royboy16
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Which is exactly my point,the name Ballack will be spoken of more than Griezmann.The point is about how players will be remembered it's not a ranking of players level.
Which is exactly my point,the name Ballack will be spoken of more than Griezmann.The point is about how players will be remembered it's not a ranking of players level.
Most players are only really remembered/discussed by their own club's fans. Griezmann is someone who will be spoken about by Atletico fans as part of one of their best teams, but nothing more. He will never be mentioned in the best 11s by other clubs fans, which is the same for most players. Only Barcelona fans (could be remembered as a failure - yet to see), Atletico fans (part of one of best teams, but not part of La Liga winning squad, so less prominence), and the French (world cup winner) will remember him. He will be forgotten by other fans like 99% of players are, no matter if they were good.
La decision
I just hope Barca will stop playing him out of position. It’s like putting Müller on the wing. It kinda works but is only mediocre to good.He is gonna be the type of player where fans 20 years from now will go: "Aaaah yeah, Griezmann, he was massive at Atletico, quality player! Can't believe I forgot about him. Definitely in the top 25 attacking players of the 2010s! Sucked at Barca, though."
I just hope Barca will stop playing him out of position. It’s like putting Müller on the wing. It kinda works but is only mediocre to good.
Mendieta seems to be a fair comparison (both even have a failed Barcelona move). Although I think that a younger generation would actually remember him quite well, his persona resonates well with them.
Didn't follow silly money. He was getting the same at atleticoOnce was a great tool for Simeones football, then leave that behind and followed silly money to Barca, and forget asking the officials there how he would fit into that team. Then you remember his stupid telefon cheering and thats it.
Didn't follow silly money. He was getting the same at atletico
Even stranger when you consider that Griezmann is a top 10 player of last decade.Strange bunch we have here who are above remembering more than 10 footballers per generation.
No, he just needs to find one.Wasn’t he a barber or something?
It's interesting how we fans perceive a player relative to their teammates and their respective success. 2 years after the event, we remember Griezmann as one of the stars of the 2018 WC victory. But if Pogba has a stellar 4-5 years now, helping Utd win multiple leagues and CL and if Mbappe continues his current trajectory, I think 15-20 years down the line Griezmann will be a footnote to the 2018 French success with revisionist history lauding Pogba and Mbappe as its major protagonists. Of course, hardcore fans will remember his contributions, but the casual fan will more likely associate that victory with Pogba and Mbappe.
Ballack is actually a very good example of this phenomena. In the 2000s, he was considered one of the best CMs in the world and the heartbeat of the German National team. I remember what a coup it was considered for Chelsea to have signed him and how the pundits at the time were salivating at the prospect of a genuine world class player in his prime coming to ply his trade in the PL. But his lack of CL and international success (I mean winning the tournament), especially coupled with Schweinsteiger's role in Bayern's 2013 treble and the WC win for Germany the following year, somehow raised his stature higher to that of Ballack, at least for the casual fan.
This. He will be remembered in France and Spain, basically grew up as a footballer at Real Sociedad. He won’t be remembered much outside of that because very few players get remembered across the globe beyond their career-based fan base.Fantastic player for Atletico for 5 seasons, France's best player, golden boot winner and the tournament's best player at Euro 2016, major contributor to France's 2018 World Cup win, part of France's golden generation.
One bad season living in Messi's shadow at a terribly managed Barcelona doesn't erase his past accomplishments. What he needs is a move to a different club where he can be the key player so he can find his confidence and form again.
As for the staying at Atletico video announcement, that was pretty cringe but he's not going to be remembered for that. As for his WC final celebration, who cares? it's a celebration, I'm sure people will care more about him scoring in a WC final.