India politics thread

He won the election with this.
Not really. Would have won it anyway.

Modi's a great orator (for the mass Indian janta), no doubt. But he's a poor PM and were going to have to deal with him and his parties' nonsense for some time yet.
 
Not really. Would have won it anyway.

Modi's a great orator (for the mass Indian janta), no doubt. But he's a poor PM and were going to have to deal with him and his parties' nonsense for some time yet.

Not sure if BJP (alone, without NDA) would have got a majority on their own without this. In Dec 2018 BJP lost 3 states (Raj, MP, Chattisgarh) and their national polling also went down, it continued to be down till Feb when it suddenly picked up in March. Balakot was the major news at the end of Feb.

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Not sure if BJP (alone, without NDA) would have got a majority on their own without this. In Dec 2018 BJP lost 3 states (Raj, MP, Chattisgarh) and their national polling also went down, it continued to be down till Feb when it suddenly picked up in March. Balakot was the major news at the end of Feb.

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My point was regarding the comment rather than Balakot. National security issues tend to always help the incumbent governments.
 
My point was regarding the comment rather than Balakot. National security issues tend to always help the incumbent governments.

oh, sure.
it's still amazng that we missed the buildings, they shot our plane, and he got credit for it.
 
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...also-get-full-refund/articleshow/75205976.cms

I have got about 25k tied up in flight tickets that the airlines are refusing to refund, but are instead providing a credit shell valid for up to a year. DGCA issued a circular saying that only tickets booked for during the lockdown period for flights during the lockdown period will be refunded (how is this even possible and who the hell would be booking tickets when flights were already cancelled?).

Have a few issues with this credit shell option:

1) I lose my choice to book the cheapest ticket available and need to go for the more expensive ticket because my money is already tied up with a certain airlines.
2) Why is the financial burden faced by the airlines being passed on to the consumers? What if the airlines go bankrupt?
3) Which other industry has been allowed to get away with keeping money without providing the goods/services that the money was paid for?
4) I lose my money if I decide to not travel during the period.

Thinking of filing an online RTI with the DGCA - does it help? What other legal options do I have?

Look at point 1 in the circular below, what a joke! Clear collusion between the Government and the airlines.

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...also-get-full-refund/articleshow/75205976.cms

I have got about 25k tied up in flight tickets that the airlines are refusing to refund, but are instead providing a credit shell valid for up to a year. DGCA issued a circular saying that only tickets booked for during the lockdown period for flights during the lockdown period will be refunded (how is this even possible and who the hell would be booking tickets when flights were already cancelled?).

Have a few issues with this credit shell option:

1) I lose my choice to book the cheapest ticket available and need to go for the more expensive ticket because my money is already tied up with a certain airlines.
2) Why is the financial burden faced by the airlines being passed on to the consumers? What if the airlines go bankrupt?
3) Which other industry has been allowed to get away with keeping money without providing the goods/services that the money was paid for?
4) I lose my money if I decide to not travel during the period.

Thinking of filing an online RTI with the DGCA - does it help? What other legal options do I have?

Look at point 1 in the circular below, what a joke! Clear collusion between the Government and the airlines.

EV4xY2xVAAARzsb
Civil aviation minister is more proactive when it comes to banning comedians from flying, for taunting government mouthpieces.

Good luck anyway, I doubt you're alone.
 
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...also-get-full-refund/articleshow/75205976.cms

I have got about 25k tied up in flight tickets that the airlines are refusing to refund, but are instead providing a credit shell valid for up to a year. DGCA issued a circular saying that only tickets booked for during the lockdown period for flights during the lockdown period will be refunded (how is this even possible and who the hell would be booking tickets when flights were already cancelled?).

Have a few issues with this credit shell option:

1) I lose my choice to book the cheapest ticket available and need to go for the more expensive ticket because my money is already tied up with a certain airlines.
2) Why is the financial burden faced by the airlines being passed on to the consumers? What if the airlines go bankrupt?
3) Which other industry has been allowed to get away with keeping money without providing the goods/services that the money was paid for?
4) I lose my money if I decide to not travel during the period.

Thinking of filing an online RTI with the DGCA - does it help? What other legal options do I have?

Look at point 1 in the circular below, what a joke! Clear collusion between the Government and the airlines.

EV4xY2xVAAARzsb


Someone I know is in a similar boat. SpiceJet has credited the refund to a “credit shell” and emailing their nodal officer also did not help. I looked up twitter and SpiceJet is getting some abuse for this stuff. I’m not sure if there is a way to get the refund because of the way the government has phrased the order. I mean who in their right mind would book a ticket during lockdown to fly during lockdown? The government should penalize such people and not those who booked tickets months in advance.
 
To be fair cash flows for aviation industry is completely going to dry up for few months. A lot of airlines would not be able to pay salaries and would have to file bankruptcy. So I do have some sympathy with this credit rule even though in general I would term it as an anti-consumer rule.
 
oh, sure.
it's still amazng that we missed the buildings, they shot our plane, and he got credit for it.
We didn't miss the building. Spice 2000 missile marks were exactly how it should be when they showed aerial photographs. They didnt allow "independent" Journalist for atleast a month due to "bad weather" and then allowed select group of journalist only. A lot of journalist request where denied. It's amazing how Indians believe their propaganda, rather than their own Airforce.

They shot our plane because they had beyond visual range missile which we would have also had, if UPA didn't sit on Rafael for 5 years. They could remain inside their border and shoot avraam without any issue. We had 3rd generation fighter who also shot down one of their own.
 
Not sure if BJP (alone, without NDA) would have got a majority on their own without this. In Dec 2018 BJP lost 3 states (Raj, MP, Chattisgarh) and their national polling also went down, it continued to be down till Feb when it suddenly picked up in March. Balakot was the major news at the end of Feb.

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Losing state election was a non issue because MP they lost by small margin after being in power for 15 years.

Rajasthan has always voted for alternate government in state elections like Karnataka for sometime now.

Chattisgarh was the only suprise as everyone thought that it would be close but not a sweep by Congress. Even there it was after 10 years (?) .

General election was never a close contest, and balakot didn't change anything. Might have given them few extra seats but in overall terms did no change whatsoever
 
To be fair cash flows for aviation industry is completely going to dry up for few months. A lot of airlines would not be able to pay salaries and would have to file bankruptcy. So I do have some sympathy with this credit rule even though in general I would term it as an anti-consumer rule.

This is understood. What Government can not do is pass on the fallout of this to citizens who happened to have had tickets booked for the lockdown period. I reached out to my airline and they are actually quoting the circular above to deny my refund request (since I had made my bookings in Ferbruary). Someone in DGCA received a huge kickback to issue this circular. I don't know how much clearer Government Industry collusion at the cost of citizens money can get?!
 
This is understood. What Government can not do is pass on the fallout of this to citizens who happened to have had tickets booked for the lockdown period. I reached out to my airline and they are actually quoting the circular above to deny my refund request (since I had made my bookings in Ferbruary). Someone in DGCA received a huge kickback to issue this circular. I don't know how much clearer Government Industry collusion at the cost of citizens money can get?!

The reason why government is not doing it is because it will be called elitist if they do it. At this moment credit is your best option. Don't expect any refund when Airlines are on the verge of bankruptcy and government not interested in helping out it's taxpayers
 
We didn't miss the building. Spice 2000 missile marks were exactly how it should be when they showed aerial photographs. They didnt allow "independent" Journalist for atleast a month due to "bad weather" and then allowed select group of journalist only. A lot of journalist request where denied. It's amazing how Indians believe their propaganda, rather than their own Airforce.

They shot our plane because they had beyond visual range missile which we would have also had, if UPA didn't sit on Rafael for 5 years. They could remain inside their border and shoot avraam without any issue. We had 3rd generation fighter who also shot down one of their own.

India’s strike on Balakot: a very precise miss?

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/indias-strike-on-balakot-a-very-precise-miss/
 

I know that article, and it was entirely based on one satellite imaginary and their assumption that building should be damaged sufficiently ( which later images does show) and it should be visible in satellite imaginary. There are multiple evidence to the contrary that black spots seen on building was exactly the type of signature that spice missile creates. I am not an expert on this but there are various defence experts out there who can certify it.

The assumption in the article is the damage is not entirely significant and thus article explains how it could have missed. Later satellite imaginaries clearly show the impact on the top of the building. Plus various ambulances and dig site for funeral was also spotted in later images.
 
This is understood. What Government can not do is pass on the fallout of this to citizens who happened to have had tickets booked for the lockdown period. I reached out to my airline and they are actually quoting the circular above to deny my refund request (since I had made my bookings in Ferbruary). Someone in DGCA received a huge kickback to issue this circular. I don't know how much clearer Government Industry collusion at the cost of citizens money can get?!

I don't think is a straight forward case of corruption or kickbacks. Govt will have to issue a bail out for the airline industry or risk multiple airline companies go bankrupt which will in turn expose financial institutions which have invested in them. For India, Coronavirus triggered recession could not have come at a worse time since our economy was already in doldrums before it (ironically for this Govt it came as a blessing since now they will just blame economy going down on the pandemic since they refused to accept it being in a bad state before hand). Govt can't really afford big bail outs and risk civil unrest if too many people lose job due to closing companies. You will definitely see more of these kind of concessions being given to industries.
 

It was Tarek Fatah quote which he was quoting but that part is edited. I don't know why he is even writing it. Also that twitter handle is known for anti hindu bias. Alongwith another Kuwaiti lawyer that she keeps retweeting.
 
It was Tarek Fatah quote which he was quoting but that part is edited. I don't know why he is even writing it. Also that twitter handle is known for anti hindu bias. Alongwith another Kuwaiti lawyer that she keeps retweeting.
Tejasvi surya is a stupid immatured man. If he is the future of Indian politics then I fear for the country. I mean how dumb can one be. It's like they don't care about the good of the country and just about their bs agenda.
 
> I don't know why he is even writing it.

Many people do.
This is the same Surya who said publicly that the only people protesting against CAA is puncturewallahs (derogatory term used commonly by people in Bangalore to refer to muslims).

Tejasvi surya is a stupid immatured man. If he is the future of Indian politics then I fear for the country. I mean how dumb can one be. It's like they don't care about the good of the country and just about their bs agenda.
If I'm not mistaken, he was handpicked by bjp and RSS central leadership.
 
This is the same Surya who said publicly that the only people protesting against CAA is puncturewallahs (derogatory term used commonly by people in Bangalore to refer to muslims).


If I'm not mistaken, he was handpicked by bjp and RSS central leadership.
Tweet deleted. We can expect mercy petition anytime soon.
 
The airline credit is what a lot of governments are accepting. I think the only worry about the credit is how many airlines would survive this? If they survive then good. If not that's the question.
 
The airline credit is what a lot of governments are accepting. I think the only worry about the credit is how many airlines would survive this? If they survive then good. If not that's the question.

It's not really good though.

If they can't refund the money they should not force the money to be used for the same passenger who the flight was booked for.

Then there is the timeline. A lot of people won't be traveling in the next year now, what happens to their money?

What about people who may need to book more expensive flights because their money is with another airline?

And all of this is assuming that these guys survive this. I won't shed a tear if they don't even though I'll lose my money.
 

Communalisation of COVID-19: After UAE, now Kuwait cracks whip on Islamophobes. 1 Indian sacked another under investigation amidst warning from Kuwaiti MP

http://www.jantakareporter.com/worl...gation-amidst-warning-from-kuwaiti-mp/287413/

Indian man from Karnataka sacked for insulting Islam, issues apology amidst likely arrest by Dubai Police

http://www.jantakareporter.com/worl...s-apology-amidst-likely-jail-sentence/287209/
 
Good to see the Islamic countries take on Indian govt over their continued support of bigots in the government.
If the govt goes after the bigots then the bigots will topple the govt or atleast those who run it in favour of others who share there ideology. Extremists always eventually get out of there masters clutches. Good old pakistan is the most prime and recent example.
 
It's not really good though.

If they can't refund the money they should not force the money to be used for the same passenger who the flight was booked for.

Then there is the timeline. A lot of people won't be traveling in the next year now, what happens to their money?

What about people who may need to book more expensive flights because their money is with another airline?

And all of this is assuming that these guys survive this. I won't shed a tear if they don't even though I'll lose my money.

I agree with you. I am in the same boat in a different country of course. The chances are that as soon as this is over I will be flying but at this moment in time I would also rather have a refund instead of a credit.
 
If the govt goes after the bigots then the bigots will topple the govt or atleast those who run it in favour of others who share there ideology. Extremists always eventually get out of there masters clutches. Good old pakistan is the most prime and recent example.
Modi and his govt are all full of bigots. Just see the people he follows on twitter to know what kind of man he is. Dilemma for him is he can't repeat what his followers does so openly because he wants to project the image of himself and India as secular democratic nation in the world. But at home he wants to project himself as a leader of Hindutva, that's why the dog whistles every now and then during his speeches here.
Basically he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. His sanghi followers knows it and praise him for the way he seem to have concealed his bigotry outside of India. Don't think there's any chance of anyone from inside BJP toppling him.