this.
I thought he was good, how many refs would have panicked and lost control of the match.
Ok it might have been a foul at the other end, but even that was touch and go. Plus Holland had more than one chance to clear the ball.
Howard Webb's Performance
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this.
I thought he was good, how many refs would have panicked and lost control of the match.
Ok it might have been a foul at the other end, but even that was touch and go. Plus Holland had more than one chance to clear the ball.
I couldn't imagine having to officiate a match between two diving, cheating sides. Neither side is saintly.
You'd have to be a unforgiving asshole if you didnt think he did a commendable job in a very inhospitable environment.
I think he tried to keep players on the pitch despite plenty of provocation. Someone was gonna get sent off eventually and Webb didnt allow the game to become a farce. I thought him and the linesmen did a very good job.
I think he tried to keep players on the pitch despite plenty of provocation. Someone was gonna get sent off eventually and Webb didnt allow the game to become a farce. I thought him and the linesmen did a very good job.
Exactly, he was fecked from the off.
I thought he did alright considering. It wasn't the easiest of games.
In my dream Webb almost had his head taken off.
Same here. He wasn t perfect of course, but considering the circumstances job well done
I don't think anyone else would have been able to do a better job tonight. That was a cnut of a game to try and ref.
He did well, it was a bloody awful game from a refs point of view. Very scrappy, loads of reckless tackles and fouls, and a red card was basically inevitable.
He won't be happy with how that went for sure, but the players didn't make it easy for him either
He was atrocious. He was afraid to destroy the game by giving out the Reds too early but actually that was what made the game so ugly. If he had booked the players properly, it would have been a much better game and the players would have been warned and would have avoided the dirty game or dives.
dont see how the dutch can complain considering he didnt sent any of their players off in the first half
De Jong should definitely have been sent off and Van Bommel fouled enough and was verbal enough to be sent off.
So no sympathy for the Dutch.
The BBC are saying "Howard Webb had a difficult game".
Well no he didnt...he was crap. Plain and simple.
He got out of jail because Spain actually won. If they hadnt even the BBC would be reporting how bad he was.
The fact is that if a referee from Bolivia or Luxembourg had put in a performance as awful as that, the Media would be screaming that the big jobs should go to referees from France, Germany, Italy, Brazil, England cos only they "understand" the game at this level.
Webb bottled it.
But a word of praise for the Dutch for actually staying on the pitch and forming a guard of honour for the new Champions.
Classless and crude for 120 minutes but showed a bit of class in the end.
So no sympathy for the Dutch.
The BBC are saying "Howard Webb had a difficult game".
Well no he didnt...he was crap. Plain and simple.
He got out of jail because Spain actually won. If they hadnt even the BBC would be reporting how bad he was.
The fact is that if a referee from Bolivia or Luxembourg had put in a performance as awful as that, the Media would be screaming that the big jobs should go to referees from France, Germany, Italy, Brazil, England cos only they "understand" the game at this level.
Webb bottled it.
But a word of praise for the Dutch for actually staying on the pitch and forming a guard of honour for the new Champions.
Classless and crude for 120 minutes but showed a bit of class in the end.
Let's see:
-Failed to send off De Jong and Puyol.
=He failed to card the Spanish players for surrounding him and for waving cards every time someone looked at them.
-He gave Heitinga a yellow for something he didn't see because the Spanish protested for it.
-He let Iniesta retaliate against Van Bommel(who did exaggerate) with no punishment. -Sent off Heitinga for Iniesta falling down easily.
-Gave Van der Wiel a yellow when Iniesta dived.
-Failed to call holding in the box for Iniesta's goal.
-Managed to miss a clear corner for the Dutch immediately before the goal.
-Oh, and he failed to give yellows to Fabregas, Iniesta, and Villa all on the same play for simulation.
Typical English performance at the World Cup?
-Failed to send off De Jong and Puyol.
=He failed to card the Spanish players for surrounding him and for waving cards every time someone looked at them.
-He gave Heitinga a yellow for something he didn't see because the Spanish protested for it.
-He let Iniesta retaliate against Van Bommel(who did exaggerate) with no punishment. -Sent off Heitinga for Iniesta falling down easily.
-Gave Van der Wiel a yellow when Iniesta dived.
-Failed to call holding in the box for Iniesta's goal.
-Managed to miss a clear corner for the Dutch immediately before the goal.
-Oh, and he failed to give yellows to Fabregas, Iniesta, and Villa all on the same play for simulation.
Typical English performance at the World Cup?
Its a fecking world cup final, if he sent off about 4.5 players in the first half the game would be ruined. Webb was trying to avoid sending people off if he could avoid it, so that hopefully it would be a good game of football and a good spectacle. Unfortunately, both sides seemed determined to foul constantly and make stupid tackles, which rather undermined Webb.
Pretty much.......
Best English refereeing performance at World Cup since.........er ...Graham Poll.
I think he was great and did what he was paid to do ... which was make the final be decided by players and not the referee!
to be fair to him i thought he had a blinder. a world cup final can't exactly be easy to ref as it with the eyes of the world on you and he had an extremely tough game to ref. the fact no one can really point to a massive game defining moment caused directly by his mistake is testament to that for me. he tried to stamp out the fouling and cheating and every booking he gave was a booking to be fair to him. a very difficult game to officiate and i don't think any one could have handled it much better.
Should have booked Iniesta twice, once for rolling and then getting up and shoving Bommel and second for his ridiculous dive to get Wiel booked.
Also quite how he din't spot Elia getting blocked off or the deflection on the Sneijder free kick just before the Iniesta goal baffles me.
Also quite how he din't spot Elia getting blocked off or the deflection on the Sneijder free kick just before the Iniesta goal baffles me.
Thinking of that makes me laugh tbh
What the hell was he thinking when he gave a goal kickHe was Blind allright.
Shit ref but top performance. He had to deal with some of the worst behaved players in the world all behaving like twats. The cards he did give stopped nothing and giving out reds wouldn't have done any more to curb the behaviour. He just stopped it becoming the Portugal - Holland circus (hilarious though it was) at the last tournament.
I think he did pretty well all things considered. De Jong's challenge was bad, but I don't think it was really his intention - looked a bit like he raised his foot then collided with alonso rather than actually intending to boot him in the chest. Accidents happen, and that early on in the game a referee will look for reasons not to send a guy off.
The tackling was rough, the dives were plentiful, it was a tough match to referee and I think another ref could have incensed matters by sending a player off at the wrong time. The bad call of goal kick rather than corner turned out to be the biggest feck up of the game on his part - how in hell did he think that was a goal kick? that must mean at least 2 officials completely missed the fact that the ball deflected off the wall, in an area where there was no dutch player at all. Other than that I don't think he was so bad though.
The tackling was rough, the dives were plentiful, it was a tough match to referee and I think another ref could have incensed matters by sending a player off at the wrong time. The bad call of goal kick rather than corner turned out to be the biggest feck up of the game on his part - how in hell did he think that was a goal kick? that must mean at least 2 officials completely missed the fact that the ball deflected off the wall, in an area where there was no dutch player at all. Other than that I don't think he was so bad though.
How much worse could the game have been? It was completely awful. Maybe a sending off would have livened it up. Well, not it if was Spain who benefited because they'd just keep passing in their back 4/midfield until they went into dive mode.
Difficult match for any ref. not just Webb. Not because it's the world cup final, but because of the aggressiveness of the dutch, and the diving of the Spanish, but all in all he did good
Not sending De Jong was a sin .1st half of world cup final or not, it's a red.
Roben should have got 2nd yellow card for shooting the ball an hour after the whistle
These are the main two that FIFA will note despite several other weird calls like that goal kick for the Spanish immediately before the goal despite it being a clear corner.
Not sending De Jong was a sin .1st half of world cup final or not, it's a red.
Roben should have got 2nd yellow card for shooting the ball an hour after the whistle
These are the main two that FIFA will note despite several other weird calls like that goal kick for the Spanish immediately before the goal despite it being a clear corner.
With all due respect, I think you're just bitter.
i see what you did there.
personally i think he had a very good game. i' m sure he'd have been dreaming of a final where he could he anonymous and let the football take the headlines but unfortunately it was a final that only really showcased the darker sides of the game. he probably could have handed out 6 or so red cards. that's hardly what anyone wants to see in a world cup final.
If Webb hadn't fecked up the first time by refusing to send off Puyol, Robben would have been on 1 yellow after he shot. As it is, Robben was reasonably incensed by Webb's idiocy and got the yellow, thus leniency.
Did he meet the 96% level?
I don't even mind him not sending players off.
Him not noticing that deflection from the Sneijder free kick and not noticing Elia get blocked just before the goal was criminal. And falling for Iniestas rolls time and again was frustrating as well.
I'm yet trying to figure out how he did not spot the deflection for the corner before the goal
I love how people are going to blame him for the shit defending from the dutch. They are down to 10 men, and throw numbers forward. How else is it going to end???
That's a load of bollocks, so the Dutch can blame their lack of marking on Iniesta on Webb?
Agreed. For me he gets 8 out of 10. If he had sent off De Jong and Iniesta earlier on, I'd have given him a 10.
It's not the fault of the Dutch that Webb just could not give any decisions against the Spanish.
Woe be unto those who dare criticize the Spanish! It's farcical. Webb was awful. The game was difficult, but he made quite a few egregious decisions.
not spotting the deflected free kick was a bit poor yes, but with everything else he had going on i find it hard to single out a fairly small error. the elia block was 50/50 for me and any spanish or dutch antics had been happening all tournament, to expect him to put a stop to that in the final isn't really fair.
All things considered he did pretty well. I cant imagine how some of the refs I've seen in this world cup would have handled that game.
How anyone can say he did a commendable job is beyond me. He was poor by his own standards set earlier in the competition. De Jong should've been sent off and a few of Holland's yellows shouldn't have been, which basically blunted their intensity. That said, the players lost the match. Robben really embarrased himself with his two one on one chances with Casillas, and his cry baby antics later.