Because scared meat is bad meat. You get less for it.
Yes, I wax the dolphin's head over pest control.
bad enough doing it but coming on here to brag about it puts you on par with the guy in the gen complaining about the size of his wedding tackle.
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bad enough doing it but coming on here to brag about it puts you on par with the guy in the gen complaining about the size of his wedding tackle.
He certainly need to compensate something....
What, helping my family make a living by driving cattle to a slaughter house to make your tea in a month?
I best not tell you I have also worked as a butcher.
Saints RL MUFC you've gotta admit killing foxes for fun is cruel. So what if a foxs kills a chicken for food, that's what the farmer was going to do it anyway.
Actually, we didn't we used them for eggs. Quite a profitable industry is the local egg trade.
I haven't called it fun, I have called it pest control.
Photography is wrong? Well I suppose if I was photographing little children fingering each others bums...
...Oh, you mean my stance on pest control is wrong?
fecking hell. Three pages in an hour or so.
I'll get back to this thread later as I have to go but christ.. You call hunting cruel while you sit and eat supermarket meat from animals who have grown up in what you could describe as death camps while these animals live their whole lives in the free. There's nothing cruel about serious hunting. The animals die in a second. There are limits as to how many animals that needs to be shoot etc. Have a go at Halal butchering or something, this is ridiculous.
I'll get back to this thread later as I have to go but christ.. You call hunting cruel while you sit and eat supermarket meat from animals who have grown up in what you could describe as death camps while these animals live their whole lives in the free. There's nothing cruel about serious hunting. The animals die in a second. There are limits as to how many animals that needs to be shoot etc. Have a go at Halal butchering or something, this is ridiculous.
As Elizabeth has already pointed out she is vegitarian as am I so does this mean I am just in calling you a complete and utter cnut?
A very good choice of tagline Elizabeth :wink:
I'd love to hunt, hunters.
We could class it as a sport.
We could class it as a sport.
We could drop them naked in the woods and chase them with high-tech equipment. I saw a great episode of Cold Case about that.
Anyone who takes another life for fun is scum. And yes I do live in the country, you're all a bunch of cnuts. Its not feckin sport, its cowardly. If you really want to hunt why not hunt something that can fight back? Or better yet just have a gun fight with yourself.
So we have established that the barriers to hunting are because it is perceived as a fun sport, rather than pest control?
No.
So the objection to hunting as a means of pest control is?
It's intolerabley cruel, unneccesary and shouldn't take place. Why isn't such a parade made of rat catching, and why are there no toffs on horseback chasing down the Grey Squirrel? Pest control, pffft. Like we have a right to feck with the eco system to such an extent that 'pest control' can be cited as justice for a fox killing captive livestock.
So what alternatives do you suggest to manage the fox population?
Does shooting rats and grey squirrels count as hunting?
There it is again - 'manage' the population. Perhaps killing them isn't the proper way of going about it in the first place? Just a thought.
Actually, in certain wooded areas of Britain, there are crack teams EMPLOYED to kill grey squirrels.
So how would you suggest you manage the population?
Wait a minute here. The government ban fox hunting but approve Taliban hunting!!
Where abouts?
Birth control!
fecking hell, evolved women have enough trouble remembering the Jack and Jill, and semi intelligent chavs can't put a jonny on right, how the feck would foxes manage?
In Sussex
Well, for a start, we shouldn't have to manage the population. Fox hunting doesn't kill enough foxes to really count as pest control, infact I bet there are ten times more foxes killed by cars and disease than by hunting.
Managing, or, culling certain species of animal to control the population is a very slippery and controversial slope. For a start, it's an eco-system, which means every action has a reaction. For example, foxes numbers go down, what happens to the rabbits, or badgers, or other animals that are either competitors to or prey of the fox? You mentioned the Grey Squirrel hunters, employed because of mistakes made in the past when introducing new species to a system. I could also point you in the direction of the Chinese government that killed millions of sparrows which resulted in millions of humans dying of starvation. I'm not saying it's the same thing, make sure you realise that, I'm just trying to illustrate a point. Infact I'm sure you know this, which is why I'm baffled as to how someone can honestly support something so fecking twatish.
Why is this in the entertainment forum?
But you haven't answered the question. How would you manage the population?
But to retort. When dogs were used, hunts would stay out until they killed a certain number of foxes, usually between 3 and 5. This happens twice a week in hunting areas. It doesn't endanger the foxes, but doesn't eradicate them, it keeps their numbers at a healthy level so minimal damage is caused to livestock. It is an eco system that has successfully managed for nigh on 300 years, and is done for free, to save having to pay people like ukbob (no offence bob). Since hunting with dogs was banned, rural fox populations soared and rural economies slipped. Read into that what you will.
Yeah but why is this in the entertainment forum?
The OP put it in the wrong place, as per his second post.
Who's this OP character?
Do you take your horse inside you living room? No, right? Exactly. You can't bring your dogs and foxes and what not in our entertainment room either.
Do you take your horse inside you living room? No, right? Exactly. You can't bring your dogs and foxes and what not in our entertainment room either.
Original poster.
So you're killing foxes to stop them eating the animals we farm and kill for our food. Ever thought we are the real pests?
I wonder who managed the fox population for the thousands of years before they was hunted.
Questioning whether humans are pests is pointless. We have evolved, and control the land.
In the days prior to fox hunting, farming wasn't done like it is today. Fox hunting developed with the farming revolutions of the 17th and 18th century. Farming was done communally on the common land.
Cause it's ....err......err.......ummm..yeah why is it in the entertaining forum?
Fair play to you Saints, you have stood your stance on this subject and defended this thread and your views well, buy answering everyone's questions.
It'll always be a matter of opinion, but my opinion is that it's cruel.
I live in a busy part of Manchester, and my dog once befriended a fox and brought it into the kitchen and let the fox eat his dinner. I'm not sure if my dog was just trying to banging it, but the fox kept coming back for a few weeks. I thought it was a pretty cool creature.
It'll always be a matter of opinion, but my opinion is that it's cruel.
I live in a busy part of Manchester, and my dog once befriended a fox and brought it into the kitchen and let the fox eat his dinner. I'm not sure if my dog was just trying to banging it, but the fox kept coming back for a few weeks. I thought it was a pretty cool creature.
Urban foxes are a different issue. While they resemble pests, many people in towns and cities "adopt" them, leaving them food. Because they have assimilated in to urban life, they are a lot more placid.
They do cause some issues, like outdoor pets such as rabbits and guinea pigs being eaten, occasionally. They are more of an inconvenience that an actual threat.
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