Hugo Lloris

BobbyManc said:
There are other leagues in the world apart from England. Being the 3rd best in England does not at all mean you're automatically a top 5 goalkeeper. Courtois, Cech and De Gea are the three best keepers in England. Lloris is arguably 4th, but at any rate I do not consider him to be better than the likes of Hart, Forster and Adrian by any significant distance. Then abroad we have Neuer, Sirigu, Lopez and Handanovic who I would class as comfortably better than Lloris.
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Forsters distribution is not good enough to be considered top. He's good but he's not come close to proving himself like Lloris has. Adrián is just not the same class.

Neuer is nr. 1. Lopez is definitely not up there. You're nr. 2 is better than him. I rated him highly before you guys bought him. Now I have no idea how good he is because sitting on the bench for a long time is not really a confidence booster.

Handanovic and Sirigu have been fine when I've seen them. Handanovic was poor against Iceland in the WC quals and I've not seen Sirigu play outside his PSG CL matches or with Italy so not much to go by. Sirigu is at a nice age for a goalkeeper but if 20m euros for Lloris is too much then paying more money and higher wages for Sirigu is worse business. Handanovic hasn't played in the PL or CL. His experience is confined mostly to Serie A games, EL and Slovenia. Lloris would be a much safer purchase all things considered.

In any case, Lloris is a top 10 goalkeeper at least but arguable where exactly within those top 10 he should be. I definitely pick Lloris ahead of every keeper you've mentioned bar Neuer and Cech. He's just proven at every level a goalkeeper can face and that's as much as you can ask for. Plus, if this clause is true then Tottenham would have to have paid as much for him the reports are true about 10m upfront, 5m later + 20% of future transfer profits. Pretty close to breaking even.
 
Orc said:
That's such a ridiculous reason for turning away a world class keeper, but it's probably true. :lol:
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Its not when your whole system is based on all players being able to pass it well. We've used the keeper a lot when passing it around this season.
 
Sam said:
Its not when your whole system is based on all players being able to pass it well. We've used the keeper a lot when passing it around this season.
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Yeah, I'm agreeing with you, it's just kind of strange.

One of the greatest keepers in PL history would be turned down because he's not great with his feet.
 
Orc said:
Yeah, I'm agreeing with you, it's just kind of strange.

One of the greatest keepers in PL history would be turned down because he's not great with his feet.
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Yeah, I totally see what you're saying.

I'd go for Cech everyday of the week if it was my team.
 
Orc said:
Yeah, I'm agreeing with you, it's just kind of strange.

One of the greatest keepers in PL history would be turned down because he's not great with his feet.
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Plus im not not sure if Cech is as good as he used to be. Don't get wrong he's still a top keeper but i know he made quite a few errors last season and let in some soft goals. I just can't remember which games but i definitely recall him making errors.
 
So much bullshit about keepers - from pub league to PL they need to control the area and stop shots. Distribution and defence management are secondary.
 
BobbyManc said:
There are other leagues in the world apart from England. Being the 3rd best in England does not at all mean you're automatically a top 5 goalkeeper. Courtois, Cech and De Gea are the three best keepers in England. Lloris is arguably 4th, but at any rate I do not consider him to be better than the likes of Hart, Forster and Adrian by any significant distance. Then abroad we have Neuer, Sirigu, Lopez and Handanovic who I would class as comfortably better than Lloris.
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You are having a laugh. In which world are Lopez and Handanovic comfortably better?

prarek said:
Id say Oblak and Stegen are just as good, if not better, with the potential to be better given their age. Id also rate Navas higher on the back his performances from last season and the world cup, spectacular saves on a regular basis. Come to think of it id love to have Navas over here, such a waste of talent at Madrid's bench.
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ridiculous
 
prarek said:
Plus im not not sure if Cech is as good as he used to be. Don't get wrong he's still a top keeper but i know he made quite a few errors last season and let in some soft goals. I just can't remember which games but i definitely recall him making errors.
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He's definitely not as good as he was, you're right. The criticism he's received from our fans over the past couple of years is that he can let in soft goals at times and was unconvincing in the air when trying to claim the ball in crowded areas. Understandable considering his head injury.

Still, in terms of shot stopping and overall command of a defense he's world class. His experience and leadership would be fantastic for a young and poor back four.
 
Orc said:
He's definitely not as good as he was, you're right. The criticism he's received from our fans over the past couple of years is that he can let in soft goals at times and was unconvincing in the air when trying to claim the ball in crowded areas. Understandable considering his head injury.

Still, in terms of shot stopping and overall command of a defense he's world class. His experience and leadership would be fantastic for a young and poor back four.
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Oh he's definitely good enough for us for sure. Only thing is Mourinho wants a big sum for him. If we had to pay 20m for him id rather prefer Lloris but only due to his age.
 
Too many people have been praising Lloris lately so obviously it's time for others to come in with the overrated tag. If DDG leaves he should be our number 1 target. Too risky to just put Valdes in the team and hope for the best. The position is too important. Let them fight it out if need be.
 
It's not just Cech's kicking ability, with our high line we need a keeper quick off his line, and to be honest, Lloris is one of the quickest off of his line i've ever seen in addition to his other qualities, I dont know exactly why he's called overated by some, everytime I've tuned in to watch a Spuds match the past couple of years he's been bailing them out of situations they should have been punished, he's the closest replica to DDG around in my opinion.
 
izec said:
You are having a laugh. In which world are Lopez and Handanovic comfortably better?



ridiculous
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In the world where they both feck up with a lot less regularity than Lloris does. Lloris makes so many mistakes he simply cannot be considered a top keeper. Handanovic is comfortably better than him, Lopez less so but I'd still prefer him to Lloris.
 
BobbyManc said:
In the world where they both feck up with a lot less regularity than Lloris does. Lloris makes so many mistakes he simply cannot be considered a top keeper. Handanovic is comfortably better than him, Lopez less so but I'd still prefer him to Lloris.
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This season they both made horrible mistakes. Lopez and Handanovic havent improved in the last years, they regressed. They wont move to top clubs (if we assume Milan and Inter arent top clubs anymore), not as first choice keepers at least. Lloris any day of the week.
 
izec said:
This season they both made horrible mistakes. Lopez and Handanovic havent improved in the last years, they regressed. They wont move to top clubs (if we assume Milan and Inter arent top clubs anymore), not as first choice keepers at least. Lloris any day of the week.
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Handanovic has bailed Inter out so many times this season it's untrue. I'm basing my opinion on Lopez from his Madrid days and first season at Milan, haven't seen too much of him this season but he's always played well when I have so I have no reason to believe he's regressed. Handanovic has made a couple of errors, but so have Neuer and De Gea and Courtois. He certainly hasn't fecked up as many times as Lloris has this year.
 
Id love to have either of Lloris or Cech at our club. Lloris is a top keeper but lets be honest he does make a bit too many 'occasional' mistakes for a keeper constantly compared with the bests around by many and is thought to be world class. Last season he was third in the league in terms of mistakes on goals conceded. He made more mistakes than Cech, and a lot of Chelsea fans weren't entirely happy with Cech's performance because he let in some sloppy goals himself. This season Lloris has been very good but again mistakes against Chelsea, Liverpool, City that i can remember that directly led to goals. Those are big games.
 
::sonny:: said:
I watched a bit Valdes with the reserve team, at the moment he is not ready for a premier league game.
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If you're right he should be sold on then, you just can't leave him on the bench all next season as well.

But I read an article about 2 months ago where it said something along the lines that he was training fantastic, and loving life in Manchester,. A keeper of his class hasn't been brought in just to fester, he has been brought in on the eventuality that he will be 1st choice if DDG goes, imo.
 
peterstorey said:
So much bullshit about keepers - from pub league to PL they need to control the area and stop shots. Distribution and defence management are secondary.
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This is modern football grandad, so many teams, including ours rely heavily on a keeper that can play football.
 
BobbyManc said:
Handanovic has bailed Inter out so many times this season it's untrue. I'm basing my opinion on Lopez from his Madrid days and first season at Milan, haven't seen too much of him this season but he's always played well when I have so I have no reason to believe he's regressed. Handanovic has made a couple of errors, but so have Neuer and De Gea and Courtois. He certainly hasn't fecked up as many times as Lloris has this year.
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Handanovic looks spectacular, his reflexes and his art of goalkeeping is spectacular. But he lacks control, concentration and playing with the feet. While i understand your view on Handanovic, Lopez isnt better than Lloris, that is just nonsense. Lloris saved Spurs many times too. Error prone are both, but i could swear every time i watched Inter, Handanovic made mistakes.
 
If the clause is true then it would make any potential loss of De Gea much easier to handle.

Lloris is a top keeper with tons of experience and could come in and play to a high level from day one. He would also fit our style being extremely quick to come out and sweep up danger behind a high line.

He'd be my number one choice to replace De Gea regardless but not having to deal with Levy would make this a no brainer.
 
iBoss said:
We let Real have De Gea, they do us a favour by activating the clause and then loan Lloris to us. They then sell us Lloris for £1 in 2016.

feck Levy right?
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But then Madrid decides feck it and keeps Lloris as a backup on the bench in case De Gea flops.
 
Good keeper at the right age with international experience.
 
GlastonSpur said:
It's not true. The story is just click-bait hogwash.

Spurs do not include such clauses in any player contracts.
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Out of curiosity whats your opinion on Llloris? I live down south amongst Spurs/Arsenal fans and my Spurs friends think he's been top notch.
 
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BennyBlanco said:
Out of curiosity whats your opinion on Llloris? I live amongst Spurs/Arsenal down south fans and my Spurs friends think he's been top notch.
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Top notch is the right phrase I'd use also ... as good as any GK in the Prem.
 
Sarni said:
You're like a prison to decent footballers then.
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Yes, we put a gun to players' heads - and threaten their families to boot - and force them to sign contracts against their will.
 
http://www.espnfc.com/story/2424131/united-lining-up-lloris-if-de-gea-signs-for-real-sources

Hugo Lloris is on "stand-by" with Manchester United, if David De Gea does indeed go to Real Madrid this summer, sources have told ESPN FC.

The Tottenham Hotspur No. 1 is now 28 and at the point where he wants regular Champions League football, and there has been an initial contact with United.

Lloris is open to the move, having told Spurs his situation, and awaiting developments in the De Gea situation.
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Lloris would stay as long as we want him to, perfect. Cant see him fecking off to Spain or any other country. Neither Paris
 
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