How do you separate Robson and Keane?

[buckooo1978]

Hmmmmm Im not so sure about profesionallism, not all the time at least.

1: Deliberately injuring another professional? Oh yeah very professional

2: Stamping on Gareth southgate for the first of 11 Utd red cards

3: Elbowing Jason Mcateer in the face at sunderland

4: Walking out on Ireland

Dont get me wrong, I would never question his achievements for Utd, his influence on both team and club or his skill as a player, but lets not make out he was some kind of saint. If we are being kind we would say he had issues.......fans of other sides would call him a thug.........

Yeah you can't deny that...

when i talk about professionalism I'm referring to the way Keane always gave 100% and after his early days at Forest he was never one to be out boozing/shagging around like current players

Robbo on the other hand had a right few stories about drinking/gambling/womanising

in terms of the haaland, southgate, mc ateer and other incidents Keane's drive and desire to win were built on his spirit - he was like a warrior on the pitch and sometimes that overflowed

Keane was also stubborn and held grudges - this obviously was a flaw and isnt professional - doing Haaland was for him mocking keane feigning injury about 6 years before....

his agression was a strength and in the heat of battle there are always going to players who wind you up, try to do you and this will spill over sometimes - its inevitable

he was professional in Turin - he thought about the good of the team - not himself

as for Ireland I think people are split - I'm Irish myself and I'm not sure how much my admiration for Keane flavours this but the fact is that Ireland failed to prepare, were a laughing stock amongst the players from top clubs and we arrived at the world cup in bad shape...

when the players arrived they hadnt any footballs! countries like Cameroon put our preparations to shame - Mc Carthy has to take some responsibility in it for putting a character like Keane, a player who was used to meticulous preparations to achieve the best, in a position where he was never going to bend over for Mick - To be honest I don't think Keane walked out on his country - I dont think he was driven out either

I just think he was put in a position where he was always going to walk - you could question Keane's judgement at times and McCarthy's man management but you could never question Keane's pride

 

[lysglimt]

My opinion...

Bryan Robson was respected as a brilliant footballer - he scored goals, created chances and was loved by almost everyone. He made his team better by giving 110% all the time

Roy Keane was feared as a hard-man and a footballer - he denied the opposition goals and was hated by almost everyone. He made his team better by getting everyone to give 110% all the time

Bryan Robson was the better footballer - Roy Keane the better leader

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

Yeah you can't deny that...

when i talk about professionalism I'm referring to the way Keane always gave 100% and after his early days at Forest he was never one to be out boozing/shagging around like current players

Robbo on the other hand had a right few stories about drinking/gambling/womanising

in terms of the haaland, southgate, mc ateer and other incidents Keane's drive and desire to win were built on his spirit - he was like a warrior on the pitch and sometimes that overflowed

Keane was also stubborn and held grudges - this obviously was a flaw and isnt professional - doing Haaland was for him mocking keane feigning injury about 6 years before....

his agression was a strength and in the heat of battle there are always going to players who wind you up, try to do you and this will spill over sometimes - its inevitable

he was professional in Turin - he thought about the good of the team - not himself

as for Ireland I think people are split - I'm Irish myself and I'm not sure how much my admiration for Keane flavours this but the fact is that Ireland failed to prepare, were a laughing stock amongst the players from top clubs and we arrived at the world cup in bad shape...

when the players arrived they hadnt any footballs! countries like Cameroon put our preparations to shame - Mc Carthy has to take some responsibility in it for putting a character like Keane, a player who was used to meticulous preparations to achieve the best, in a position where he was never going to bend over for Mick - To be honest I don't think Keane walked out on his country - I dont think he was driven out either

I just think he was put in a position where he was always going to walk - you could question Keane's judgement at times and McCarthy's man management but you could never question Keane's pride

All good points and you are right, you could never ever doubt his desire and will to win, and that night in Turin still ranks as one of the most inspirational performances from a single player Ive ever seen.