No he doesn't. He's scored more goals in his career to date purely on account of having played more games. Hernandez has a better goals per game ratio. Slightly.
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No he doesn't....
Higuain has 107 in 187 and 122 in 266 overall.
Hernandez has 33 in 77 and 50 in 117.
Higuain also assists a lot more
Higuain is more established and proven than Hernandez... he could just about play regularly for anyone not named Barca, Real, Utd. I think Benzema was preferred at Real because he is a more complete, mobile player who is willing to run the channels and complements Ronaldo better.
I would rather have Hernandez in my team because of his style both on and off the pitch, but don't really have a problem admitting Higuain is a better player and more reliable and proven player that teams will want in their side at this point in time.
I would rather have Hernandez in my team because of his style both on and off the pitch, but don't really have a problem admitting Higuain is a better player and more reliable and proven player that teams will want in their side at this point in time.
I was only really concerned with how they did at United/Madrid and Internationally;
In his career at United, Hernandez has scored in all competitions 50 goals in 117 games. A goal every 2.34 games.
Higuain at Real has scored 122 in 266 games, a goal every 2.18 games. (and 46 assists)
Internationally Higuain has 20 goals in 32 (and 9 assists), meaning a goal every 1.6 games.
Hernandez has 35 in 53 meaning a goal every 1.51 games.
Higuain's club form is superior and over a great period of games which makes it more impressive, he also gets more assists which ties in with him being the more rounded, technically superior player, based on current achievement.
In his career at United, Hernandez has scored in all competitions 50 goals in 117 games. A goal every 2.34 games.
Higuain at Real has scored 122 in 266 games, a goal every 2.18 games. (and 46 assists)
Internationally Higuain has 20 goals in 32 (and 9 assists), meaning a goal every 1.6 games.
Hernandez has 35 in 53 meaning a goal every 1.51 games.
Higuain's club form is superior and over a great period of games which makes it more impressive, he also gets more assists which ties in with him being the more rounded, technically superior player, based on current achievement.
Where are you getting these figures from? In all competitions, ie their career goals, the figures are this...
Higuain 137 in 307
Hernandez 114 in 250.
You said he scores a lot more goals, what have assists got to do with that?
Edit: Actually, I missed Higuains international goals off, sorry. That brings his total to 157 in 339. A goal every 2.15 games to Hernandez 2.19. Barely any difference at all.
So skew the figures by leaving out games, thus improving Higuains record against Hernandez? Why not just count their whole career goals? They both played games earlier in their career in their home league, do they not count?
Just want to add that I think the difference between the two is minimal, with Higuain just about shading it. Neither are regulars at their current clubs, but Higuain has been in the European scene longer and has had more periods of regular club football (at Madrid over hte years) than Hernandez has periods of regular football at Utd.
Hernandez has shown a lot of improvement the past season though and next season will be interesting for him. But then Higuain moving to somewhere like Arsenal could see him have an impressive season.
Hernandez has shown a lot of improvement the past season though and next season will be interesting for him. But then Higuain moving to somewhere like Arsenal could see him have an impressive season.
And I'm posting as someone not trying to discredit Higuain at all. I've made my thoughts on him clear, I think he's a very good striker, a good signing for Arsenal and someone who will get them goals. I just think Hernandez is a better striker, and I wouldn't swap them.
I wasn't deliberately skewing them to support my opinion, I just don't think it's fair to compare goals scored in mexican or argentinian leagues. Their performance in european leagues for similarly sized european clubs is a better basis for comparison.
Yep, I agree with everything you've said in this thread except, I think to date, Higuain has done more in European football. Got to a big club quicker and performed better over a longer period, I think he's a different kind of player with more individual ability but less raw instinctual finishing.
I wouldn't swap them either, though it'll be very interesting to see who gets more goals next year.
Swapping Hernandez as your backup striker wouldn't make sense, but I'd much rather have Higuain as our primary striker.
I was comparing goals for big clubs. I said "also" scores more assists, because we're comparing forwards, it matters.
Is it coming to a point that Higuain is signing for Arsenal which means he is not good enough? Not that I am saying either of them was better than the other, they are more or less similar in terms of productiveness, with Higuain having better goal scoring record during say their time at Real together (Benzema scored 55 goals in 124 league games, whereas Higuain scored 75 goals in 112 games) which makes him more effective in front of goals, whereas Benzema has better assist record (26 assists in league against Higuain 19) which shows he has better all round games. But the difference wasn't that obvious as you may have portray. I preferred Benzema too in terms of style but lets not underrrate Higuain that much just because he is signing for Arsenal. He is equally productive if not better.
The funny things is people calling Higuain lazy he works harder than Benzema which is why Benzema's form goes up and down and why he has been on the bench at times this season he has been awful at times this season and games can go by when he provides little. He has been even worst for France. Higuain is a hard worker and he is hungry that is why he scores so much off the bench but Benzema is the better player so Benzema at his best> Higuain at his best but there is a reason he started in Madrid's big games in Europe ahead of Benzema. The Hernandez comparison is odd different players but who would I rather have? Hernandez but that is most likely because he already plays for us Higuain is a more proven player I think he is better than Hernandez.
He is going to score goals in this league where Michu, Lukaku and Ba where among the most prolific strikers and also Arsenal create so many chances for their forward players also. Hernandez is a goalscorer through and through but that is not enough Higuain gives you a similar goal tally while offering more in other areas he is the better player. Hernandez I compare to Inzaghi in that way that he just scores goals he always seems to be in the right position to do so. Higuain is a more well rounded player, works hard and a proven goalscorer. I think he may even improve at Arsenal.
He is going to score goals in this league where Michu, Lukaku and Ba where among the most prolific strikers and also Arsenal create so many chances for their forward players also. Hernandez is a goalscorer through and through but that is not enough Higuain gives you a similar goal tally while offering more in other areas he is the better player. Hernandez I compare to Inzaghi in that way that he just scores goals he always seems to be in the right position to do so. Higuain is a more well rounded player, works hard and a proven goalscorer. I think he may even improve at Arsenal.
^ I wouldn't say Higuain works harder. You can't fault Chicharito's work rate. He moves differently across the pitch but his work rate is very good.
Well that makes more sense
Nothing's done and dusted on this deal yet. Reports emanating that he might choose Italy after all.
Higuain's dad: "Negotiations with Juventus and Arsenal are well advanced." But that it's now up to the clubs to talk to Madrid.
SSN reported that an Arsenal delegation is now in Spain for talks over the player
Benzema is a better player (and striker) than Higuain. I don't know why this even a debate, if you follow Real Madrid for some time: his movement, understanding of the game, and team work. Maybe not much different on every segment, but adding it to overall, it's enough to see the different.
On Higuain vs Chica, I'd take Higuain: his technique is better, and their finishing is about equal. Then the feel is that there's more Higuain can improve in his game, but no so for our Chica. Although Chica is prepared to be 3rd choice, where Higuain isn't, it's a different matter on who's the better.
On Higuain vs Chica, I'd take Higuain: his technique is better, and their finishing is about equal. Then the feel is that there's more Higuain can improve in his game, but no so for our Chica. Although Chica is prepared to be 3rd choice, where Higuain isn't, it's a different matter on who's the better.
If I know anything about our negotiating team, this is a done deal.
and who feels that? For in all honesty Higuain is the finished article, who was only lacking regular games. While Chichito is still learning plenty, despite them being about the same age.
Benzema's the better player but would have been stellar under Wenger, Higuain has been the better finisher.
Is anybody even taking starts into account here? At least half those 77 league appearances have been as a sub. Goals per minute anybody?
I genuinely think that people underestimate Hernandez, and how he would fare as a regular starter. He's good enough that, with our current four strikers, I'm not too scared about one picking up an injury as I'd be happy to see him given a run. If he played a season in front of RVP, Rooney or Kagawa, and our wingers sorted themselves out, I reckon he'd be looking at towards 30 league goals.
You don't.
Clearly. I'm amazed. There's still time to ruin this.There's no way Higuain is a finished article. What Higuain lack of is movement off the ball, and build up play. That can come with playing experience, and better coaching in tactic. What Chica lacks is technique with the ball, which is harder to improve at his age (and supposedly done at much younger age).
But of course, it's not a fact; but just an observation.
Benzema would be a stellar under Wenger and Fergie. You could be right about Higuain the better finisher; but I remember Benzema on his Lyon day was a monster of finisher also.
One of the Spanish football gossip shows (with a good track record on this kind of stuff) said last night that Real Madrid currently favour Arsenal's offer (because it was bigger of course!) and now they're waiting to hear Juventus' response.
Juve have been talking to him for ages though, so who knows.
Juve have been talking to him for ages though, so who knows.
That is why I said earlier that He lacks match practice and it shows in his game. People will be surprised how much better his off the ball movement and hold up play is, than he currently shows, when he finally gets regular football.
An astute observation. It's harder its true. But as Andy Cole showed, under the right coaching it isn't impossible to improve, thankfully.
Fair enough
I like Hernandez and he has the stats which can match any top players in the game bar Messi and Ronaldo. But watching him starting games makes me wonder he is offering nothing much on the pitch when the defenders have game plan to mark him out, and sometimes one would prefer playing Welbeck instead. Hernandez is an excellent impact player who excelled most playing sub role to be you goals IMHO.
His agent saying he's closer to Arsenal now as Juventus cant afford him... Hm
Seems pretty clear that Juve have gone for Tevez . I'd have thought with wages he'll work out more expensive than Pipita (unless City are subsidising them).
Good signing for Arsenal, a clear upgrade on Giroud but not a first tier striker.
He'll score more league goals than vanP next season.
That's cool.