If one has to go from Mata, Martial, or Blind, which one?

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To me these are three players who are clearly very talented, but that Jose just isn't that sure about, they are also only a handful of players that we have potentially available who could generate a decent fee (other than Smalling), but they also all seem to be fans favourites (unlike Smalling), so if one has to go, which one?
 
Blind. Martial is still young, and there is a chance he'll get back to his form. We have such a bland team, so Mata's creativity is a necessity. Blind is a decent squad player, but in defense he's a mistake waiting to happen. Though I would like to see him in a defensive mix position.
 
Obviously Blind.

Then Mata, by a distance.

Martial last, also by a distance.
 
Martial isn't going anywhere. For me I don't think any of them will leave, Blind has versatility and Mata was probably our 2nd best attacker last season, Martial has too much talent for us to consider letting him leave after one poor season.
 
Why these 3? 3 different positions. Your poll makes no sense to me.
 
Depends who we sign obviously.

If we signed someone like James (I know he's gone to Bayern), Mata.
 
Mata is a big game player while Blind is a good utility player to have. No point selling Mata since he earns average wages and he does perform when needed. Martial on the other hand, had one good season under his belt and needs to build on that. Wouldn't make sense selling him. We would probably just get 30M at best.
 
peridigm said:
Why these 3? 3 different positions. Your poll makes no sense to me.
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Irrelevant imo, they are just three players who we have that could be made surplus to requirements, but who all have their uses/popularity, Blind for his versatility, Mata for his experience/handy goals, and Martial for his potential, for me one will be sold, nothing deeper than that.
 
Blind is useful, Martial is too youn so Mata for me

He wouldnt make it in the first team for Madrid, Barca, Juventus, Bayern, so why is he good enough for us? It kills me when he starts on the right and his lack of pace just exposes him
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Irrelevant imo, they are just three players who we have that could be made surplus to requirements, but who all have their uses/popularity, Blind for his versatility, Mata for his experience/handy goals, and Martial for his potential, for me one will be sold, nothing deeper than that.
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How exactly are Mata and Martial surplus to requirements? As of right now they are both starting on the LW and RW.
 
Blind. I definitely don't want to lose Mata or Martial. Martial in particular would be devastating
 
2 of the 3 played the Europa League final, why would any of them be surplus a few months later when positionally we haven't signed any players who would take their place? This thread makes zero sense
 
RDCR07 said:
How exactly are Mata and Martial surplus to requirements? As of right now they are both starting on the LW and RW.
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Martial was last season a reluctant choice at best, Mata is different, but again he doesn't seem like a player Jose really wants pick consistently, thus they are maybe prime targets to be moved on if the offer is right, as is Blind & Smalling.
 
There are others who must go before we even think of selling either of these three. Ashley young and Phil Jones should go first.
 
beingshe7don said:
Mata is a big game player while Blind is a good utility player to have. No point selling Mata since he earns average wages and he does perform when needed. Martial on the other hand, had one good season under his belt and needs to build on that. Wouldn't make sense selling him. We would probably just get 30M at best.
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Pretty sure Mata doesn't earn average wages. He's on at least 140k I'd say.

Not that I'd be in favour of letting him go at all.
 
AshRK said:
There are others who must go before we even think of selling either of these three. Ashley young and Phil Jones should go first.
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Good luck finding a club to buy them, especially Young whose contract is up at the end of the season.
 
I love Mata, but he'd be the one for me I think. Blind is versatile and good cover, but Mata doesn't really fit into the side and can only effectively play one position. Martial can have a big future, but needs to sort himself out.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Martial was last season a reluctant choice at best, Mata is different, but again he doesn't seem like a player Jose really wants pick consistently, thus they are maybe prime targets to be moved on if the offer is right, as is Blind & Smalling.
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Martial is one of the top prospects in Europe. Did you short term memory loss make you forget the first season he had? You dont just give up on players like Martial. He is still young so inconsistency is expected. Also if the offer is right, then literally any player in the team is movable, so whats the point of this thread?
 
That's a really strange selection of players. If I was to pick one though it would be Blind easily.
 
Mata and Martial provide goals in a side that struggles to score.

Blind offers defensive cover for a squad that already has a top defence, has only just added an expensive new defender and has two prodigious young talents waiting to make a breakthrough. Even with Shaw injured at left-back, Blind was second choice to Darmian, ffs... who himself is a below average right-back who's as one-dimensional as they come and playing out of position.

Blind's surplus to requirements in comparison to the other two. Not to mention of significantly lower quality.
 
Pretty sure that if Jose would be selling any one of these three tomorrow, it'd be Martial.
 
Mata and Martial are our clubs highest scorers now in the wake of Rooney's departure if I'm not mistaken? Selling either of them this window would be madness.
 
RDCR07 said:
Martial is one of the top prospects in Europe. Did you short term memory loss make you forget the first season he had? You dont just give up on players like Martial. He is still young so inconsistency is expected. Also if the offer is right, then literally any player in the team is movable, so whats the point of this thread?
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I feel it's a justified thread based on last seasons performances/Jose's perceived opinion on these players, and I do not have a short memory on Martial, of the three I'd keep him first, but imo Jose may not.

Maybe as I do with treads I think are pointless it's best you just ignore.
 
I remember this time last year all the papers were saying we would get rid of Mata and Blind, only for them to be some of our best players at the beginning of the season. If I had to choose one to go it would easily be Blind, not that I want him to leave.
 
Blind was our first choice CB at the start of the season, then lost his place. He got a run at LB, then lost his place (to a fecking right-back played out of position). The only reason he wasn't frozen out completely is because of our injury crisis at CB. But that's been addressed with Lindelof.

I can't help but feel that Lindelof is the ball-playing CB that's come in to take Blind's place in the squad. As such, Blind's the least necessary option of the 3.
 
Jose understands the importance of mata. He is very popular among fans and has improved his defensive side of game. Jose will keep him and use him wisely. He also chips in with goals which lingard doesn't. maybe next year but not now.
 
Completely arbitrary question (why these players?).
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Irrelevant imo, they are just three players who we have that could be made surplus to requirements, but who all have their uses/popularity, Blind for his versatility, Mata for his experience/handy goals, and Martial for his potential, for me one will be sold, nothing deeper than that.
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Their positions are very relevant.

Blind plays LB an LCB. He's arguably first choice at LB over Shaw at this point in time.

Martial plays LW, S, and sometimes RW. Not first choice very much last season but not far off to be considered surplus. If we sign Perisic for instance, his time will be limited but I don't see Jose selling him unless we have more cover.

Mata is similar to Blind in that he was arguably first choice RW over Mkhitaryan who Jose liked to play on the left or more central. Again, don't see us selling him unless we buy a replacement. If nothing else his needs just increased with Rooney leaving. Same for Martial.

So back to your question if one had to be sold, which one. My point is, Jose would never take 3 players of 3 different positions and choose to ax one of them based solely on the collective 3. Blind is never going to play LW or RW, Martial would never start at LB or CB as would Mata. We're not in a position to have to sell one of the players to cut wages back or trim squad numbers. Each one could be sold independent of the others status or value or he could sell all 3.

I'm not choosing to sell Blind who is a LB and CB because Mata or Martial are better wingers. That's what makes no sense to me.

I'd sell Blind because Shaw comes good and we bought a CB plus I'd sell Mata because we bought Bale and Martial because we bought Sanchez. I'd sell all 3 if we bought better players.
 
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