ICC Champions Trophy 2025

Agree. I think the ICC should've made it a shared tournament between Pakistan and the UAE venues. It's not a long flight.

There are also at least 3 venues in UAE, so I don't know why only one's hosting the game.
but its not like today's result would have been different if it was played in Lahore?
Low hanging fruit to blame UAE schedule, (topic for another forum tbh), Pak security "impression" and I repeat its how they are perceived by others, is a major concern. Given right wing majority in India, the risks are greater. I dont think I would blame them, majority is right leaning in India, right-wrong-indifferent.

Back to cricket, Abrar needs to be given more chances with a better back up spinner. Drop catches and India was always going to win, looking forward to play Aus vs Ind Semi (still remember 2011 Yuvi innigs in my home town)
 
I think we could have travelled to Pakistan for this tournament. To optimise, all of our games could have taken place in Lahore, which is 60-90 mins drive from Amritsar. I get that we have not travelled to Pakistan since 26/11 attack but we did a full tour there some years after the Kargil year so the current stance is some what over done now.
It may just be my perception but the Sri Lankan incident has coloured my view. I wouldn’t be ok with india touring Pakistan. I do wish we’d play them in neutral venues for bilaterals.
 
It's not like India are refusing to play in Pakistan because we don't feel like it. It's history that goes back 100 years and it's just not a good idea for India to play _in_ Pakistan. Regardless of how much of ICC's revenue is from India, it's right of ICC to accomodate India. The manner in which they go about it is stupid, though.

Bullsh*t. It's not the right of ICC to accommodate India, they never accommodated anyone else when they decided to boycott a match or not play in a country for security reasons before.

Every county in the world is willing to travel to Pakistan but India for some reason doesn't even want to send a security team to look at the situation. Indian journalists are here, other Indian teams have come. Nothing has ever happened to an Indian team the countless times they've traveled to Pakistan during their 100 years of history, same for Pakistan in India.

It's political nonsense and the ICC won't say anything because of BCCI's money.
 
Stating the obvious here for anyone who doesn't know - the currnet chairman of ICC (and ex-BCCI head) Jay Shah is son of Amit Shah, Modi's right hand man/rumored enforcer-in-chief and current Indian minister for Home Affairs. ICC not only relies on BCCI for financial reasons, but is also directly influenced (if not controlled) by the Indian government at this moment.

*If* something were to happen to the Indian team while in Pakistan, I don't think the current folks in power would even the consider the optics of a non-extreme response. I don't think I would be exaggerating if I said that any act of harm against the Indian cricket team would be interpreted as an act of war. Given the political instability in Pakistan, and the multitude of foreign actors with enough motivation to destabilize the geopolitics of this part of the world, I think it is entirely understandable why India wouldn't take even the minutest of risks to let such events unfold.

Should a single governing party in one cricketing nation have so much sway over a sport? Absolutely not. Should fairness of the game be affected because of this influence? Again, no. Does it make sense why India is playing in Dubai instead of Rawalpindi or Lahore? I think so, yes. It is unfair to the other cricketing sides, especially the Pakistan cricket team, but that's how things are.

Today's game was fun to watch, though. Started the game with more expectations from Gill than Kohli, to be honest - our best batsmen are our openers right now. The first two wickets were taken by unplayable deliveries, it's incredible how often Pakistan seem to have an unssailable bowling outfit and still manage to lose their way.
 
Bullsh*t. It's not the right of ICC to accommodate India, they never accommodated anyone else when they decided to boycott a match or not play in a country for security reasons before.

Every county in the world is willing to travel to Pakistan but India for some reason doesn't even want to send a security team to look at the situation. Indian journalists are here, other Indian teams have come. Nothing has ever happened to an Indian team the countless times they've traveled to Pakistan during their 100 years of history, same for Pakistan in India.

It's political nonsense and the ICC won't say anything because of BCCI's money.
Its completely stupid to compare security concern to Indian team to any other team, we are talking about 2 countries hate each other. Its completely understandable Government don't want to take risk.

Also ICC knows India's stand on playing in Pakistan, so why host tournament in there completely knowing India will not come and you have to give special privilege to Indian team, this tournament can easily co-hosted by Pakistan and UAE, and could make everyone happy.
 
Bullsh*t. It's not the right of ICC to accommodate India, they never accommodated anyone else when they decided to boycott a match or not play in a country for security reasons before.

It shouldn't be in theory, and I get why other team supporters, especially Pakistan's, would feel that this is unfair. It is unfair, and it can't be justified. However, in the rest of the post:

Every county in the world is willing to travel to Pakistan but India for some reason doesn't even want to send a security team to look at the situation. Indian journalists are here, other Indian teams have come. Nothing has ever happened to an Indian team the countless times they've traveled to Pakistan during their 100 years of history, same for Pakistan in India.

It's political nonsense and the ICC won't say anything because of BCCI's money.

While a lot of it is due to undeniable and unfair BCCI money, it's also a major secrurity risk. Goes without saying but:
1) Don't think other countries have the tense geopolitical history that India/Pakistan share,
2) Don't think other sports teams from India have as much following/cultural and national significance as the men's cricket team

While Pakistani security and politics might have improved since the 2009 terror attack on the Sri Lankan team, do you genuinely think that a repeat of the same, with potential injuries to the likes of Kohli, Rohit, Jadeja, Bumrah will be met with anything less than military response by the Indian government and a spiral of escalations in response from Pakistan? However small that risk might be, you cannot deny that it exists, and that there would be parties interested in provoking such a response (LeT has even more motivation now after Article 370) with the means to make it happen. Is it truly worth it for either country?
 
back to cricket again, Babar and co lack the fire power that England, Aus, India and probably SA got.
This CT format is brutal as if you lose the first game gets increasing difficult. Ind is probably thru, most likely going to face Aus (I think Aus lose against SA).
Pak will need to win and win big against Bangladesh, even then probably they are out.

Want to see Ind vs Aus Final though, one more time.

Edit: Rana replaces Siraj, long overdue in my opinion.