There’s no point selling Martial if we are gonna get another Weghorst in. The only reason to sell if if we get a decent offer AND we can find a competent second choice striker. Whatever we think about Martial, when he’s fit he’s not a terrible player and so you want someone at least as good as that base level.
If we lose Martial who should we buy as a backup striker?
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Yeah I think the issue is that we would probably have to pay to let him go.
He's on the last year of his contract and his wages are HUGE. I know we talk about struggling to sell because of wages but Martial is the biggest example of that. No club that can afford 250k a week is signing him and so we will end up having to pay most of his contract anyway.
Even if we sign a cheap striker for an extra body we may as well keep Martial.
add to that Rasmus is injurd for a month and would need time to get used to the team and the league. In addition Amad is out as week so potentially that would leave us with 4 players ready to play the first couple of games
You are right, I must have miscounted that. But the fact we have more than 6 or 7 young and talented forwards fighting for front 3, I think its more than enough. I mean let's look at City front 3:
LW: Grealish, Foden, Palmer
CF: Haaland, Alvarez, Foden
RW: Alvarez, Silva, Foden, Palmer
They only have 6 players there, with even less options than us, but thats not stopping them from winning the treble last season and they are about to challenge for all fronts again this season.
This was clearly just to get listeners
Yeah need to strike before Spurs get there
You've made some very good points and I don't actually disagree with what you say.
I've made the point regarding digital manipulation in relation to this particular matter to people in real life (ie not online) when discussing it.
It's the reason why I stated "we are lead to believe" and used quotation marks around the word "evidence".
My thinking though would be that IF what was presented online that day (and subsequently widely reported online and in mainstream print and broadcast material) had been faked entirely or manipulated in some way either by the alleged "victim" or by others with bad intentions then surely the authorities' digital forensics experts would have tested that as part of the initial investigation.
If found to be genuine and neither faked or manipulated then that would surely have been a material part of the prosecution's case against the defendant alongside the alleged victim's first hand witness testimony.
If found to have be faked or manipulated by the initial complainant then they would surely have faced police action for wasting their time amongst other possible charges.
If found to be faked or manipulated by others outside of the alleged victim and perpetrator then there would surely have been a police investigation into that.
As far as I'm aware we've heard nothing to either effect so we are left with what was seen and heard online which forms the root of my thinking and I'm sure that of many others.
Again, as far as I'm aware, the only reason the case was dropped by the CPS is because, we are lead to believe, the alleged victim/complainant decided against testifying, withdrew the complaint or whatever and apparently new evidence came to light......the details of which I'm not sure were ever made public.
I appreciate your in depth reply, good stuff!
If we *lose* the valuable services of Martial, then I think we stick with Rashford and Hojlund. Don't think we'll buy anyone else. So essentially we'll be in the same situation we're in with Martial here.
Why we aren't loaning or picking up a no 9 on a free/cheap deal is totally beyond me. Would have meant we could keep Rashford in his favoured position off the left. Clearly Tony can't be trusted with his fitness so find it bizarre decision.
United will lose at least 10% of it's fanbase reintegrating Greenwood.
Martial won't be sold because nobody will buy him. Don't forget *redacted* is coming back too. So that's four / five centre forwards if you include Rashford and Sancho.
It's baffling. The only thing I can think is that they don't see the problem somehow. I have a suspicion that we'll see it too late, and end up having to do exactly this (again) in the January window.
City might still sign someone, the transfer window isn’t over. They had 7 players last season with Mahrez. Palmer was used sparingly, kinda like how I expect Amad to be used. Or how Pellistri was used last season.
More like 0.0000001% if that. Who would they follow that has never had players who have done awful things? Most clubs have. What he (sounded like) he did was really bad, but other players have gone as far as ending someone's life and still have a career. Sucks, but it's how things are.
Last season we rellied on a 36 y.o egoistical past-it superstar and a perma-crock to lead our line, this season we relly on a 20 y.o unproven kid and the very same perma-crock to lead it, honestly i dont know which one of those set of strikers is worse but i can tell you ain't no way SAF would let that happen, ain't no way he would go into another season without another proven goal-scorer in his team. I just don't understand this club, feels like it's mandatory to make our managers task to be even harder. We didn't get Ole a single DM in his 3 years tenure with us (didnt give him proper striker too!), now we are doing the same thing to ETH?! We should sign a new striker regardless of hojlund perform or whether martial leaves or not. strikers win us games.
0.0000001% of 659000000 is 0.659 fans. I reckon United will lose more than one whole fan by playing a rapist.
I could wait if we got Toney then
CF for me is only down the middle whereas the others are what I call wide strikers
Sancho has been played central all pre-season so I think that it a clue to where Ten Hag sees him all season. Rashford will play central on Monday and did for parts last season. They are definitely wide forwards but will find themselves playing centrally for parts of this season.
People need to realise he only makes 250k a week under very specific circumstances. And the papers only list it as 250k by splitting his end of year bonuses in to his weekly wage to sensationalise it. Given he barely plays, has a mediocre scoring record and we didn’t win the league or champions league I doubt he gets anywhere near that targets to receive his full bonus.
Anyway if he goes i’d Imagine MG will be the one or maybe a cheeky bid for Gift Orban. Just roll the dice on you g strikers for the season.
Orban would be a good investment, but Tottenham seem very keen, just got a windfall, and better able to guarantee him 1st team place rather than rotating...
I don't like Martial but selling him now will be stupid. He's going to leave on free next year anyway. Let him play this season as we don't have time nor money to buy another striker.
I can see this happening.
See how Rashford’s, Hojlund, Gwood, Sancho get along - then go for Toney in January?
Only thing is if Toney has lost match fitness- but should be good enough after only 3 months out.
Toney has such a short goalscoring deadly strikers name.
Him at United or Arsenal seems really old school cool.
Are you aware what his base wage is?
Not preciously no, I know it’s over 140k as it was mentioned when Lingard got his new contract. But I think it’s around 150-160k and the rest is tied in to bonuses.It’s still a feck tonne of money that I’m sure many clubs looking at him would have to weigh up if it’s worth the risk.
In form and fit he’s easily worth that but those two things are quite scarce for him.
Probably late to the party but I see we've re-added a certain vile cnuts profile to our website.
Hasn't this topic been temporarily locked down again??
(nb. they won't; the only way to possibly think this is by ignoring every single footballing controversy ever and its outcomes as well as the specific composition of fandom in a global 'market' - the only thing that loses United mass number of fans is sporting mismanagement etc etc)
Martial was barely available.
If we sell him Rashford will play more often at ST, with the way Garnacho is developing.
There is obviously also Rasmus.
And then Voldemort is clearly going to be brought back in.
If we sell him Rashford will play more often at ST, with the way Garnacho is developing.
There is obviously also Rasmus.
And then Voldemort is clearly going to be brought back in.
When we get rid of martial, anybody who can start consistently would be a massive Feckin boost 
Yeah he would count as two signings so that's also handy
Someone should've told him that deep fried food isn't recommended for every meal, even in Glasgow. And I say that as someone who just ordered a battered pizza supper for my tea.
Same, he's unbelievably calm and clever inside the box.
Yeah he would count as two signings so that's also handy
Someone should've told him that deep fried food isn't recommended for every meal, even in Glasgow. And I say that as someone who just ordered a battered pizza supper for my tea.
I was really only joking with my suggestion.
Is a battered pizza supper nice?
I can confirm that it was not
I was really only joking with my suggestion.
Is a battered pizza supper nice?
Danny Welbeck
Is a battered pizza supper nice?
Deep fried cardiac, all the rage in certain quarters apparently
Hojlund should be the backup striker, we should look for a starter.
It seems very much like that decision has been made and it's just a question of when, and if *redacted* will be any good upon his return. I doubt his head will be right for football for a very long time what with away fans (and possibly some home fans) booing him every time he touches the ball. Completely wrong environment to grow as a player.
I can confirm that it was not
Best of luck with the bypass anyway.