That's because our middle order hasn't had the chance to showcase their talent (this tournament). After Dhawan, Sharma and Kohli (top 3) we have Yuvi, Dhoni, Kedar, Pandya, Jadeja and Ashwin who can bat.
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That's because our middle order hasn't had the chance to showcase their talent (this tournament). After Dhawan, Sharma and Kohli (top 3) we have Yuvi, Dhoni, Kedar, Pandya, Jadeja and Ashwin who can bat.
Well if India win, then
The SA chase against Australia as has been mentioned. England smashing 444 against Pakistan last year was pretty incredible.
India have technically and more experienced batsman who are in incredible form. No I would not rate India getting 339 as I did Pakatan getting 338
All bets are off in a final. Stop peddling this.
Well if India win, then
The SA chase against Australia as has been mentioned. England smashing 444 against Pakistan last year was pretty incredible.
In glorified friendlies, not in a world tournament final as a massive underdog. Please understand nuance and context.
I'm struggling with your logic here. You're basically saying Pakistan are shit and thus a good performance should be heralded as the best ever. It makes Zero sense.
One thing I can say, the bowling from India wasn't great (exept Bhuvi). Bumrah gave so many extras, jadeja was being taken for a ride and Ashwin was shite. Still think we would win. Our batting is too strong.
says who? You??? Big deal.
makes perfect sense to me
Nottinghamshire chased 370 in a semi-final the other day, it's a different era of cricket we are living in. 300 is an absolute minimum nowadays.
Which is a big problem.
how ere they not just friendlies? Did the games have any meaning aside from being warm ups to test and T20's?
Ok.
Says anyone who has watched ever watched an actual final. Like Wigan vs. Man City for example.
Credit where it is due: Pakistan batted brilliantly. It might not have been the best of all time like @sammsky1 says but it's definitely up there given the pressure of the finals and this being India vs Pak after all.
I think it is 70-30 to Pak going into the start of the second innings. They've done the hard work and can only lose from here.
I think it is 70-30 to Pak going into the start of the second innings. They've done the hard work and can only lose from here.
You did say yourself "that has to be the best ever batting performance in ODI history."
ODI history includes stuff outside ICC tournaments....
Good but that doesn't make it any less stupid.
All of the indians here were predicting a wipeout and an easy victory, we still might lose but have given ourselves a fighting chance.
BTW: Im not even a Pakistan fan and generally dislike the modern day team. But I'm amazed at what they did just now.
Well my Indian supporting mate was certain Pakistan were going to do them today, in the script he said.
because you are the arbiter of what is intelligent? Okie then.
Yes, maybe but the talent doesn't just go away - lack of match practice may be an issue but they still have the ability.
So unless an ODI is a final, its just a friendly? Cool story.. How an ODI is a warm up to a test match or a fecking T20, I wont even get into.
Sorry, i forgot to add the white text. No way could today's innings be called the greatest ever.
Anyway at least we have a contest & as a Pakistan fan that's the least I wanted. We've shown fight with the bat & now the bowlers have to back it up.
India are capable of chasing this down. Our bowling will have to be spot on throughout. Will be interesting how Shadab & Imad get played. Should be a good chase.
India are capable of chasing this down. Our bowling will have to be spot on throughout. Will be interesting how Shadab & Imad get played. Should be a good chase.
I didn't say that. But to score 338 in a final when most were predicting a score of less than 250 beforehand is quite spectacular.
Who do you support? Please don't say Bangladesh.
No, its just that any discussion requires a basic amount of common sense and your arguments are struggling to make the cut here. Then again, you'd probably call these the best series of posts in caf history citing a shit history as the reason.
I mean come on, you're calling ODI matches friendlies just because they arent finals and then somehow claim those games were warm up matches and that too for Test and T20 cricket. Its a head scratcher.
I'm a neutral as far as India and Pakistan are concerned.
You're pulling stuff out of thin air now.
I'm not convinced thats a particularly scary lower middle order. Pandya's talented, but a hot head and I wouldn't bank on him. Dhoni's powers are on the wane. Yuvraj is inconsistent and I wouldn't want to rely on Jadeja and Ashwin as competent as they are. Jadhav is a good player, but inexperienced at this level.
I've probably just put on the use impressive set of mockers ever seen, but I can't see the middle order pulling it off here if the top order fails.
Yeah, I dont doubt the ability.
Gone!!
Wow....
Just the start we needed! Amir you beauty
So what predictions for the match??
I'm going to call it: Pakistan to bowl India out and win by 20 or so runs
I'm going to call it: Pakistan to bowl India out and win by 20 or so runs