Casemiro seems a no brainer to me as a short term choice for next few years.
If not Bruno, who should be captain?
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Bruno.
Language barriers aren't really a problem. This entirely accurate and not remotely fake video proves it.
this seems like a bit of an overreaction based on Neville wrongfully calling him out yesterday.
correct
Still Bruno.
He seems to be a one game a week player this season. Which would rule him out. Hopefully temporary but heard worrying comments about the state of his knee(s) on a United podcast.
All in the caf, yo.
I tried to read it to the tune of Ghostbusters.
Has to be Bruno. Comfortably the best option in the squad imo, and I haven't seen any reason why it shouldn't be him. If not him though, then it would be a tough one.
Casemiro as Captain and Martinez as deputy.
Martinez, Casemiro, Varane, De Gea, Show... anybody but Bruno Fernandes cause he is not even close to captain material.
i'm ddg's biggest fan.
please don't make him captain.
any of the defensive 3 might be ok i guess.
please don't make him captain.
any of the defensive 3 might be ok i guess.
Is that why people are discussing changing captain? For fecks sake
I'm sure the players were absolutely delighted with Eric for getting himself sent off & then obviously banned long term in 95. And with Roy Keane getting himself sent off what, 5 or 6 times as captain?
Casemiro is certainly the player who behaves most like a captain.
Captaincy feels like more of a symbolic thing these days though. As long as you have a group of players working well within a system, it shouldn't really matter who is wearing the armband. Odegaard at Arsenal case in point.
Captaincy feels like more of a symbolic thing these days though. As long as you have a group of players working well within a system, it shouldn't really matter who is wearing the armband. Odegaard at Arsenal case in point.
Is that why people are discussing changing captain? For fecks sake
I'm sure the players were absolutely delighted with Eric for getting himself sent off & then obviously banned long term in 95. And with Roy Keane getting himself sent off what, 5 or 6 times as captain?
To be fair they’re very different situations.
I think Ten Hag did well to keep Maguire captain and buy time to see who he wants as permanent captain. Appointing Bruno full time at the start of the season and then removing it would have been a disaster.
By all accounts Casemiro hasn’t really been involved in leadership groups for Real or Brazil, although he’s clearly a logical choice in terms of leading by example. There’s a very good argument for Varane or even Martinez at the end of the season. I can’t see how it comes from any other than those three if it’s not Bruno.
By all accounts Casemiro hasn’t really been involved in leadership groups for Real or Brazil, although he’s clearly a logical choice in terms of leading by example. There’s a very good argument for Varane or even Martinez at the end of the season. I can’t see how it comes from any other than those three if it’s not Bruno.
Varane and Martinez vice
The general premise is that the players were "irritated" by his actions, I'm sure the players would've been "irritated" with previous captains on occasion. That doesn't mean you change the captain.
He could but preferred not to on camera. I can’t imagine that he was very vocal in the dressing room though.
I understand the criticism he is getting and I haven’t seen the images as I turned the game off after 5-0 but I think we shouldn’t forget that he has played almost all games and against West Ham he looked like zombie.
So yeah, the combination of Liverpool scoring 7, playing at Anfield and obviously being fatigued hasn’t helped and probably broke him mentally.
So yeah, the combination of Liverpool scoring 7, playing at Anfield and obviously being fatigued hasn’t helped and probably broke him mentally.
Varane or Casemiro.
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In an ideal world, it would be Casemiro. I think someone that speaks English should be captain, though.
Out of the other options, Varane is probably the best choice. I still think it should be Bruno. How many games have we won this season with him as captain?
Out of the other options, Varane is probably the best choice. I still think it should be Bruno. How many games have we won this season with him as captain?
Can't compare Bruno with Cantona or Roy Keane though.Is that why people are discussing changing captain? For fecks sake
I'm sure the players were absolutely delighted with Eric for getting himself sent off & then obviously banned long term in 95. And with Roy Keane getting himself sent off what, 5 or 6 times as captain?
Casemiro and Martinez do not speak much english, right?
Otherwise one of those two would have made a good captain.
Varane is a no go. He will break down if played every 3 days.
Otherwise one of those two would have made a good captain.
Varane is a no go. He will break down if played every 3 days.
What actually happened with Bruno yesterday? I was watching the 2nd half in a haze (from shock) which means I was aware of the score but I mentally switched off after the 3-0. I can’t even remember the goals. Did he do something controversial?
Casemiro.
Who is the captain of Man City? I just realized I don't know. And I don't care.
Perhaps it is not important who our captain is? Maybe it was important 30 years ago, but not any more.
Perhaps it is not important who our captain is? Maybe it was important 30 years ago, but not any more.
He did a lot of hand waving, dived a bit and got into an altercation with a linesman which the officials were not bothered about. He didn't really put in the effort defensively in the last 30 minutes but would have to say that is an anomaly as he is usually one of the hardest workers in the team, the fact he has played more than 500 minutes more than anyone else is maybe catching up to him.
The uproar is down to Neville calling him out and then falsely accusing him of asking to be substituted during the match. I don't normally mind Neville but he was bang out of order for that. I think Gary was feeling embarrassed after he decided to call out Souness in the build up and then ended with egg all over his face. To hear him and Keane talk you would believe we never shat the bed in their era which is frankly nonsense. In general people have rose colored spectacles about the past as evidenced by this thread.
Martinez for me.
A hard hitter to show everyone how big balls you need to make it here. I think his spirit has lifted us the most, and thats what you need in a captain. Mentality over skills for me. (Else it would be Casemiro)
A hard hitter to show everyone how big balls you need to make it here. I think his spirit has lifted us the most, and thats what you need in a captain. Mentality over skills for me. (Else it would be Casemiro)
Thanks. I did read he asked to be substituted Which I did not automatically believe. So Neville started this? What on earth is wrong with our ex players being so toxic about man utd? If they don’t have anything better to say they’d better keep their mouths shut.
Other than that Bruno waving his arms around and going into heated discussions with officials isn’t anything new. I like him doing the latter.
He was awfully quiet though, didn’t seem like an energized bunny in the first half either.
Don't care at this point as long as its never Bruno again.
Exactly.
Casemiro/Martinez would be be pick for vice-captain.
Varane wont play every game.
De Gea shouldnt be captain in a million years.
Casemiro as captain and Martinez as vice captain so Martinez can grow into the role longer term, Fernandes should never have been made de facto captain as he’s too individualistic and as shown yesterday when the chips are down he’s all about himself.
Quite easy to spot this made up kind of sh*t. These journalists have no accountability. I doubt any of the other players are looking beyond their own performances. Beyond Bruno there are no stand-out candidates and that's mainly down to them not being here long enough or lack of English.
Erik needs a word with Bruno to cut out the behaviour. He could also start with resting him a bit more and not shunting him out wide all the time and especially not on the left.
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Varane or Cas. They have that mixture of leadership, experience, and level headedness (most of the time) but are still fiery. Martinez is probably too fiery. The likes of Martinez and Bruno can still be leaders, but probably need a Cas type to pull them in when needed.
Casemiro as Captain is a horrific shout same as Martinez. Just because you are the best on the team does not mean you automatically should be Captain, anyone with any sort of football knowledge will know that the qualities to be a Captain are different from that of being a quality player
Sadly there isn’t a captain amongst any of the favoured 11.The hated Maguire and Mct are probably closest to it but they won’t be around much longer.
Sadly there isn’t a captain amongst any of the favoured 11.The hated Maguire and Mct are probably closest to it but they won’t be around much longer.
We're in a bit of a difficult situation here, our only long establishing player is clearly no captain material and that's not even bringing up his uncertain future while those who possibly are captain materials have just gotten here (varane,Martinez and casemiro) which in the case of the latter there also exists language concerns.
I don't think there really is an obvious answer here but I guess of i had to pick I'd pick between either casemiro or Martinez, with the former you get the benefit of having a player who could be everywhere on the pitch (im sure he'll get the language thing fixed up in no time) while with the latter you get the benefit of possibly having a longstanding captain in case he becomes a longstay of our team which is quite possible considering his age and quality.
I suppose it bears mentioning that varane would have been my first choice was it not for his less than stellar injury record.
I don't think there really is an obvious answer here but I guess of i had to pick I'd pick between either casemiro or Martinez, with the former you get the benefit of having a player who could be everywhere on the pitch (im sure he'll get the language thing fixed up in no time) while with the latter you get the benefit of possibly having a longstanding captain in case he becomes a longstay of our team which is quite possible considering his age and quality.
I suppose it bears mentioning that varane would have been my first choice was it not for his less than stellar injury record.