Just drop Ali for an extra bowler. Don't need this much batting depth plus Root can bowl a few.
ICC Cricket World Cup 2019
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Peak pakistan performance that 
Although horrible for me from a fantasy pov but feck that.
Although horrible for me from a fantasy pov but feck that.
I really like Wood but I just don't think that him ,Woakes and Archer is the best balance. Not really sure how but Plunkett always manages wickets in the middle overs which is the most important thing in Odi cricket
Before the first game, I was thinking what's Plunkett doing in this team.
Now I'm thinking, what's he doing out of this team.
Say what you want, Pakistan just won't lost that unpredictable tag and for good reason. I was 50/50 going into this before hand. England seemed way too confident. Their bowling to Pakistan was also very naive, bowling short as if their some minnows.
Wonderful cricket. Now watch them lose to Afghanistan
Wonderful cricket. Now watch them lose to Afghanistan
How about a valuable and quick 15-20 runs or maybe hanging there and scoring some good runs when the team in down. Like I said never seen him do that. Woakes has done that from time to time. Point is if given the choice I would have Woakes ahead of Jadeja or even Ashwin the batsmen ahead of Jadeja.
I was certain that he was going to get dropped at some stage but he bowled well today which is a problem for England
Although it's no comparison, he reminds me of Akhtar and 90's Pakistan bowlers. The rest of the current batch don't seem to have that aggression they were always known for.
One huge mistake England made today was that Buttler should have come in after Morgan . Buttler would have smashed hafeez and Malik out of the attack and put pressure on Pakistan while the left handed stokes did the opposite
Said this in a separate thread but England give away these big scores too often. You can't keep conceding 350 and hope to chase it down.
Very sloppy fielding performance today but let's hope they bounce back. Would consider bringing Curran in for Woakes, which is harsh because he batted brilliantly. Just feel like Curran is Woakes' equal with the bat and he's got more variations.
Fair play to Pakistan. Must be so frustrating supporting them though!
Very sloppy fielding performance today but let's hope they bounce back. Would consider bringing Curran in for Woakes, which is harsh because he batted brilliantly. Just feel like Curran is Woakes' equal with the bat and he's got more variations.
Fair play to Pakistan. Must be so frustrating supporting them though!
Knew Pakistan would win after that total.
Pakistan dropped two catches and a stumping if I'm not wrong.
Pakistan won't win enough matches to qualify imo. They played really well today but I see them winning 5 matches which probably won't be enough
Say what you want, Pakistan just won't lost that unpredictable tag and for good reason. I was 50/50 going into this before hand. England seemed way too confident. Their bowling to Pakistan was also very naive, bowling short as if their some minnows.
Wonderful cricket. Now watch them lose to Afghanistan
Their next game is against SL. Very good opportunity to beat them and get some momentum before facing India. I won't be surprised if come June 16th Pakistan has more points than India and are more confident.
Ali was our best bowler today. 3 for 50 Wood was second with 2 for 53. Woakes got 3 wickets but an economy of 8.88 is just not good enough in ODI.
This is Pakistan. They might lose to Sri Lanka (okay very unlikely) and beat India (okay, also unlikely). But yeah I think they'll do find versus the lankans.
Pak India will be close now at least. India will win it though. England started believing their own hype while the Indian team seems to know their vulnerability quite well.
For some reason I see India losing to S.A which will then put them on a winning streak to get to the top 4 at which stage anything can happen.
Which tells you how shit England's effort was.
I suspect this is was a better bowling line up than the one England faced in the warm ups.
You're gonna play wounded saffers who I can't see losing 3 on the bounce.
It is.
Said during the innings, England might do with a loss today. Were getting too confident. As for India, well India are always a slow starters in WC and I also have a nervy feeling that India might lose to a rejuvenated SA. The problem is India have a tough set of matches. After SA, they play Aus and then NZ and then Pak. SO by the time we play Pak we might either have found our groove and look invincible or just lose all the three and are under immense pressure. I truly hope it is the former.
I agree. The only problem is that I think he bowled the best of the 3 of them in my opinion.
My point is England weren't that much worse than Pakistan in the field. You can't put this loss on fielding imo.
This tournament is really really open at the moment . England can easily lose to one of their next couple of opponents and come under serious pressure
Shadab makes a huge difference to the team.
Pre WC I wanted him and Archer but considering Moeen can't buy a run right now Woakes has to play and I don't think Archer will be dropped after 1 bad game
Wahab has played lot of county cricket and you can see it in his cricket . Unlike other fast bowlers from the subcontinent he is very good in the field and can bat . He is so safe under the ball for catches
Shadab, Wahab and Amir are class. Never been a fan of Hassan Ali.
I'd play Tom Curran. He'd of got those runs at the end and I don't think he'd of gone for 8+ an over.
Won us CT17 though but has been off form for a while.
Nothing to do with fielding, yes England were sloppy but Root being dropped early easily evened that out. Poor batting from England did it, Roy, Morgan and Stokes didn't turn up with the bat, one of them stay in for 5 more overs or an in form Mo and England should have won comfortably.
It's funny how the feelings about Pak cricketers changes so quickly. Wahab is going to get smashed around pretty soon
Looking at his significant scores, he has:
95 (92)
34 (19)
68 (83)
39 (27)
53 (36)
78 (82)
he also has a few not so fast 30s.
Ill compare to Jadeja (averages 29.9 in ODIs)
60 (77)
30 (17)
57 (103)
61 (61)
78 (89)
61 (37)
47 (29)
66 (45)
62 (54)
87 (68)
Be the judge yourself.
It's almost like they're inconsistent, erratic cricketers in an inconsistent, erratic cricket team.
Fcuking brillianttttt
Such a good bowling performance, if we took our catches and put slip fielders it could've been a more convincing victory.
Such a good bowling performance, if we took our catches and put slip fielders it could've been a more convincing victory.
Wahab is far too inconsistent however, he did bowl one of the fiercest spells I've ever seen in the last WC.
Good for him. Still don't rate him. Don't get me wrong I would love to see Jadeja banging some runs and winning us matches but till then I would always see him as a guy who doesn't deliver with the bat when it matters. I don't see him as a match winner by any means. Again, happy to be proven wrong this WC.
Yeah but someone a few posts back was saying that Wahab is class when he gets dropped every year after 1-2 great performances followed by lots of rubbish
Yeah, I don't really rate him as a hitter but neither is Woakes. Just look through his ODI innings', there isn't a lot there.
Years ago. Since the whenever he comes on seems very one dimensional.