Hypothetical Question: Mourinho or Pep as United Manager?

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Let's assume Whelan is right and Fergie call's it a day at the end of the coming season, whom you would you want to replace him? Jose or Pep?

I am not implying that both the managers are interested and willing, this is just a hypothetical question about which one of these two will you want.
 
Without wanting to rouse all the Barca fanbois!

I want to see Pep succeed at a club without the most gifted squad in the history of football before he is given a shot at United.

Roberto Di Matteo has shown how difficult it is to judge a managers ability with a limited sample.

Things going for Pep are his style of football and his ability to poach some Barca youth talent for us.

That said, there are many top players that would join because of Mourinho too.
 
it is Jose for me. Pep will not find much use for the typical Brit players available to United, via feeder clubs and youth system. Will not suit his style.
How can I make this a vote?
 
I'll go with Pep as well. Young manager who at the right club would stay for a long period of time and still maintain the attacking football and youth policy.
 
Jimy_Hills_Chin said:
Without wanting to rouse all the Barca fanbois!

I want to see Pep succeed at a club without the most gifted squad in the history of football before he is given a shot at United.

Roberto Di Matteo has shown how difficult it is to judge a managers ability with a limited sample.

Things going for Pep are his style of football and his ability to poach some Barca youth talent for us.

That said, there are many top players that would join because of Mourinho too.
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I doubt they would play for pep, its barca that their loyal to
 
Wonder if they would work as a co-manager team at United? Neville as assistant, Phelan as erm.... cone manager
 
ryan_forlan said:
Let's assume Whelan is right and Fergie call's it a day at the end of the coming season, whom you would you want to replace him? Jose or Pep?

I am not implying that both the managers are interested and willing, this is just a hypothetical question about which one of these two will you want.
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Jose for me - proven track record, succesful wherever he goes and the best "reactive" manager I've evr seen in terms of being able to make tactical decisions and change the game. Also think he'd stick at United longer term as he's now managed everywhere esle - as well as (if you believe the press around it) being very keen on the job and suceeding Fergie.

Pep may be an all time great, he is clearly talented - big question is whether he can win without four or five of the world's best players in his team, and can identify talent without being able to rely on the Barca conveyor belt. I also doubt how long he'll actually remain in football management.

For me following Fergie is the toughest managerial job ever - but Jose has the stregth of personality to deal with it and not be compared to Fergie.
 
RedSky At Night said:
I'll go with Pep as well. Young manager who at the right club would stay for a long period of time and still maintain the attacking football and youth policy.
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Based on what? He's just left the club closest to his heart, despite having one of the greatest squads ever assembled, because he's tired and he needs time off and/or a new challenge.

How that equates to staying "long term" I don't know. If Barca isn't the "right club" for Pep then what club is?

And besides - no club has a youth policy like Barca. he is the man who benefitted from it, not the man who created it. It all goes back to Cruyff.
 
What RedRover said.

Bizarre to think Pep would stay anywhere for the long term afterr what has just happened with him at the club he loves.
 
Tough one, I'd go with Mourinho though & that would be based on him having more experience of the English game which included a successful stint in the Premier League already.
 
Mourinho's short-termism has been overstated, I think.

He left Porto for a bigger club, bigger league. He's ambitious, we know that. But he did not choose to leave Chelsea, that was down to Abramovich who has proven time and again that no manager is good enough for him.

He also hated Italian football, it simply wasn't for him. Can see why although at first it seemed a perfect fit for someone of his ego and personality. Now he's just signed a new contract with Real Madrid where he's thriving, it seems to indicate that he might consider spending a long time at a club where he genuinely enjoys himself.

It's his confrontational nature that can lead to problems and then to abrupt, early departures. But I'm not sure he necessarily views himself as a short-termist manager, like Guttmann Béla.
 
Mourinho, hands down.

I have a hunch that Guardiola will be outside his comfort zone away from Barcelona..
 
To be honest I'm not sure I'd particularly want either of them however part of me wants Mourinho because he's a guarantee to remain sucessful.
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
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RedSky At Night said:
I'll go with Pep as well. Young manager who at the right club would stay for a long period of time and still maintain the attacking football and youth policy.
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Why would he stay for a long period of time? What is that based on?
 
If I had to pick from them 2, I'd go with Mourinho. He knows the english game, and has learned from mistakes at passed clubs.

Thing is Mourinho jumps ship when he sees fit, or when "my project is done", so would be wary of him coming anywhere near the OT hotseat. Think next step for him is international managment though.
 
I would have said Guardiola largely because of the fact that he would maybe be willing to stay here and build a project, but his recent comments don't make him look anymore committed than Mourinho, if he is willing to take another job after saying he would be taking a break.

Anyway, Guardiola is the one who I think matches our philosophy better. He'd want us to play good football, which the club has been known for, while he'd give the youngsters a chance as well. Despite that, he's been exposed as having several flaws last season (2011/2012) and I'd say that Mourinho is the better all-round manager out of the two.

Although, we know what comes with Mourinho. There will be controversy with him, and he's the sort of man who could destroy the clubs reputation in a sentence. I would still take him though, because he can bring success. I don't particularly mind if others hate the club though, because most who don't support us already do. More hate doesn't really affect us negatively at all.

Anyone who wouldn't be willing to take either of the two though, and would rather have someone like O'Neill take charge, needs their head checked to be honest.
 
Mourinho remains the only manager in the world who wouldn't be phased by the shadow of Ferguson least in my view. Think most would find it daunting, a strain and find it difficult to get the crowd round once it is lost.
 
Siorac said:
Mourinho's short-termism has been overstated, I think.

He left Porto for a bigger club, bigger league. He's ambitious, we know that. But he did not choose to leave Chelsea, that was down to Abramovich who has proven time and again that no manager is good enough for him.

He also hated Italian football, it simply wasn't for him. Can see why although at first it seemed a perfect fit for someone of his ego and personality. Now he's just signed a new contract with Real Madrid where he's thriving, it seems to indicate that he might consider spending a long time at a club where he genuinely enjoys himself.

It's his confrontational nature that can lead to problems and then to abrupt, early departures. But I'm not sure he necessarily views himself as a short-termist manager, like Guttmann Béla.
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I agree - he's been vocal about coming back to the PL, he's already managed the tops sides in Italy and Spain so if he did take over at United, where else would he go? he may manage Portugal one day but he's said it'll be when he's older.

I reckon he would relish the chance to try and match what Fergie's done in terms of bringing long term success to United.
 
Why is Pep suddenly a quitter? He spent years at Barca and we dont really know what was happening behind closed doors.

While Mourinho is proven, not just in England, it would be less of a risk. Pep did very well at Barca, but can he do that with any other team?
 
If it was a choice between the 2, i'd want Guardiola. Only slightly edges mourinho in my book and i wouldnt mind him either.

Dont want Moyes anywhere near the job.
 
Mourinho

Pros - Knows the league and is a big enough personality for the job. Is a definite winner like Fergie.

Cons - Doesnt stick around long at clubs and for a fan base use to longevity thats a problem. Would he work under a budget again?

Guardiola

Pros - Undoubtedly talented as a manager and would bring a highly effective and enjoyable style of play

Cons- We dont know if we can do it at a team without the likes of Messi or Xavi also hasnt coached in England before.

For me Mourinho just shades it if only for his experience in England and the fact Guardiola might not see himself at United for the long haul.
 
Siorac said:
Mourinho's short-termism has been overstated, I think.

He left Porto for a bigger club, bigger league. He's ambitious, we know that. But he did not choose to leave Chelsea, that was down to Abramovich who has proven time and again that no manager is good enough for him.

He also hated Italian football, it simply wasn't for him. Can see why although at first it seemed a perfect fit for someone of his ego and personality. Now he's just signed a new contract with Real Madrid where he's thriving, it seems to indicate that he might consider spending a long time at a club where he genuinely enjoys himself.

It's his confrontational nature that can lead to problems and then to abrupt, early departures. But I'm not sure he necessarily views himself as a short-termist manager, like Guttmann Béla.
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Yep, i'd actually go the other way totally and say that if he comes here, we'd be assured of a long reign unless something drastic happens. The reason being he's already won titles at every big league so there's no other challenge that might come up. I dont see a manager of his ilk settling for a national job so soon either so it doesnt leave him with any reason to go elsewhere specially considering he's already said that he wants to settle in England. We're a club known to give the manager a free reign so it'l be ideal for him.

If Mourinho comes here, i'd say its highly likely he'l stay a while..
 
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