How unrealistic is this transfer wishlist?

Pathetic all this.

Same players mentioned every single time.

Hamsik and co.

Standard FM bollocks.
 
Dreaming again Chief?!
Am I? We know we will most likely replace Hargreaves and we definitely need an immediate replacement for Scholes in the first 11 this summer. Whilst Giggs next season should be too old for wing duty and Scholes might stay on for 1 more year.

All that should leave our midfield quite stacked. For even if Scholes retired, Gibson would most likely stick around.
 
Pathetic all this.

Same players mentioned every single time.

Hamsik and co.

Standard FM bollocks.

Never played the game in my life. Mines based on a judgement of watching and observing the players.
 
Pathetic all this.

Same players mentioned every single time.

Hamsik and co.

Standard FM bollocks.

Brave comment, so you personally know each and every poster.....the football veiwing habits and gaming habits? Impressive.
 
Brave comment, so you personally know each and every poster.....the football veiwing habits and gaming habits? Impressive.

It does annoy me this assumption, I've been watching every Panathianakos game I can at the moment (normally whilst the rest of the caf are watching Barca strangely enough) to get an actual impression on Sotiris Ninis, yet apparently any opinion I will end up having on the player will be from a computer game I've never played.
 
It does annoy me this assumption, I've been watching every Panathianakos game I can at the moment (normally whilst the rest of the caf are watching Barca strangely enough) to get an actual impression on Sotiris Ninis, yet apparently any opinion I will end up having on the player will be from a computer game I've never played.

Ive been a fan of Serie A since the mid nineties when watching Gazzeta on saturday mornings on C4 but again apparently thats not aloud and I MUST be talking about a player because of FM, which I admit I do play :)
 
Ive been a fan of Serie A since the mid nineties when watching Gazzeta on saturday mornings on C4 but again apparently thats not aloud and I MUST be talking about a player because of FM, which I admit I do play :)

Any other good players on this FM I should be made aware of? Also it's not just me is it or does Hamsik seem to be having an off time since about March last year? The same intensity doesn't seem to be in his performances I feel.
 
Ive been a fan of Serie A since the mid nineties when watching Gazzeta on saturday mornings on C4 but again apparently thats not aloud and I MUST be talking about a player because of FM, which I admit I do play :)

Fairplay to that, I genuinely cannot watch Serie A, its so slow and boring. Used to be good when Gazetta was on though.

Id honestly rather watch a lower league English game now.
 
Fairplay to that, I genuinely cannot watch Serie A, its so slow and boring. Used to be good when Gazetta was on though.

Id honestly rather watch a lower league English game now.

Think thats bad, you should watch the greek league.
 
Any other good players on this FM I should be made aware of? Also it's not just me is it or does Hamsik seem to be having an off time since about March last year? The same intensity doesn't seem to be in his performances I feel.

He seems to be lacking ing intensity/energy a little, but I would say its just a combination of tiredness and uncertainty over his future.
 
He seems to be lacking ing intensity/energy a little, but I would say its just a combination of tiredness and uncertainty over his future.

See thats it, he's gone from incredibly dynamic to almost just another Italian style player. Then again he is having his first year with a sprog. It's weird trying to explain to people what he's been like. When they see his current performances.
 
See thats it, he's gone from incredibly dynamic to almost just another Italian style player. Then again he is having his first year with a sprog. It's weird trying to explain to people what he's been like. When they see his current performances.

That would certainly go some way to explaining it......I remember that and fun it aint!!!
 
---------------Neuer----------------
Rafael-----Ferdinand---Vidic-----Evra
Nani------Hamsik------Carrick----Bale
-----------Rooney----Berbatov-------

How unstoppable would we be?

With Hamsik and Carrick in the middle I would imagine pretty stoppable.

Am I the only person who thinks Hamsik is over-rated?

I like the look of Defour and Javi Martinez.
 
what makes me think ashley young is his contract situation - he'll have a year left come the summer

as well as that people mention players like sanchez who is excellent but plays on the right

Youngs done better than you think as well - his goals/assists are up there with Nani's this season

I'd love us to spend big myself but can you really see Spurs selling Bale

if we do spend big i think it'll be on a central midfielder as its where we lack quality

think it'll be value all the way with young or another more obscure signing

No no, Young is a good footballer. But so is Park, Valencia and Nani! I would not swap Valencia with Young due to skill... We have a "Young" in Nani, we have a "Sanchez" in Valencia, we have a versatile options in Park and Cleverley and other talented options in Obertan, Bebe, and especially Welbeck. If we are to sign a winger - we need someone different and preferably great - because if the one who joins ain't better than all the ones I mentioned he should not get to play much. Priority one - someone left-footed, because all the ones we have are right-footed.

Have Sir Alex Ferguson ever exploited a contract, to sign a player more cheaply? To my knowledge almost never. I am sure that Young will depart from Aston Villa this summer. I think that is very likely. However I believe he will rather depart for Arsenal, Tottenham, Manchester City or Chelsea than us. I actually think he would be a perfect fit in Chelsea, and I can see that happen, and If Tottnham can make £30m surpluss in dropping Bale and signing Young - they can spend those money in a really talented forward, because that is something that club lacks. The one thing Ferguson always do prefer when avalible is signing domestically. I think Bale might arrive should Tottenham fail to achieve a top 4 spot, meaning £40-50m would be shipped off to London. Of course Tottenham will only sell if Bale says he wants to go, and I think he will should Tottenham fail to keep their top 4 status.

The year after the 2006 world cup, The summer of 2007 Ferguson spent about £50m for Anderson, Nani and Hargo. I can see him spending a lot the year after the world cup once more - last time he raided Portugal - this time I have a feeling he might be raiding Bundesliga - because I have never seen as many Germans/players in Germany linked to us as now, I have seen among others; Rene Adler, Manuel Neuer, Neven Subotić, Mario Götze, Nuri Şahin, İlkay Gündoğan, Marko Marin, Toni Kroos, Lewis Holtby and Shinji Kagawa linked to us. Last summer we were linked to Müller, Özil and Khedira. It might mean nothing. But the fact that the media time and time again links Bundesliga players to us in 2010 also might mean that Manchester United's scouts are a regular sight on Bundesliga matches.
 
No no, Young is a good footballer. But so is Park, Valencia and Nani! I would not swap Valencia with Young due to skill... We have a "Young" in Nani, we have a "Sanchez" in Valencia, we have a versatile options in Park and Cleverley and other talented options in Obertan, Bebe, and especially Welbeck. If we are to sign a winger - we need someone different and preferably great - because if the one who joins ain't better than all the ones I mentioned he should not get to play much. Priority one - someone left-footed, because all the ones we have are right-footed.

Have Sir Alex Ferguson ever exploited a contract, to sign a player more cheaply? To my knowledge almost never. I am sure that Young will depart from Aston Villa this summer. I think that is very likely. However I believe he will rather depart for Arsenal, Tottenham, Manchester City or Chelsea than us. I actually think he would be a perfect fit in Chelsea, and I can see that happen, and If Tottnham can make £30m surpluss in dropping Bale and signing Young - they can spend those money in a really talented forward, because that is something that club lacks. The one thing Ferguson always do prefer when avalible is signing domestically. I think Bale might arrive should Tottenham fail to achieve a top 4 spot, meaning £40-50m would be shipped off to London. Of course Tottenham will only sell if Bale says he wants to go, and I think he will should Tottenham fail to keep their top 4 status.

The year after the 2006 world cup, The summer of 2007 Ferguson spent about £50m for Anderson, Nani and Hargo. I can see him spending a lot the year after the world cup once more - last time he raided Portugal - this time I have a feeling he might be raiding Bundesliga - because I have never seen as many Germans/players in Germany linked to us as now, I have seen among others; Rene Adler, Manuel Neuer, Neven Subotić, Mario Götze, Nuri Şahin, İlkay Gündoğan, Marko Marin, Toni Kroos, Lewis Holtby and Shinji Kagawa linked to us. Last summer we were linked to Müller, Özil and Khedira. It might mean nothing. But the fact that the media time and time again links Bundesliga players to us in 2010 also might mean that Manchester United's scouts are a regular sight on Bundesliga matches.

Name the source of the money this time, who are we going to sell to buy? I don't see many players who we could ship out. Obertan would probably cost no more than £4m, we could get circa £8m for Macheda, who else are we going to sell? Kuszczak could probably fetch £5m but a new goalkeeper will likely cost more than that. Cannot see us receiving more than £20m for the departing players and that's only if we decide to sell three or four. We would have to throw in £40m to seriously compete for three or four top class players and that is not going to happen.

People who think that we will bring three or four recognized players are dreaming. If we bring one £25m player, I will be surprised, if we sign two or more I will be genuinely shocked.
 
With Hamsik and Carrick in the middle I would imagine pretty stoppable.

Am I the only person who thinks Hamsik is over-rated?

I like the look of Defour and Javi Martinez.

Yes I think you are the only one.

And Defour and Javi Martinez are more defensive minded than Hamsik is. And right now we need an attacking midfielder who can score goals and that player is Hamsik.
 
Yes I think you are the only one.

And Defour and Javi Martinez are more defensive minded than Hamsik is. And right now we need an attacking midfielder who can score goals and that player is Hamsik.

You obviously didn't read the post directly below mine ;)

I've just never seen it with Hamsik at all. I stand to be corrected though as I havent' seen an awful lot of him.
 
Yes I think you are the only one.

And Defour and Javi Martinez are more defensive minded than Hamsik is. And right now we need an attacking midfielder who can score goals and that player is Hamsik.
TBF we need to replace Hargreaves to. So surely the 2 he mentioned must be candidates alongside Rodwell and Henderson to do just that.
 
I think our midfield could be better but Ferguson seems to have faith in it seeing as he didn't even try to bolster it last Summer so I cannot see why he would do it now when nothing has really changed. Besides, there is a need for a goalkeeper who is going to cost some money and I don't think we have much of it to be honest, I think £25m net spending is the most we could afford at the minute and even that is pushing it to the limits, you won't get a top quality proven midfielder and a goalkeeper for that. Our midfield needed a new player last Sunmer and the Summer before as well to be honest, nothing was done, and I think we won't make another move until Scholes and Giggs retire.

I think coming into this season Fergie was still hopeful that Hargo would make it back and that Gibson and Anderson would push on, only one of these three things has happened. Come the summer Gibson will have one year left on his deal so it will be a case of either him signing a new one or being sold, the latter would not surprise me at all, I also don't think we will renew Hargo's contract when it runs out in the summer as with the 25 man squad cap you cannot carry a player who is unlikely to ever play again.

On the financial part I am not knowledgeable enough on the business side of things to really argue that point, some here claim the money is there and seem to understand the way these things work, other claim it's all a smokescreen. However I can only really hope that SAF and Gill are telling the truth.
 
I think coming into this season Fergie was still hopeful that Hargo would make it back and that Gibson and Anderson would push on, only one of these three things has happened. Come the summer Gibson will have one year left on his deal so it will be a case of either him signing a new one or being sold, the latter would not surprise me at all, I also don't think we will renew Hargo's contract when it runs out in the summer as with the 25 man squad cap you cannot carry a player who is unlikely to ever play again.

On the financial part I am not knowledgeable enough on the business side of things to really argue that point, some here claim the money is there and seem to understand the way these things work, other claim it's all a smokescreen. However I can only really hope that SAF and Gill are telling the truth.

I thik there might be some money in case of emergency but truth is, since Glazer's arrival we've spent virtually nothing in the market from our own budget - it's all been funded by sales of departing players. We spent £30m net the Summer we went for Berbatov but it was paid back by Ronaldo's sale a year later, we spent close to nothing last year and made roughly around £60m when we sold Ronaldo and purchased Obertan, Owen and Valencia (£30m when you consider Berbatov as well). I don't know if that is because there is no money or if Sir Alex simply doesn't feel the need to spend any. I certainly don't think there is remote possibility of us spending £70m net on transfers which is what a top class goalkeeper, two midfielders and a winger would cost.
 
You obviously didn't read the post directly below mine ;)

I've just never seen it with Hamsik at all. I stand to be corrected though as I havent' seen an awful lot of him.

I have been watching him for some time, he is an energetic attacking midfielder with an eye for goal and the ability to spot a pass, Kind of like Lampard PLUS :) Admitidly he has not been him self since last spring, he looks exhausted, but as posted by Gambit earlier this could be down to having a newborn in the house :) Or uncertainty over his future.
 
We will sign 2 center midfielders and a keeper this summer. Straight replacements for Van der Sar, Scholes and Hargreaves.
Mean while Cleverly will be promoted to be Giggs long term successor on the wings.

I'd agree with that.
GK's a certainty.
I'd expect Rodwell in for Hargreaves.
For an attacking midfielder, Defour seems to have a good overall game.
Another is Mario Götze, the issue would be his inexperience and injury record, but talent-wise he looks fantastic.
 
Rodwell and Bale would be two very sound investments, even if they cost £70-80m between them!


Shame about the debt eh?
 
Xavi Matinez could really work out well for us, he's a proper cm who can do his share of defensive duties plus a good passer of the ball, he's a bit like Xabi Alonso. Would love him at United.
 
See thats it, he's gone from incredibly dynamic to almost just another Italian style player. Then again he is having his first year with a sprog. It's weird trying to explain to people what he's been like. When they see his current performances.

I'll take your word for it. I don't really watch much Italian football at the moment and when I have seen Hamsik recently he hasn't looked particularly special.
 
I'll take your word for it. I don't really watch much Italian football at the moment and when I have seen Hamsik recently he hasn't looked particularly special.

He was incredible the last few seasons, the original comparisons of a mixture of Lampard and Nedved weren't far off the mark. Then he just went off the boil.
 
Rodwell actually sounds like a good call because he would probably not cost that much, also Defour although in both cases Fellaini's transfer fee scares me - partly because I don't see Everton selling a superior player for a lower or even similar, and partly because Standard would likely demand an equal price for Defour.

Perhaps there's another midfielder somewhere in Holland, Belgium or other lesser league that we could pick up without spending £20m+. Ligue 1 is interesting too as apart from Lyon players seem to get sold at decent prices.
 
Xavi Matinez could really work out well for us, he's a proper cm who can do his share of defensive duties plus a good passer of the ball, he's a bit like Xabi Alonso. Would love him at United.

He's good and also a threat from set pieces with his heading. But I slightly prefer Bruno at Villarreal
 
My muppet list. To stave off some pre-lunch boredom. Definitely nothing revolutionary.

Manuel Neuer -- Prime target. Right age, lots of quality, plenty of experience, all the scouting reports are good, very few major rivals to his signing. With VDS going, he should be a priority.

Jack Rodwell -- Don't give a gnat's chuff about not being the finished product yet, we don't buy finished products anyway. Right age, English, bags of potential, and we can bring out the best in him. Looks classy as hell. We seem to have a decent relationship with Everton, and can offer potential exchanges such as Gibson. Henderson is obviously an alternative, and we also have good relations with Sunderland. Could be a coin toss between these two.

Steven Defour -- No secret Fergie has a boner for this guy, and his fee wouldn't be ridiculous. With both Scholes and Hargreaves off soon (either this summer or next), and Gibson still not reaching any sort of potential, I think CM is another big priority. Along with Rodders, could be a prime target.

Ashley Young -- I think another winger is a possibility, but I don't see many available realistic options. Young stands out as the main name being bandied about, and Villa have certainly shown themselves to be willing to sell prized assets for the right price. Again, he fits the bill for Fergie -- young, English, experienced, pacey.

Expect Cleverley and Welbeck to return. Unsure about Macheda yet. MB Diouf will go. The sticking point on new signings is how willing Fergie is to trust the latest crop of youth talents.

Normally I'd be cautious in expecting lots of new players (especially pricey ones), but with Giggs, Scholes, Hargreaves, VDS all going soon, Gibson not improving at any sort of rate, and Carrick/Park both hitting their 30s, this might be a productive summer.

In my misguided opinion.