How unrealistic is this transfer wishlist?

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Rafael-----Ferdinand---Vidic-----Evra
Nani------Hamsik------Carrick----Bale
-----------Rooney----Berbatov-------

How unstoppable would we be?
 
Donkey's Ears said:
Surely it's not Henderson you mind but the potential price for Henderson?
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I mind both him and the price. I've watched him many times this season and there is nothing special about him tbh. I'd even rather take Charlie Adam on a short term deal than Henderson. Or just give Cleverley a chance.
 
Im not sure about Bale.....apart from the period around the Inter games he hasnt really done enough to be classed as a £45 million player. If he doesnt add some more to his game by next season I can see him being found out.
 
I thought Sanchez played on the wing. As for the 4 centre mids we play with three as it as and if Scholes retires and Gibson moves on we are left with Anderson, Carrick and Fletcher and none of them are overly consistent. Anyway as I said I would take Modric and Hamsik first and what about them two and Carrick or Anderson in midfield??
 
If you take a look at other top teams who carry between 4 and 6 CM's, the only difference is they have one truly class CM amongst the list. Our truly class CM is 36. so I see Fletcher, Anderson and Carrick as the backbone of the midfield unit, we just need to add that stand out CM to the mix.

If a midfielder like Rodwell or Henderson is brought in I think they will be in place of Gibson as the young prospect.

I also think we could do with a player who can play on the left in 4-4-2 and between the midfield and striker in 4-5-1/4-3-3 as too often in that system Rooney or Berba get isolated. Names like Sanchez, Hazard to a lesser extent and even young Eriksen come to mind, but Ashely Young is a less exciting but realistic option.

On the keeper front I am less definite on needing a new one as everyone else is, only Neuer stands out for me as worth spunking big money on.
 
i think we're gonna sign 4 players this summer

a GK - god knows
2 midfielders - 1 established, 1 young and british
a left winger - ashley young although i wish it was bale
 
Id happily take a world class keeper and someone like Modric/Rodwell. Think thats all we need.
 
Ramshock said:
I would like to know how realistic or unrealistic getting most or all of the following players would be this summer. Add or subtract who you wish!

Hamsik
Modric
Rodwell
Defour
Sanchez
Stekelenburg

I want them all but if I could only have half of them I suppose Hamsik, Modric and Stekelenburg would make the most impact immediately!
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I don't want five or six signings. Giggs and Scholes will hopefully stay for years more. As long as they are here, we should use them as much as possible, and use the big money afterwards, or in other problem areas. Signing Hamsik, Modric, Rodwell, Defour, Sanchez and Stekelenburg would be counter productive it would make us a worse team.

Our midfield is strong, it is not easy to improve it... We need to give the one arriving on central midfield as much matching as possible, you know Scholes and Giggs will get chances there if they both sign, meaning if we sign Hamsik and Modric... Signing four?!? That is Real Madrid thinking, and that is not value for money. Ferguson would turn some of those players down if Glazers offered him to sign them all. It is simply not value for money.

Replacing the entire midfield would be retarded. I personally don't want Sanchez. I love his skills, he is a great player! but we have Nani and Valencia on the right wing. We need a left-footer, and someone that specializes on the left, because there are no doubt that Nani is better on the right than he is on the left. We need something that the ones we have don't have, Sanchez is worse than Nani and not much better than Valencia. I'd rather have someone like Gareth Bale, Angel di Maria, Juan Mata or Douglas Costa. I think that should be priority one, maybe even above a new goalie because Lindegaard and PIG are not that bad.

We will get Cleverley and Welbeck back from successful loans in the Premier League, they will probably both get a chance for us next season, and we need to give it to them, producing our own is a vital part of this clubs history. I would not sign more than maximum one central midfielder. Signing the four you suggest would reduce Anderson's, Cleverley and Gibson (should we keep him) chances developing, it will make us a worse team. I don't think Stekelenburg is not the best option to replace van der Sar neither.

To say it like this - if we sign 2 players like Bale and Adler/Neuer we would end up being a better side than if we signed all those you suggest... It would not be a dream scenario at all. Ferguson would never do something like that even if he could.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
We will sign 2 center midfleielders and a keeper this summer. Straight replacements for Van der Sar, Scholes and Hargreaves.


Mean while Cleverly will be promoted to be Giggs long term successor on the wings.
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Is cleverly talented enough to do that? Seen very little of him.

Would love it if we began to strengthen the midfield. It's a real weakness of ours. Two players would be fantastic. Preferably technically gifted.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
We will sign 2 center midfielders and a keeper this summer. Straight replacements for Van der Sar, Scholes and Hargreaves.


Mean while Cleverly will be promoted to be Giggs long term successor on the wings.
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Cleverly may have been used as a winger by Wigan. That is not where he will play for United though. He will play in central midfield.
 
buckooo1978 said:
i think we're gonna sign 4 players this summer

a GK - god knows
2 midfielders - 1 established, 1 young and british
a left winger - ashley young although i wish it was bale
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Welbeck and Cleverley will probably return this summer. I really hope Ferguson will give them the go, and therefore only sign one midfielder. Or lend out Cleverley for another year and sign two as you are suggesting. I hope he does not sign two and bring Cleverley back, because that will lead to too little playing time for Cleverley.

Ashley Young is not good enough, he is not a significant improvement to the ones we have... We can use Valencia, Park, Nani, even Cleverley & Welbeck can do a winger role. I really hope we spend big! If the one we sign are no better than the ones we have, its not a point signing. I doubt Ashley Young is a option.
 
Georgie Best said:
Replacing the entire midfield would be retarded. I personally don't want Sanchez. I love his skills, he is a great player! but we have Nani and Valencia on the right wing. We need a left-footer, and someone that specializes on the left, because there are no doubt that Nani is better on the right than he is on the left. We need something that the ones we have don't have, Sanchez is worse than Nani and not much better than Valencia. I'd rather have someone like Gareth Bale, Angel di Maria, Juan Mata or Douglas Costa. I think that should be priority one, maybe even above a new goalie because Lindegaard and PIG are not that bad.
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Agreed with pretty much all of your post but especially the bit in bold. I really hope we sign a naturally left sided winger. It makes life so much easier with natural width on each side, using the full width of the pitch and producing quality outswinging crosses. If they can take a corner or a free kick on top of that then that would be even better. If we had Nani, Valencia + 1 for the 2 wide slots i'd prefer us to use Giggs, Park and Cleverley more in the centre to supplement the options we already have (Carrick, Scholes, Fletcher, Anderson) in which case i'd be more than happy.
 
From an outsider's perspective, I don't think there's much doubt that the centre of midfield needs strengthening. I know it's a bit cliched to say 'oh, if you had one of two world class players more you'd be a great side' but it's very difficult to say with much conviction that the United midfield of right now is one of your best.

I know it's difficult to get up to one of United's best midfields - '99's Giggs-Scholes-Keane-Beckham was very good, for example. But the one today isn't really even close to it. Nani is fine, keep him. Anderson, Fletcher and Carrick are all what I would call top four squad players when in current form. When the latter two are on top form, they are rightly starters for a top four side. Anderson never strikes me as actually ever fulfilling his potential. He's your equivalent of Diaby for me - quite clearly has it all, but never seems to show it in the actual game in an effective manner.

So I would buy one central midfielder, or two depending on what's happening to Hargreaves. The defence is fine, whilst the forward line is good too. I suspect you won't buy a goal-keeper for one reason or another. I imagine that the potential replacement for Hargreaves will be a relatively unknown player, whilst you might sign a 'big name' to take Scholes' place. Regardless of whether he retires or not, you need someone to replace his creativity. Obviously names have been mentioned, but that's not for me to say.

Central midfield is the pressing concern, and it's why I suspect you've struggled away from home this season. But it's hardly a massive problem, and there's no way you'll need five or six players as some people are mooting.
 
Georgie Best said:
Welbeck and Cleverley will probably return this summer. I really hope Ferguson will give them the go, and therefore only sign one midfielder. Or lend out Cleverley for another year and sign two as you are suggesting. I hope he does not sign two and bring Cleverley back, because that will lead to too little playing time for Cleverley.

Ashley Young is not good enough, he is not a significant improvement to the ones we have... We can use Valencia, Park, Nani, even Cleverley & Welbeck can do a winger role. I really hope we spend big! If the one we sign are no better than the ones we have, its not a point signing. I doubt Ashley Young is a option.
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what makes me think ashley young is his contract situation - he'll have a year left come the summer

as well as that people mention players like sanchez who is excellent but plays on the right

Youngs done better than you think as well - his goals/assists are up there with Nani's this season

I'd love us to spend big myself but can you really see Spurs selling Bale

if we do spend big i think it'll be on a central midfielder as its where we lack quality

think it'll be value all the way with young or another more obscure signing
 
Ramshock said:
I would like to know how realistic or unrealistic getting most or all of the following players would be this summer. Add or subtract who you wish!

Hamsik
Modric
Rodwell
Defour
Sanchez
Stekelenburg

I want them all but if I could only have half of them I suppose Hamsik, Modric and Stekelenburg would make the most impact immediately!
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Fairly realistic, for City. If they signed them all would you support them?
 
People were branded muppets on here when they thought that signing Hargreaves, Anderson, Nani and Tevez was realistic. We won the double that year thanks to our squad depth. We need new players next summer, especially in the middle of the park where we lack quality.
 
Hellboy said:
People were branded muppets on here when they thought that signing Hargreaves, Anderson, Nani and Tevez was realistic. We won the double that year thanks to our squad depth. We need new players next summer, especially in the middle of the park where we lack quality.
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I challenge you to find one post that suggested we might sign all 4 of those players.

It would be great if we packed our squad full of talent like we did that season, but cmon nobody picked out all 4 suggesting we will sign them. So nobody was branded a muppet for doing it.
 
You are looking at £100m+ spending here, there is absolutely no way it is going to happen. In my view we might sign a goalkeeper and there's a chance we will go after a midfielder but with Giggs getting an extension I think we won't, if we do it will be more like Charlie Adam at £10m than your stars for £20m+ each. Maybe a winger or a striker if an opportunity comes along but doubt it too.
 
Sarni said:
You are looking at £100m+ spending here, there is absolutely no way it is going to happen. In my view we might sign a goalkeeper and there's a chance we will go after a midfielder but with Giggs getting an extension I think we won't, if we do it will be more like Charlie Adam at £10m than your stars for £20m+ each. Maybe a winger or a striker if an opportunity comes along but doubt it too.
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Just a quick question, I have noticed you are nearly always negative about the chance of United bringing in even one top class player, is this because you think our team is currently so good that it doesn't need anyone? or do you think we are broke as some others do?
 
My wishlist would be Lukaku, Ramsey, Sonogo and Sissoko. They're all great on Football Manager.

This is what we do in this thread isn't it?
 
Ekeke said:
I challenge you to find one post that suggested we might sign all 4 of those players.

It would be great if we packed our squad full of talent like we did that season, but cmon nobody picked out all 4 suggesting we will sign them. So nobody was branded a muppet for doing it.
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I just mean that suggesting 3 or 4 quality signings (e.g a couple of midfielders and Alexis Sanchez) is realistic.
 
Hellboy said:
I just mean that suggesting 3 or 4 quality signings (e.g a couple of midfielders and Alexis Sanchez) is realistic.
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It was unlike us to do the business we did that season. Loaning Tevez from MSI, signing a young player who missed most of the previous season with a an injury, signing the injury prone Hargreaves and Nani all the same summer. Until we did do it, we'd never done that before so it was a bit silly to expect us to do it.

We've now done it once ever, so while it wouldnt be as out of the blue as before its still a bit unlikely. You mght say that Giggs, Scholes and Neville make it more likely but... Okay Neville is gone but he was never getting first team games anyway. Giggs has signed on for another year. And that makes it likely Scholes might stay on for one more as well.
 
I reckon we'll end up with Stekelenburg and one of Rodwell, Henderson or Defour. And that Chamberlain-lad perhaps, but I somehow doubt it.
 
Ekeke said:
It was unlike us to do the business we did that season. Loaning Tevez from MSI, signing a young player who missed most of the previous season with a an injury, signing the injury prone Hargreaves and Nani all the same summer. Until we did do it, we'd never done that before so it was a bit silly to expect us to do it.

We've now done it once ever, so while it wouldnt be as out of the blue as before its still a bit unlikely. You mght say that Giggs, Scholes and Neville make it more likely but... Okay Neville is gone but he was never getting first team games anyway. Giggs has signed on for another year. And that makes it likely Scholes might stay on for one more as well.
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It was unlike us, but the results were worth the investment. Those four signings all played their part during the season. We don't need to replace Neville, Rafael is already one of the best RBs in the league. Giggs is wonderful, but I feel that he will be used as an attacking midfielder next season (although we've being saying that for a few years now), hence the need for a wide player. As for Scholes, he can be brilliant, but he doesn't have the engine to play week in week out for us anymore, especially with both Fletcher and Carrick being out of form.

I hope that Welbeck, Cleverley, Pogba, and Morrison play their part next year, but we need a world class midfielder around, at least one major signing.
 
Bear Attack said:
---------------Neuer----------------
Rafael-----Ferdinand---Vidic-----Evra
Nani------Hamsik------Carrick----Bale
-----------Rooney----Berbatov-------

How unstoppable would we be?
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They'd get trampled in the middle.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Is cleverly talented enough to do that? Seen very little of him.
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He is Park with center midfielder vision and better goal threat. He can definitely do the wing playmaker role Giggs does for us now in the long term.

amolbhatia100 said:
Would love it if we began to strengthen the midfield. It's a real weakness of ours. Two players would be fantastic. Preferably technically gifted.
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I'm convinced that is what we will do.
 
Red Dreams said:
Cleverly may have been used as a winger by Wigan. That is not where he will play for United though. He will play in central midfield.
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Our midfield is too stacked for that to ever happen. Wing is the one place he will get regular playing time.

It would be a waste to have him competing with Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs, Scholes and 2 new men for a central role.
 
Devil may care said:
Just a quick question, I have noticed you are nearly always negative about the chance of United bringing in even one top class player, is this because you think our team is currently so good that it doesn't need anyone? or do you think we are broke as some others do?
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I think our midfield could be better but Ferguson seems to have faith in it seeing as he didn't even try to bolster it last Summer so I cannot see why he would do it now when nothing has really changed. Besides, there is a need for a goalkeeper who is going to cost some money and I don't think we have much of it to be honest, I think £25m net spending is the most we could afford at the minute and even that is pushing it to the limits, you won't get a top quality proven midfielder and a goalkeeper for that. Our midfield needed a new player last Sunmer and the Summer before as well to be honest, nothing was done, and I think we won't make another move until Scholes and Giggs retire.
 
Hellboy said:
I just mean that suggesting 3 or 4 quality signings (e.g a couple of midfielders and Alexis Sanchez) is realistic.
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I cannot see who we are going to sell this time to be able to afford that. The Summer we bought Nani and the rest we sold players for a total of around £40m, so our net spending at the time was circa £20m.
 
I'm getting a feeling that we won't sign a goalkeeper now actually, doesn't seem like fergie to buy lindegaard as a backup purely.

Only important thing for me is a proper top quality cm
 
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