outlets.
Tukde Tukde gang are the new kulaks
There is a difference between being biased and propaganda. Yes News Laundary might contain opinion you might not agree with but they'll never package those as facts nor will they ever post fake news.
TV news channel are straight up propaganda literally every Primetime show is about how Modi is our lord and saviour.
You're either extremely naive or biased yourself there is absolutely no comparison between Republic and News Laundary.
None, do I need to say more? there is no unbias media outlet in India we all know that.
If you want to have deep understanding of topic please find some source which are not in news business, they might gives you unbias observation.
First of all I am not government advocate, but what is fact is fact, there where banner so government call them Terrorist and Khalistanis. What you expect? government was on backfoot they will going to say that.
Now that Hunditva thing is interesting, didn't police arrest those persons who put that atrocities in name or cow and religion? If government has done that to farmer imaging what would had happen.
I don't know what you have with government but I suggest try to have some fact check.
Isn't it true they come with some 10-20 points demand when these protest started?
Isn't it In the end government agree half of those demand and suddenly they demanded to revert back all the laws?
Isn't it government also agree to postpone these laws for 18 months?
Now I am not saying new laws are great and everything is correct in that laws, I also believe MSP should be given to all, and more protection should be given to farmer.
But its not like farmer were richer in pervious laws and by applying this new laws they are suddenly becoming poor.
There is not comparison between Republic and any thing, they are extreme bias.
but point is News Laundary is not reliable source either. as Republic they will only show one side of story, so better not judge anything from they outlet.
None of that is true unless you have been sitting under a rock past 6 months.