How different would the fan response be if Pochettino was our manager

It would be worse because he’s shite.
 
Honestly, as much as I didn't want Pochettino, I wouldn't blame him for the chaos caused by Glazernomics, Richard Arnold being asleep at the wheel and Murtough madness.

No coach, no matter who they are, could expect to be successful with the set up we have at Man Utd.

We're starting this season, effectively, with the same players who delivered our worst season in Premier League history. Except for a backup left back, a free transfer utility midfielder and a centre back we arguably didn't need. Why should people expect results to just improve, as if by magic?
 
I think we should realise by now that the managers are only a small part of the problem.
 
Trex said:
Just thinking ........absolute carnage!!
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Why would it be any different?!

I think he'd probably have done a better job than Ten Hag thus far as he knows the league and our players better
 
I'm no Poch fan boy just thinking ETH is probably buying the hierarchy time because he's the fan's choice.
 
It would be better as there would be 0 expectations.

A man who won nothing at Spurs despite having a great squad, and finishing 3rd in a 2 horse race. Then went to France and failed to win the league with PSG.

Being bottom with United wouldn’t be as much of a surprise with Poch.
 
I don't know what the response would be, but I do wonder if the set up in the team may be more pragmatic.

Either way I'm glad we got Ten Hag, and I hope he can build the team he wants to.
 
I think if Poch was appointed we would have started a bit better as he was reportedly the players choice. But the usual thing would have happened with this team once they faced any sort of adversity.
 
In response to what?

to the 2 losses in the PL? if that is the question, then it would be the same, the fan sentiment would still be very low, be it Poch or Ten Hag, what might differ is if Poch will be cut slack as much as Ten Hag.
 
We might find out in a few months time!
 
Becks_VII said:
I think if Poch was appointed we would have started a bit better as he was reportedly the players choice. But the usual thing would have happened with this team once they faced any sort of adversity.
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Well they faced adversity already against Brighton (conceding 1st) & Brentford (DDG error), and they crumbled, what would Poch have done better here?
 
We could have prime fergie, busby, pep and shankly all in charge at once and even they wont be able to salvage the mess we're in.

DOOOOOOOM
 
A lot of the frustration is around our work in the transfer market which may have gone a little better had we not been chasing de Jong.
 
OmarUnited4ever said:
Well they faced adversity already against Brighton (conceding 1st) & Brentford (DDG error), and they crumbled, what would Poch have done better here?
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Well he wouldn’t try to get possession football out of Bruno Fernándes and Ronaldo for example.
 
OmarUnited4ever said:
Well they faced adversity already against Brighton (conceding 1st) & Brentford (DDG error), and they crumbled, what would Poch have done better here?
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I am saying if the players got what they wanted, Poch, they would have started better, then crumbled later on anyway due to their poor mentality
 
Probably worse because far less people wanted him over ETH so the starting point would have been worse.
 
Bebestation said:
Well he wouldn’t try to get possession football out of Bruno Fernándes and Ronaldo for example.
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even, these guys just crumbled mate, and gave up early, especially during Brentford's game. possession football or direct football would have made no difference if the players didn't even bother to compete during a game of football.
 
We wouldn't have wasted the summer on De Jong and would have chased more realistic targets suited to the PL. But Murtough etc would have still messed it up.
 
Becks_VII said:
I am saying if the players got what they wanted, Poch, they would have started better, then crumbled later on anyway due to their poor mentality
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I really doubt that, I do not think they have recovered from last season humiliations against City, Liverpool, Brighton, Palace and so, and it showed this season.
 
Cloud7 said:
Probably worse because far less people wanted him over ETH so the starting point would have been worse.
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The ex players in the media wanted him so the pundit and journalist support would be there, which would probably influence the fan support somewhat
 
OmarUnited4ever said:
even, these guys just crumbled mate, and gave up early, especially during Brentford's game. possession football or direct football would have made no difference if the players didn't even bother to compete during a game of football.
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Well if you tactically try to get a modern keeper out of de gea that leads to mistake after mistake - then he is arguably shooting him self in the foot.

That doesn’t mean who is or isn’t the better manager - but shows why Ten Hag has supposedly had horrible starts at all of his club; it’s hard to get a ken out of a Barbie.
 
Pretty confident he would have been given more leeway, because according to reports around the interview process Pochettino demanded what Ralf wanted, to rip the team up, he didn't want to wait 4 months to "assess the team". No doubt its part of why he wasn't seriously considered and ETH was, 'revolution not evolution' etc.
 
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OmarUnited4ever said:
I really doubt that, I do not think they have recovered from last season humiliations against City, Liverpool, Brighton, Palace and so, and it showed this season.
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You could be right. I just think what Roy Keane said is right, these players will continue to throw managers under the bus and this is not down to their ability entirely, as we know a lot of these players are talented enough, at least not to be hammered 4-0 by Brentford
 
This forum is a funny place at times....you can see the clear influence of fan sites and social media wherever you look...

I am all for the appointment of ETH but this total dismissal of Pochettino's record is ridiculous. He did a great job at Southampton, a great job at Spurs and then did a fair job at PSG who are notoriously very tricky to manage (ask Tuchel)

Think of it this way...if Pochettino had managed Ajax, would he have won a few league titles? I suspect he would. However, if ETH had managed Southampton, Tottenham and PSG, would he have done as well as Pochettino? I think the jury is out on that one, I am less sure.
 
it wouldnt be much different. I dont rate him at all, but its clear to everyone that the issues right now are not the managers fault, regardless of who the manager is.
 
It wouldn't be worse as his stock has crashed since going to psg while ten hat's was and is quite high.
 
Fans would have gone in far harder on Poch. The vast majority wanted ETH. If Poch came in and started this bad, our fans would have blamed him and said we should have signed ETH.
 
Bebestation said:
Well if you tactically try to get a modern keeper out of de gea that leads to mistake after mistake - then he is arguably shooting him self in the foot.

That doesn’t mean who is or isn’t the better manager - but shows why Ten Hag has supposedly had horrible starts at all of his club; it’s hard to get a ken out of a Barbie.
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Can't disagree with you, probably a risk averse tactics could have been safer for these losers.

Ten Hag's style requires a lot of hard work, graft, fight and being brave, these guys ain't got it.
 
Becks_VII said:
You could be right. I just think what Roy Keane said is right, these players will continue to throw managers under the bus and this is not down to their ability entirely, as we know a lot of these players are talented enough, at least not to be hammered 4-0 by Brentford
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I thought the same too (that these players are talented enough), now I am not sure really
 
It'd be better because unlike with ETH, we wouldn't even expect anything good to begin with.
 
littlepeasoup said:
Fan sentiment - get to feck
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Slightly off topic, but this post reminded me of something*. Its actually doing my head in and perhaps one of the older members can help: wasn't there a manager (not United) who went into a club and the first thing he did was order removal of all the old pictures, he got the big murals painted over and basically said to the team, that is history, we need to make our own history now (or words to that effect).

I think Erik Tern Hag should do something like that at Old Trafford.

*When I say reminded me, I can't actually think who it was, Brian Clough perhaps?
 
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OmarUnited4ever said:
I thought the same too (that these players are talented enough), now I am not sure really
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Ye jury it back out on this at the moment. Mentality is a major part of the professional game and unfortunately a lot of these players do not have it
 
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