Here's a situation for you

WeasteDevil said:
Yes, I agree, sorry, I was being a little unfair here. There was a brilliant thread on the Beyond3D forum about just this, and the very strange things that go on. Sometimes it was actually hard to believe, but then again, you could never discount it. I'll try to dig it up.
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I haven't been on there in ages, there used to be some good discussions. Although I fell out with a few people last time, because I used to insist making games wasn't anywhere nearly as hard or as people intensive as anal f**kers make it!

Program structure? Screw that, I work fast :wenger:



Never heard of it, shall look it up, is it an emulator? ;)
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Look it up, it will suit you. Although I hope they use a faster than the era processor so I don't have to mess around with assembler! (although it would have to roughly be 20x the speed of a spectrum 128k to use anything other...)


As for the toolsets, I think that it's much better for the PS3 than it ever was for the PS2. You can hit RSX with OpenGL, or (I think here) you can hit it through something called ICE (developed by Naughty Dog) which is the much more down to the metal knuckle way of doing it. I think ICE however is for the 1st party studios only. They have a thing called EDGE, available to all licenced developers, which does the Cell polygon culling stuff etc. There is a podcast somewhere from Criterion saying that the Sony tools are much less familiar than the Microsoft ones (VS basically), and that they had to force their programmers to use the PS3 tools first. This is the same with any software however in whatever industry, people don't like or are uncomfortable with things that are not familiar - it's one of the major headaches in IT in general. Criterion then go on to say however, that the tools are not of lesser quality. I can imagine the IBM SDK however.
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ICE is interesting, but again, not ideal. What companies should do is hire someone like me who hates graphic programming (I'm a 100% gameplay guy, which is why I'm always so critical with games) to sit there and work out the kinks, because damn sure we'd do it fast!

Seriously though, I see nothing in the architecture that suggests the PS3 should be any harder to work with than any other computer ever invented, it's just people are so used to working orthodox with PC's and the like that they just don't understand to have to work outside the bubble with new systems. I blame the grads who are taught all this .net bollocks and don't know anything real about how computers actually work or anything other than spoon fed higher-level languages. /rant

Phew, now I remember why I no longer work in the industry, high blood pressure alert!
 
By the way, whats the graphical difference when playing the 360/ps3 on a standard tv instead of on a hdtv? Is the difference significant? Will the graphics still look really good on a standard tv?
 
Ok! What you have to remember here is that taking pictures of CRTs is not that simple without taking forever. For example, if I give the camera a high shutter speed, this happens:

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So, I have to either fanny around trying to get the camera and the TV to sync, or I slow down the shutter speed so it takes more than one frame, which is what I have done. It does however cause blurring, especially when not using the flash which would flood the screen in any case.

However, more Heavenly Sword:

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Rachet & Clank:

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GTHD Tech Demo:

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Yes, not every screenshot is actually "in-game" as that would have taken too long and a little difficult to do on my own (playing and taking photos at the same time), but every shot there is generated in real-time by the game engines, there is no video.
 
I'd say PS3 personally. I have both, and at the moment i play my 360 alot more (only because much more games for it), but there's so much to look forward to for the PS3, where as all i'm really looking forward to for 360 is Fable 2 and maybe Gears of War 2.

I also getting random crashes and stupid errors with the 360 now and again, nothing major, but the PS3 just seems 100% efficient. And as i said in another thread, this is the reason i was willing to pay and extra £10 for the PS3 version of Devil May Cry 4, and probably will continue to do with other multi platform games.

It's also a bonus that i didn't even pay for my PS3.
 
save your money and purchase the ATARI 2600
sure, the graphics arnt as good as these new "Xbox" and "playstations" but they still provide hours of entertainment at a fraction of the price...
 
Just an update for you guys. I did it, I have bought my Playstation 3! And I have to say its just fantastic. It looks sleek, runs very smooth and quiet and the graphics are really good despite myself playing on a standard tv instead of a hd one. I also bought the PES 2008 game, and have been slightly disappointed by the game. Probably expected more from PES. The PS3 is just fantastic though.

Thanks to all in this thread who helped with my decision making. :D
 
Freak said:
Just an update for you guys. I did it, I have bought my Playstation 3! And I have to say its just fantastic. It looks sleek, runs very smooth and quiet and the graphics are really good despite myself playing on a standard tv instead of a hd one. I also bought the PES 2008 game, and have been slightly disappointed by the game. Probably expected more from PES. The PS3 is just fantastic though.

Thanks to all in this thread who helped with my decision making. :D
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You've made a wise choice, had you opted for the 360, you would have felt the wrath of Weaste
 
:lol: What really swayed my decision early on was the RROD Problems in the 360. I really didn't want to be paying 500-600 for a console that would give up on me within a year or two, despite the extended warranty by MS. I wanted something that would last me 5 years at least and the PS3 offers that.
 
Freak said:
:lol: What really swayed my decision early on was the RROD Problems in the 360. I really didn't want to be paying 500-600 for a console that would give up on me within a year or two, despite the extended warranty by MS. I wanted something that would last me 5 years at least and the PS3 offers that.
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Agreed.

You should get COD4 and get hooked up online, you won't regret it!
 
Maybe I will. For now I'm enjoying getting back to console gaming after a long long time. My previous Xbox had been collecting dust for 6-7 months now as fecking Microsoft stopped making games for the Xbox.
 
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