I did read what you said. None of it has to do with this article unless you think the discussion points are somehow not a reflection of reality? Ditto mate.
Television House of the Dragon (GoT Prequel) - No book spoilers allowed
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Isn’t it lucky that the rest of the world doesn’t exist inside this article ?
question: is anti woke a real term?
Answer: everything I wrote.
you: hurr durr you just don’t like diversity!!!! Even though I clearly said the opposite of that, and that I don’t like BAD WRITING.
This isn’t a war, mate. You don’t have to keep on banging the woke drum trying to convince everyone that you’re right and everyone else is a sexist racist homophobic trump supporter. I ended my original post with “happy to be proven wrong.”. A signal to anyone with basic reading skills that I had left the door open on the subject. But you repeated the article at me like it was some gotcha moment. You have your opinion, I have mine. It’s up to them to change my mind, not you. And certainly not by dismissing every other opinion as “wrong think”.
Honestly, for a bunch of people so against bigotry, you sure do love to play bigotry’s greatest hits to win your arguments. I’m out, you can have the last word which I’m sure will be well laid out and thought provoking. Hopefully it doesnt rustle my Jimmy is too much. My poor funko pop collection just couldn’t take it.
You take care, bud. And have a good weekend.
Trailer looks decent but still hesitant. I feel like GOT Seasons 1-4 are too high to reach for this show as they’re based on GRRM manuscript, rather than GRRM vague lore. Surprised that the Blackfyre Rebellion wasn’t the story they did first after GOT ended.
Not a book reader. But is there a load of historic content that could potentially be used for further spin offs.
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The dance of the dragons probably has the most text of any Grrm story in this world (not counting dunk and egg which he also offered to HBO as another potential successor) and it's apparently the one he's kept wanting them to adapt next since 2016, gone through 3 writing teams before he landed on Condal from what the THR article said. It's also seen as the beginning of the end which I think they want to play into and connect to the story of got. I think it can be really good but it also depends on how the audience responds, they might not be in the mood for it and this isn't got which has obvious good guys to support. The production value at least stands out far above any other of the so-called got successors but that doesn't mean a lot of the story doesn't match up.
There is the world of ice and fire and the fire and blood (1 of 2 has been published so far) which are respectively a history on westeros and the rest of the world and a history of the targaryens starting with the conquest of westeros.
Im looking forward to this if only for the reactions from non readers trying to figure out who is who. Remember in season 1 when some people said there was too many characters and they couldnt keep track? Cant wait when they realise 80% of the cast are Targaryens married to each other 
Fair points and i agree with you. As i said i am against everything that is deliberately forced on us by the corporate people in Hollywood especially.. What i mean - do i have a problem that a black actor is playing one of the leading characters of the show? Absolutely not. Do i have a problem with the decision of the showrunners to add a black cast just like that for no obvious reason but to be in line with the modern ways of not offending anyone?? YES, YES, and again YES. Just for example - one of my fav movies from the past - Airplane! would be not possible to be done today..just imagine the blackwash and the rage of that pedo jokes scene alone hahahaha The autors and the actors would be crucified in the social media nowdays..We live in a very sad times actually..
Interesting how you went from discussing the casting of a black person to pedophilia. Fascinating how closely related the two are in your mind.
This looks GOOOD!
I'm hyped. Will it be shown on sky Atlantic? Will I be needing yet another subscription?
I'm hyped. Will it be shown on sky Atlantic? Will I be needing yet another subscription?
Respectfully, you sound dense.
Am i? So why the heck then there is even a need the Autor to explain himself like in this article : https://ustimetoday.com/george-rr-martin-says-game-of-thrones-is-no-more-anti-woman-than-real-life/ Isn't it because some snowflakes and Karen's of the internet moaned of how poor are the women treated in the GoT World?? We live in a very sad times indeed...
Yes.
A brief comment in response to a question at a convention that notes his stories‘ parallels with medieval Britain is proof that the ‘woke crowd’ is ruining the world...learn something new everyday I guess.
Funny thing about the loser internet nerds who whine about "forced representation" is that if they actually saw the reality of accurate representation on screen they'd lose their minds.
For example people complained about "forced representation" in Star Wars when if it was based on the actual demographics of planet earth then, what, two out of every ten human characters would be white? Which they wouldn't like at all.
At which point they have to think of a reason the humans in that story shouldn't actually reflect humanity in a real-to-life way but should instead reflect the imagined mostly-white, English-speaking humanity they prefer seeing on screen. The most rational non-racist argument for which being "the films and their sensibilities are geared towards an audience that has a different demographic make-up than that of humanity at large, so it's natural that the films should reflect that in order to best appeal to that audience".
At which point they've made the argument for representation themselves. They just want it in the form of the continued forced over-representation of white people on screen rather than (a more rational) approach of expanded representation to appeal to a wider audience.
For example people complained about "forced representation" in Star Wars when if it was based on the actual demographics of planet earth then, what, two out of every ten human characters would be white? Which they wouldn't like at all.
At which point they have to think of a reason the humans in that story shouldn't actually reflect humanity in a real-to-life way but should instead reflect the imagined mostly-white, English-speaking humanity they prefer seeing on screen. The most rational non-racist argument for which being "the films and their sensibilities are geared towards an audience that has a different demographic make-up than that of humanity at large, so it's natural that the films should reflect that in order to best appeal to that audience".
At which point they've made the argument for representation themselves. They just want it in the form of the continued forced over-representation of white people on screen rather than (a more rational) approach of expanded representation to appeal to a wider audience.
The funny part is these sad shites will complain and complain about the show and yet will watch the show anyway despite being anti-woke. It's honestly hilarious how fecking stupid these people are. If they are going to scream about anti woke and have a hissy fit at any show then at least stand by their convictions and not watch it. Dickheads be dickheads.
I'm excited. HBO make great shows and I see no reason this won't be..
Trailer looks great. Better than the Lord of the Rings show trailer to be honest.
And that means something coming from me because I love the lord of the rings but Amazon don't make shows as well as HBO that's for sure.
Hopefully they are both great
Trailer looks great. Better than the Lord of the Rings show trailer to be honest.
And that means something coming from me because I love the lord of the rings but Amazon don't make shows as well as HBO that's for sure.
Hopefully they are both great
I can think of two
The second half and in particular the last 2 seasons of GOT were such a car crash that it's very difficult for me to be excited about this. If the tone and storytelling is similar to those last two GOT seasons I won't even bother to hate-watch.
Also, is it just my impression or have HBO long stopped being a "guarantee" of quality? Their more recent flagships are mostly too Hollywood-y, and even their best recent productions are a far cry from absolute masterpieces such as The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under... Am I missing out on some of their stuff?
Also, is it just my impression or have HBO long stopped being a "guarantee" of quality? Their more recent flagships are mostly too Hollywood-y, and even their best recent productions are a far cry from absolute masterpieces such as The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under... Am I missing out on some of their stuff?
I guess the issue was the last 2 seasons weren’t really on paper. As in the book hadn’t been released yet.
The whole plot of this prequel is in one of the books so I am optimistic. I’m hoping they don’t drag it though. If it’s a one off mini series it could be great. Then season 2 is another GOT prequel story.
I think if you take a serious and reasoned look back at where Game of Thrones went wrong then you need to look at the amount of boobs in each season and that in itself will tell you how good it was. Season one had the most (best season) and season eight had the least (worst season).
Conclusion; the only way this can be good is with bewbs.
Conclusion; the only way this can be good is with bewbs.
GoT got progressively worse until it was basically a collection of "badass" clips for Twitter and TicToc with little to no deeper thought or logic.
We live in a world where every successful "franchise" is shitting out one garbage product after another to milk fans as much as possible.
This got made mainly, because GoT was very popular, not necessarily because it's actually a good show.
The world won’t allow for both to be great. We’re not in that timeline.
One will be watchable, the other will be straight shite.
United has been winning games so maybe our timeline has shifted...The world won’t allow for both to be great. We’re not in that timeline.
One will be watchable, the other will be straight shite.
That is interesting in contrast to The Rings of Power, where nudity would apparently ruin the whole project. It appears we have an inverse bewbage to quality ratio between the two shows. That merits monitoring going forward, the relative value of the bewbality constant.
This is a completely different team which includes Sapochnik who directed some of the best, most popular got episodes. And the other show runner is Ryan Condal who has been a long time fan of Grrm. There's miles between how d&d talked about got and how these two have spoken about this project so far, of course talk is cheap so we have to see it in action but when the writer himself is very enthusiastic about it that definitely offers some reassurance. He threw some subtle shade about how he's been very happy about how they have adapted his characters so far.
This story has a much more intimate setting and is probably also quite a bit darker than got in the sense that the characters are much more grey than those of got, there's no outright good guy like Ned Stark. It's basically about a family ripping themselves apart over a throne. Lots of politicking and scheming and dying and lying. So it really depends on if you're into that.
They're two completely different types of stories and worlds. Either way I think it's always good to start these things with an open mind.The world won’t allow for both to be great. We’re not in that timeline.
One will be watchable, the other will be straight shite.
Can’t vouch for the quality of this content creator as I’ve only just found him, but he’s got me more excited about the show. Gives a glowing review of the actor playing Daemon.
Says “spoiler-free” but of course view at your own risk…
Says “spoiler-free” but of course view at your own risk…
He's a bit of a loon, spent two months making a 90 min documentary on the "true character" of Daenerys. But otherwise seems to respond to things in a normal, balanced way. Basically all of the reviews coming out so far have been good to fantastic. A lot of enthusiasm for it from those that watched, someone said game of thrones meets succession. I dont know about anyone else but that's exactly what I want to hear.
Bunch of new teasers that have come out this past day or two.
Happy premiere week. Don't know about you guys but I'm just as excited as I was in the GoT days
Happy premiere week. Don't know about you guys but I'm just as excited as I was in the GoT days
Have to say I'm really looking forward to it. It's been long enough since GoT ended and all the drama surrounding that, and the fact that this isn't a continuation of that story has me excited for it. Hopefully, it lives up to the expectation. Although, I'm not sure how high the expectations are after what happened with GoT. Could be a good thing for the show, actually.
I'm looking forward to it although would have preferred something new 100 years or so in the future than the past. The issue with prequels is you already no to an extent where things end up, would have loved to see a new story from this universe going directly to the screen.
That being said, I felt the same about Better Call Saul but have absolutely loved that.
It looks like it could be really good. According to what I've heard G.R.R.M. had much more control and input over his world/characters this time around.
I'm looking forward to it although would have preferred something new 100 years or so in the future than the past. The issue with prequels is you already no to an extent where things end up, would have loved to see a new story from this universe going directly to the screen.
That being said, I felt the same about Better Call Saul but have absolutely loved that.
This is a story that's already been finished by grrm. However, its more in a "historical" account form so there's no clear consensus on what actually happened other than obvious things such as clear character deaths, who was where when, who sits on the throne etc. So they have a lot of freedom to fill in on how things happened and character interactions etc. Ryan Condal, the showrunner/writer was asked by George himself after being friends with him for a number of years. Obviously they have changed some things, like character ages etc but Condal seems very intent on telling us George's story rather than a bunch of incoherent bs so that helps.
I've previously said that I think a story that hasn't been expanded much might be better simply from the point of view that people can't complain something isn't canon when there barely is any canon but after reading some of the interviews I can understand why they went with this, also because its the story the author most wanted told and its become clear that he got much more involved again after the criticism season 8 faced.
I'm personally really looking forward to it. I've read so many great reviews from people who watched the first episode, though obviously they couldn't give anything (or much at least) away. But overall the response to the first episode has been overwhelmingly positive. I'm trying not to get too hyped because that can only end in disappointment but I've loved most of what I've seen and hear so far.
For those with the HBO Max app there's some character introduction online for those who are interested (or you can just find them online cause they've been posted already)
this looks pretty cool too.
Looking forward to it as it's a finished story and it visually looks stunning.
GoT had the element of mystery on how it would go which helped with theories, fan videos, etc which made it a phenomenon. This won't have the same level imo but could be a great watch
GoT had the element of mystery on how it would go which helped with theories, fan videos, etc which made it a phenomenon. This won't have the same level imo but could be a great watch
Will this be streamed live on Nowtv ?
Appears so.