Howard Webb's Performance

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Oh so controversial!

Not the best reception he got there from the Dutch fans for the card happy ref

How do you rate his performance and his decision not to call that foul at the end?

What was strange for me, was he was so prone to giving fouls for blatant dives, then at the end he said 'nada' where's the consistency?

Ramos clearly stepped across the poor lad
 
He made one mistake. He was very good, held his calm throughout

If I was Webb, I would have sent all those player off for just being despicable cnuts
 
I think he did the best anyone could have done. The majority, if not all, of the yellows were correct and he tried to keep the spectacle. The right team won so credit for that.
 
Overall I thought he did well, some mistakes in there but he tried to give the game a chance where he could. Should have dealt with the card waving and play acting better though. Was a tricky game for him, Holland did lots of fouls and Spain did lots of diving/rolling.
 
Should have sent De Jong off for sure. Van Bommel too for various combinations of fouls he made (and perhaps a straight red for the Iniesta tackle).
 
What's he meant to do, when both teams are engaging in such levels of gamesmanship, cheating and frankly, thuggery?

I thought he handled it about as well as he could. He was only conned once, and how the Dutch can complain given the leniency he showed their players is incredible

He could and maybe should have sent a few of the Dutch off earlier, but it would have spoiled the game too. That said, not as if the game was any good anyway
 
He'll get a horrible treatment now, but it was an awful, awful game to have to officiate. Both teams, more-so the Dutch were just despicable at times.

When you have to make that many decisions you're always going to make mistakes, and I think overall he did well.
 
The Dutch fecking beat the shit out of Spain, they were lucky to make it to extra time with 11 men really.

Still, that missed block on Elia that lead to the goal was awful, not giving Iniesta a yellow for reacting to Van Bommel(however much I loved it) was wrong, not giving a red to the boot to the chest(despite the fact I like that he likes to keep 11v11 for as long as possible) was wrong.

He can control the players well, but he simply makes too many mistakes, I think the board looks at him and see another bald guy who can control the players so he must be good like Collina, but he's not, saved quite often by his superb linesmen, I'll give them credit.
 
He was alright except for sending a player off incorrectly and failing to send off a player for denying a goal scoring opportunity.

So yeah, apart from pretty much deciding the outcome of the game, he was fine.

Not that any ref would have had a chance with that amunt of cheating going on
 
Was trying hard not to send anyone off. The Dutch did not help him by deciding to kick Spain off the field. He missed the corner that the Dutch should have had near the end and he probably should have given a free kick when Puyol grabbed Robben but other than that he was great. The Dutch could have had more people sent off the way they behaved.
 
He had a good game, the dutch didn't make it easy for him & i guess given it was a final he didn't want to red card someone unless humanly possible.

I'm pretty sure he'll be used as a scapegoat in Holland though, which is a shame as they've only got themselves to blame.
 
Did well considering there was 20 cnuts on the pitch, it was only the goal keepers that truly behaved. Also Holland were a tad filthy.

So in fairness to Webb, I couldn't what more he could have done.
 
RonaldoVII said:
I think he did the best anyone could have done. The majority, if not all, of the yellows were correct and he tried to keep the spectacle. The right team won so credit for that.
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Yup - agree with this. Not a Webb fan generally but this was a nightmare scenario. Keeping the game flowing and trying to keep all the players on the pitch with the behaviour of the Dutch in particular and some Spanish chaps was pretty much impossible to pull off without making any errors. So yeah, he made a couple but overall he did as well as could be expected.
 
Seconds prior to the Spain goal, Webb is standing looking directly at the Spanish lined up to block the Dutch foul-kick... miraculously it BOUNCES off a 'moving - if not to direct the ball' arm of a Spanish player....

The result - Casillas gets the ball for a goal kick.

Typical Webb feck-up

I'd say that's controversial!
 
B Cantona said:
What's he meant to do, when both teams are engaging in such levels of gamesmanship, cheating and frankly, thuggery?

I thought he handled it about as well as he could. He was only conned once, and how the Dutch can complain given the leniency he showed their players is incredible

He could and maybe should have sent a few of the Dutch off earlier, but it would have spoiled the game too. That said, not as if the game was any good anyway
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Couldnt argue with any of that
 
He wasn't that bad.

The problem was he had so many decisions to make, he was bound to get one of them wrong. All but one or two of the many calls he had to make were correct.
 
B Cantona said:
What's he meant to do, when both teams are engaging in such levels of gamesmanship, cheating and frankly, thuggery?

I thought he handled it about as well as he could. He was only conned once, and how the Dutch can complain given the leniency he showed their players is incredible

He could and maybe should have sent a few of the Dutch off earlier, but it would have spoiled the game too. That said, not as if the game was any good anyway
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He ain't there to show pity.There is a certain extent and De Jong's foul really deserved a proper red card.There is no way one could justify why he wasn't sent off.
 
Agreed with Brad I feel sorry for Webb one side you have a bunch of thugs other bunch of diving fairies. With it being the final aswell he can't win really.
 
To be fair, it would have been a very difficult game for any referee. All the cards he dished out were fair. It was just that sort of a game.

I do think Puyol was lucky not to be sent off for that tug on Robben, but had Robben gone down it might have been a different story (which is one of the most unfair aspects of football).
 
The Dutch in my nieghbourhood are livid. They reckon they were screwed over by Webb, actually they called him "....that fecking English referee.".

It doesn't help that we're in spain and we'll have to listen to the fireworks for the next four years. I hate seeing spanish people happy at the best of times, but being made happy by an englishman is even worse for me.
 
kouroux said:
He ain't there to show pity.There is a certain extent and De Jong's foul really deserved a proper red card.There is no way one could justify why he wasn't sent off.
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Van Bommel's was the worse challenge for me, an absolute shocker from behind

He's not there to show pity no, but you can understand him not wanting to see the game ruined to early
 
Every time a Spain player was touched, foul. Elia gets raped and nothing called, Spain go on the break and score. Pathetic. Not to mention a clear corner for the Dutch that was for some reason called a goal kick.
 
goldenballs said:
Yes he should have sent whoever it was that done that karate kick in the chest, but it would have totally ruined the game very early on.
So basically he was damned if he did, and damned if he didn't!!
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I don't think anyone would have complained having seen the foul
 
The handball and then no corner before Spain scored was befuddling.

Dutch played rough, Spain played like a bunch of girls falling over and cheating any chance they got.

Webb did a good job overall. That FIFA doesn't do more to curb the card waving is disgusting; should make that a yellow card offense if people wave imaginary cards.
 
B Cantona said:
Van Bommel's was the worse challenge for me, an absolute shocker from behind

He's not there to show pity no, but you can understand him not wanting to see the game ruined to early
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Oh, I don't know about that Brad, the chest kick was terrible could quite easily have bust his rib cage. It was an act of hooliganism, if that had happened on the high street he would have been arrested
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B Cantona said:
Van Bommel's was the worse challenge for me, an absolute shocker from behind

He's not there to show pity no, but you can understand him not wanting to see the game ruined to early
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I can understand it if I'm a neutral football fan and if I wanna have a supposedly entertaining match but if I'm a referee no I cannot understand his ridiculous decision to not send off De Jong or Bommel.

Pscholes18 said:
Every time a Spain player was touched, foul. Elia gets raped and nothing called, Spain go on the break and score. Pathetic. Not to mention a clear corner for the Dutch that was for some reason called a goal kick.
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How on earth did he miss that ? What were his linesman doing ? It makes you wonder how both of them could miss it
 
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