No, you need a blend. But our squad overall is far more experienced than the '93 squad. Which had kids in almost every position. The names I mentioned are really only competing for two, at most three, positions in our best XI.
If we are not getting Pedro because of Januzaj/Perreira etc...
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No, you need a blend. But our squad overall is far more experienced than the '93 squad. Which had kids in almost every position. The names I mentioned are really only competing for two, at most three, positions in our best XI.
Januzaj and Pereira were going to get time on the pitch anyway. Januzaj has already played a fair bit. The U-turn for Pedro is probably LVG being wary or Chelsea just offering money straight-up which we didn't want to give.
You can't be seriousWas never excited about Pedro coming and am glad we didn't sign him. We have a good squad and if we are getting players it should be a big improvement and he really isn't that.
I'm be happy for the younger players to have forced the managers hand and made him change his mind on bringing in a new player. It's bold and could backfire but if it pays off then great! My one worry is that wide right is lacking any real options apart from Mata.
Good if you are pleased, it will compensate nicely for some who are about to commit suicide out of embarrassment.
Nope. Mata's better off on the right.
Oh I agree completely with regards to Mata. Baffling how some have criticized him when I think these last few games have been his best in a United shirt (in terms of creativity on the ball). It's a lot closer to the player we all thought we were getting when we bought him. And while giving Januzaj and Pereira all the extra playing time will only help in the future, it'll probably mean we won't be winning the title this season, as they are both young and will be inconsistent. Looking at our options though, and how Van Gaal likes his 10's to play, it would seem like Januzaj is best suited to the #10 role, he just needs to find the consistency in his game. But it'll be rotated between him, Fellaini, Pereira, Memphis when Young plays wide, and Herrera I think. It's probably the one spot that is up for grabs for somebody to make it their own.
I'd be very happy with that, but LvG has to prove it by giving them chances. Both look ready for a starting place in a couple of years.
We will sign a striker instead I reckon.
Maybe LvG saw Memphis playing forward or #10 but changed his mind after the performances so far (including pre-season). If he doesn't consider him a forward, but a winger, we don't need Pedro but we do need competition for Rooney.
Maybe LvG saw Memphis playing forward or #10 but changed his mind after the performances so far (including pre-season). If he doesn't consider him a forward, but a winger, we don't need Pedro but we do need competition for Rooney.
Finally, someone else has acknowledged this.
I think Van Gaal initially had Pedro pegged at left wing as a Young replacement. He really likes his inverted wingers and I don't think he'd be as happy playing Pedro on the right wing even if he can play there. He likes his wingers cutting in.
Memphis has speed, power, technique and finishing skills, but is not great defensively. Maybe that's why he wanted to try him as a second striker, but the game yesterday really underlined what an incredible threat he can be from the wing.
Memphis has speed, power, technique and finishing skills, but is not great defensively. Maybe that's why he wanted to try him as a second striker, but the game yesterday really underlined what an incredible threat he can be from the wing.
Whatever the reason, I'm all for giving Pereira and Januzaj more game time
Agreed, we should sign a striker.
Apart from last night (which we can disregard due to the opponents) we've created next to nothing
Fantastic, the one half-decent player available to sign this year and we let Chelsea get him by dithering about like fecking morons haggling over a couple of million.
Van Gaal could also be doing what he is with the defence. Either sign a truly world class, game changing player like Muller or Bale, or give the very promising youngsters a proper chance to develop. With the defence it was either sign Ramos or give Smalling et all a chance. Some won't be happy, because with our money we could definitely bring in big names in hope for instant success, but maybe this is a lot more of the real United way. We can spend big, but we are also prepared to give the youngsters a chance to make a big impact on our team.
I said it earlier in the summer, but it reminds me of our squad 10 years ago or so. Rooney and Ronaldo were both very young but hugely promising. Sure, we could have signed some big player then, but it would have put them on the bench and halted their development. Instead, we rode out a few trophyless years and it more then paid off for us. Now, we have Memphis, Januzaj, Pereira and Shaw. 4 incredibly promising players that any team in the world would love to have as their youngsters. All have a huge shot at becoming truly top class players, and I'm sure they will all be on the verge of top class/world class 3 years from now really. Just a matter of giving them the time to become the players they can.
I said it earlier in the summer, but it reminds me of our squad 10 years ago or so. Rooney and Ronaldo were both very young but hugely promising. Sure, we could have signed some big player then, but it would have put them on the bench and halted their development. Instead, we rode out a few trophyless years and it more then paid off for us. Now, we have Memphis, Januzaj, Pereira and Shaw. 4 incredibly promising players that any team in the world would love to have as their youngsters. All have a huge shot at becoming truly top class players, and I'm sure they will all be on the verge of top class/world class 3 years from now really. Just a matter of giving them the time to become the players they can.
It could also mean Lingard will be given a chance. He was the one who consistently played on the right during pre-season in place of Mata.
Exactly, we have been woeful in attack against proper opposition in the PL, people shouldn't be swayed by a game against a team from a 3rd tier league, our attack is still well short of the standard needed
He hasn't had a sniff in the first 3 games. Has he even been on the bench?
possibly but has he even made the bench yet?
Ah yes, the rest we've signed are pure shite...
I would have loved Pedro here that's for certain. When we were perceived to have interest in him I saw that he could fill a need on the right wing and would probably be good for us and the final piece to the puzzle.
But if we don't buy him or any other fwd. And we use our own boys from the academy,the pereiras, the lingards, the Januzajs. All these Talented young players and do something special and win a trophy with them. Hey I think it will be that much more special.
I like most always love new signings, and am a little disappointed that Chelsea are getting Pedro, but I think our boys are more than capable of doing something fantastic if given the opportunity.
But if we don't buy him or any other fwd. And we use our own boys from the academy,the pereiras, the lingards, the Januzajs. All these Talented young players and do something special and win a trophy with them. Hey I think it will be that much more special.
I like most always love new signings, and am a little disappointed that Chelsea are getting Pedro, but I think our boys are more than capable of doing something fantastic if given the opportunity.
It's a tongue in cheek comment, But then I again we do need to strengthen and messing around with 12 days left of the Transfer Window isn't the best situation.
There's not a chance we're going to end the summer with a net spend of £20m or so, right?
Right?!
Right?!
If we sell De Gea it might well be slightly negative!
Mata needs to play centrally and Adnan right wing - the kid's up against 2 or 3 players every time he gets the ball in the middle - he needs to be one on one with the fullback
If not getting Pedro ultimately means more game time for Januzaj/Perreira/Wilson, I'm actually happy with that. I think we'll have a good season, and I don't see Pedro being the difference between us winning trophies or not
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I'm not too bothered about us missing out on Pedro, it seems that we could have gotten him at any point and just didn't think he was worth the money or the right player for us. If LVG trusts Januzaj/Periera and maybe even Lingard as a backup then I'm all for it. I think we're mostly covered on the wings for now and Januzaj/Memphis are only going to get better.
Well, if you look at the wide areas, we currently have:
Memphis - Winger
Mata - Not really a winger
Young - Winger
Lingard - Not being used
Pereira - Not really a winger
Januzaj - Being used as a 10
That's more than enough players, but although there's a lot of potential in the list above, apart from Memphis and Young, neither of them are really wingers, and I feel we could do with at least one top class player on the wing, especially someone who is blisteringly quick. We lack pace in wide areas.
Memphis - Winger
Mata - Not really a winger
Young - Winger
Lingard - Not being used
Pereira - Not really a winger
Januzaj - Being used as a 10
That's more than enough players, but although there's a lot of potential in the list above, apart from Memphis and Young, neither of them are really wingers, and I feel we could do with at least one top class player on the wing, especially someone who is blisteringly quick. We lack pace in wide areas.
Januzaj looked the real deal yesterday. He wasn't amazing by any stretch of the imagination, but he just looked like he could do the job.
I'm not distraught about the lack of Pedro, especially if it means LvG has a chance to build something special, but the fact is we do need someone else who can get goals, whether it's a striker or another winger.
I'm not distraught about the lack of Pedro, especially if it means LvG has a chance to build something special, but the fact is we do need someone else who can get goals, whether it's a striker or another winger.
If that's true, then at least there's that and he knows we need some proper pace on the right.
Personally I thought he was quick enough. He's faster than Januzaj.
Weird to have reservations about his pace. Maybe his top speed isn't amazing, but he has a great change of pace and acceleration and is very agile, which is more important in football.
He is lightning quick, I dont know what that tweet is all about. If there is any reservations for Pedro in the Pl it would be strength.
If it's true that LVG didn't think he was quick enough then who is? I mean that as a genuine question by the way... Because I thought Pedro was pretty quick and I can't think of too many players who are available and are quicker?
If it's true that also means no chance is Muller on the way!
Anyway I don't think LVG decided against Pedro to give Januzaj and Pereira more chances. He's watched Januzaj for over a year now and has said he wants pace. Neither Januzaj nor Pereira offer that.
If it's true that also means no chance is Muller on the way!
Anyway I don't think LVG decided against Pedro to give Januzaj and Pereira more chances. He's watched Januzaj for over a year now and has said he wants pace. Neither Januzaj nor Pereira offer that.
Don't think he has to win a title this year tbh.
I am also happy about the idea of junzaj and pierrira getting more time but it is still a huge risk, especially considering our rivals (who already have better attacking options then us) are beefing up their squad.
It's an unnecessary risk to take, if we had a top top striker i'd be more inclined to accept it.
Januzaj has plenty of pace.
It would be amazing but the league is too competitive atm and it's alot of pressure to put on them.
I honestly think lvg job this year is just to get top 4 again if he has no qualms about replacing di maria and rvp.
Not that arsed. Hope he breaks his leg etc etc
If as a tweet suggested that LVG wasn't sure he wanted to come to us - then fine with me. We need players that want to be here and play for us - plus I was weary of the 'not getting game time and would have stayed otherwise' - maybe I'm wrong but just want players who want to be here now - irrespective of what they decide to do in the future.
If as a tweet suggested that LVG wasn't sure he wanted to come to us - then fine with me. We need players that want to be here and play for us - plus I was weary of the 'not getting game time and would have stayed otherwise' - maybe I'm wrong but just want players who want to be here now - irrespective of what they decide to do in the future.
Had an argument with someone about this last night. It's a myth that Januzaj is slow. Not sure where it came from