I genuinely think Beckham would be a great signing.

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Right, this is not knee-jerk as this is a sentiment that I have expressed many times before, and has been met with mixed reactions. I'd appreciate if people actually read my thoughts on this and didn't jump to the default "he's past it" argument - even if he was, I still think it would be a good move.

Look at the facts though. At the moment, United lack three things in my opinions - experience, creativity through midfield and drive.

Beckham comes with all of these things and more. In addition to increased revenue from merchandise sales, and a boost in morale from a club legend returning, he is also a model professional and someone for all the young players in the club to look up to. He would be a fantastic influence - who better to teach them that United is a special club than someone who left United only to regret it thereafter?

But not only this, he would deflect news away from the younger players of the team - with Beckham comes the "Beckham circus", which would seem counter-productive. It isn't though. Journalists will write about United even when there isn't a story. However, when all of the media is focused on David Beckham and not Anderson, Nani, Phil Jones or De Gea, it puts them out of the spotlight and allows them to quietly play their game knowing that they are not the players under the most scrutiny while Beckham is there. Also, I think some of the midfield needs a kick up the arse, and to be forced to compete for a place - Beckham would give 100% for United, and that could spur on the likes of Anderson and Jones to try that extra bit harder to cement their place on the team-sheet ahead of him. I think he could really help with the breaking on of younger players in that regard, which is an issue people have brought up before. Quietly influential, determined and proud to wear the shirt would be just the ticket to show younger players how its done.

He provides all of this, without even kicking a football.

Now, I know a lot of you will say he is past it, but he isn't. It's no tall order, but he is STILL clearly the pick of the bunch in the MLS. He is still in impeccable shape. Beckham has come on in years, but his passing, crossing and set-pieces are better than ever. This is something United really lack, in my opinion. He's lost his pace - but he was never blessed with much to begin with - and he certainly never relied on it - unlike Giggsy (who is older, and now one of our best performers in centre mid).

He might not be the solution to everything in midfield, I certainly don't think he would be - but he would be a fantastic player to have on the squad. He'd add a new dimension to the midfield. He'd add a new, more straight-forward option when, like today, our other midfielders aren't performing. Imagine the service Hernandez would get from his crosses and set-pieces. Imagine the interplay between himself and Berbatov. Hell, just imagine a United corner beating the first man for once. It could be sublime.

In my opinion, it would be worth the shot. He'd nearly play for free for United, we need a creative player, we need some influence,we need some drive - Beckham is a short-term solution that fixes all of these problems, giving time for the younger players to come through - ideal, at least inmy opinion.

Brooklyn is now 13 and is training with the LA Galaxy youth team as well, so could be a good long-term investment! ;)

This is usually an opinion people get flamed on here for holding, but I hope you can see that, while it might first appear silly, nostalgic and far-fetched, there is indeed some logic to bringing him back (even if you don't agree with the idea).
 
For those of you who actually have not watched him play, as I have many times in Los Angeles, live in person over the past few years, he is completely past it.

It is not even worthy of discussion.
 
He could be a useful signing, it's very very difficult to judge whether he'd be any use in the Premier League based on his Major League Soccer performances though. He might just get completely overrun. I tend towards thinking it's worth a try.
 
If it goes wrong for Becks it would just bring unwanted criticism to the club and we'd be back to the we need a midfield argument.

Long term not short term please.
 
For those of you who actually have not watched him play, as I have many times in Los Angeles, live in person over the past few years, he is completely past it.

It is not even worthy of discussion.

MLS 2011 Final ESPN highlights! - YouTube

I've been following Galaxy pretty closely this year and respectfully disagree. He completely ran the final, he is just surrounded by dead weight. Put him with some class and he will flourish. I'd nearly guarantee it.
 
MLS 2011 Final ESPN highlights! - YouTube

I've been following Galaxy pretty closely this year and respectfully disagree. He completely ran the final, he is just surrounded by dead weight. Put him with some class and he will flourish. I'd nearly guarantee it.

Nope.

There's a reason he signing with the Galaxy and not PSG. He's past it.

Completely.

100% past it.

Or maybe you enjoy a guy standing around most of the game and occasionally kicking the ball. I'd love to know how that would work in the EPL.
 
Nope.

There's a reason he signing with the Galaxy and not PSG. He's past it.

Completely.

100% past it.

Or maybe you enjoy a guy standing around most of the game and occasionally kicking the ball. I'd love to know how that would work in the EPL.

It's working well for Berbatov lately!

Honestly though, if he signed for United for half a season, you'd have to feel he would up his game accordingly. He is completely running things for Galaxy, having a classy, skillful and experienced player on the United squad wouldn't be too bad a choice to have.
 
1. He's past it.
2. Check out the terms he's discussing with 'the galaxy'... there isn't a chance in hell he's going anywhere.
 
It would be an awful lot of hooplah for an albeit useful player who could only realistically get much game time against weaker opposition now. Berbafodder if you will
 
It's working well for Berbatov lately!

Honestly though, if he signed for United for half a season, you'd have to feel he would up his game accordingly. He is completely running things for Galaxy, having a classy, skillful and experienced player on the United squad wouldn't be too bad a choice to have.

No, he's not completely running things for The Galaxy. He makes the occasional run but is far slower than he ever was, often is completely out of position (unless you think a mid-fielder should be occasionally behind the defensive line,) and his passing is getting worse. The amount of time he spends yelling at the ref instead of playing the game has increased to epic proportions.

He can up his game for the occasional performance but that doesn't mean much considering his opponents in MLS.

That doesn't even begin to address what position he would play for United. Who would he be replacing?
 
I'd take him back on a 3 month loan - our injury list means we could do with an extra body in the squad at the moment

I reckon Fergie has probably even thought about it as a Larsson-esque stop gap - but he wouldnt want the whole circus that follows Beckham at Old Trafford so I doubt it will happen.
 
Beckham of 2012? Oh come on. For feck sake.
 
Now he mainly just hangs back and sprays the ball around the pitch. Don't get me wrong, he can still pass the ball better than most players, but his lack of mobility would be a huge problem in the PL. If we had somebody to do all the hurrying and defending and just passed it to him to do his thing it may work, but we don't.
 
I've mentioned it before, Beckham can still pass/create/cross with the best of them. Could be useful to bring on in a game where we're failing to create much. He would definately need to be part of a 3 man midfield/given a free role, though.

It will never happen, and tbh, I probably wouldn't like to see him come back and not perform well. However I am just pointing out that a shor-term loan where he is used very sparingly, in the right way, is not a completely ridiculous idea.
 
Meh. I'd rather have him in central midfield than Park or Rafael.
 
1. He's past it.
2. Check out the terms he's discussing with 'the galaxy'... there isn't a chance in hell he's going anywhere.

I agree this deal will never happen even though I would like it to happen. But hypothetically speaking, if United ask him to come play for them, then I don't think he is going to worry about the money situation now. He will want to end his career at United. Just saying.
 
Agree with AlwaysRedwood. He's past it and he's not what we need.

Would having Beckham playing have made a difference for us in the last two games? No. If we are to enter the market we need someone with bollocks in midfield as that's an area we lack, especially with Fletch out for at least four months.

Carrick, and I should preface this by saying I'm a big fan of his, doesn't press the play in the middle. He's not a harrier, he's an interceptor (this is all getting a bit aviation-ey hey chaps?). Fletch is to be honest much the same. It's not about having someone who will kick the opposition up in the air if they try to play it a bit, it's about having someone who will press them into mistakes, as we were pressed into giving the ball away time and again today. We need that a lot more than we need Beckham or a Sneijder type.

That's it for me tonight on here. First bring back O'Shea and now Beckham. I wonder what Miller and Djembax2 are up to these days?

Miller's at Perth Glory and they are close to bottom.

I went to see the Glory play yesterday and he was fecking rubbish.
 
Becks was fantastic when he was playing for us and of that there is no doubt.
But FFS he is past it and not good enough to play PL football.

We need a proper misfield playmaker , not a passed it player who would bring us nothing but a mass of press attention and we have enough of that already.
 
I have little doubt 2012 Becks could not hack it on the pitch... his 1st stint with Milan was his euro swansong... by the second time around he was a shadow of himself.

I don't want to bash the MLS as I have actually enjoyed some matches, and I think they are generally doing the right thing by slowly raising the profile of the game... but Becks should stay there and not come here.

Where he might be valuable to a team other than United, is in a mentoring role for some young unestablished newcomers... a team like Wigan or Bolton... Swansea maybe.
 
Right, this is not knee-jerk as this is a sentiment that I have expressed many times before, and has been met with mixed reactions. I'd appreciate if people actually read my thoughts on this and didn't jump to the default "he's past it" argument - even if he was, I still think it would be a good move.

Look at the facts though. At the moment, United lack three things in my opinions - experience, creativity through midfield and drive.

Beckham comes with all of these things and more. In addition to increased revenue from merchandise sales, and a boost in morale from a club legend returning, he is also a model professional and someone for all the young players in the club to look up to. He would be a fantastic influence - who better to teach them that United is a special club than someone who left United only to regret it thereafter?

But not only this, he would deflect news away from the younger players of the team - with Beckham comes the "Beckham circus", which would seem counter-productive. It isn't though. Journalists will write about United even when there isn't a story. However, when all of the media is focused on David Beckham and not Anderson, Nani, Phil Jones or De Gea, it puts them out of the spotlight and allows them to quietly play their game knowing that they are not the players under the most scrutiny while Beckham is there. Also, I think some of the midfield needs a kick up the arse, and to be forced to compete for a place - Beckham would give 100% for United, and that could spur on the likes of Anderson and Jones to try that extra bit harder to cement their place on the team-sheet ahead of him. I think he could really help with the breaking on of younger players in that regard, which is an issue people have brought up before. Quietly influential, determined and proud to wear the shirt would be just the ticket to show younger players how its done.

He provides all of this, without even kicking a football.

Now, I know a lot of you will say he is past it, but he isn't. It's no tall order, but he is STILL clearly the pick of the bunch in the MLS. He is still in impeccable shape. Beckham has come on in years, but his passing, crossing and set-pieces are better than ever. This is something United really lack, in my opinion. He's lost his pace - but he was never blessed with much to begin with - and he certainly never relied on it - unlike Giggsy (who is older, and now one of our best performers in centre mid).

He might not be the solution to everything in midfield, I certainly don't think he would be - but he would be a fantastic player to have on the squad. He'd add a new dimension to the midfield. He'd add a new, more straight-forward option when, like today, our other midfielders aren't performing. Imagine the service Hernandez would get from his crosses and set-pieces. Imagine the interplay between himself and Berbatov. Hell, just imagine a United corner beating the first man for once. It could be sublime.

In my opinion, it would be worth the shot. He'd nearly play for free for United, we need a creative player, we need some influence,we need some drive - Beckham is a short-term solution that fixes all of these problems, giving time for the younger players to come through - ideal, at least inmy opinion.

Brooklyn is now 13 and is training with the LA Galaxy youth team as well, so could be a good long-term investment! ;)

This is usually an opinion people get flamed on here for holding, but I hope you can see that, while it might first appear silly, nostalgic and far-fetched, there is indeed some logic to bringing him back (even if you don't agree with the idea).

One fact to consider is how bad he was when AC Milan played United - couldn't get a kick and the game passed him by.

He was fantastic for United when he was here but his time at the top level is up. The fact that he's staying in the USA playing with average players and journeymen at what is probabaly second or third division standard tells you all you need to know - he doesn't even think he can cut it in Europe anymore.

He's too old and his legs have gone, no shame in it, it happens to every player eventually and he's had a fantastic career.
 
He could probably do a job when we're dominating a match against poor opposition, looking brilliant at it.

But then we might as well coax Scholes out of retirement, and it's not going to help us in really competitive matches. He'd have been absolutely battered yesterday.
 
Good God. I've seen Liverpool fans calling for Fowler to return, Gooners praying for Henry to bring magic back to Arsenal and now Beckham to United?

No. Just no.
 
One fact to consider is how bad he was when AC Milan played United - couldn't get a kick and the game passed him by.

He was fantastic for United when he was here but his time at the top level is up. The fact that he's staying in the USA playing with average players and journeymen at what is probabaly second or third division standard tells you all you need to know - he doesn't even think he can cut it in Europe anymore.

He's too old and his legs have gone, no shame in it, it happens to every player eventually and he's had a fantastic career.

To be fair to him, AC were absolutely horrible that game and no one on the team were getting a kick. I do recall that he should of had an assist though.

You can't use one game to dismiss his otherwise good body of work for AC.

I think he would be useful as a deep lying midfielder like Pirlo and would add something different.

At least we'd stop hitting free kicks into the wall and stop taking corners that don't even reach the first post before hitting a defender.
 
I have a theory.

Well, everyone knows playing against 10 men is harder than 11, right? Right.

We play Beckham, but only for set pieces: Corners, Free Kicks, Goal Kicks, Kick Offs, Drop Kicks ect ect.
 
I have a theory.

Well, everyone knows playing against 10 men is harder than 11, right? Right.

We play Beckham, but only for set pieces: Corners, Free Kicks, Goal Kicks, Kick Offs, Drop Kicks ect ect.

Genuine :lol: