'He used United to get a new contract'

[Fully Fledged]

People are just dumb. There is on way Ramos has "used us". Who risks losing support from their home fans just to get a rumor like that going. Ramos genuinely wanted to join us - it was a possibility for him. Just because it didn't turn out to be good for us, we can't be saying he used us.

EDIT: It's not like he promised us anything. If anything, we got the better of Madrid having to fight for their best defender (if we keep De Gea this season as well)

Rooney twice.

 

[Loublaze]

Where did this notion come from and How often does this actually happen?

I had time to kill so I thought I should look at the recent transfer sagas in this forum - I ordered the transfer threads by number of replies and picked the top 20.

Player name - Year and page hits - Saga conclusion. ​

1. Vidal - 2014 647 pages - No new contract, left the following summer.
2. Berbatov - 2008 485 pages - No new contract, signed for United.
3. Wesley Sneijder - 2011 342 pages - No new contract, Left Inter about a year later.
4. Cesc Fabregas - 2013 300 Pages - No new contract, Left a season after.
5. Ander Herrera - 2013 243 pages - No new contract, Signed a year later.
6. Eden Hazard - 2012 222 pages - No new contract, signed for Chelsea.
7. Mata - 2014 203 pages - No new contract, Signed for United.
8. Luke Shaw - 2014 174 pages - No new contract, Signed for United.
9. Fellaini - 2013 164 pages - No new contract, Signed for United.
10. RVP - 2012 161 pages - No new contract, signed for United.
11. Morgan Schneiderlin - 2015 160 pages - No new Contract, signed for United.
12. Toni Kroos - 2014 141 pages - No new contract, left for Madrid.
13. Sergio Ramos - 2015 139 pages - TBD
14. Nasri - 2011 137 pages - No new contract, signed for City.
15. Benzema - 2010 123 pages - No new contract, signed for Madrid.
16. Alexis Sanchez - 2011 123 pages - No new contract, signed for Barcelona.
17. Lucas Da Silva - 2012 123 pages - No new contract, signed for PSG.
18. Bale - 2013 101 pages - No new contract, signed for Madrid.
19. Depay - 2015 95 pages - No new Contract, signed for United.
20. Falcao - 2014 92 pages - No new Contract, signed for United.

So there you have it. in the top 20 transfer 'Sagas' in here, Ramos will be the first one to actually have a U-Turn and sign a contract extension. We signed 9/20 players involved in these Sagas.

Can we stop saying players are using us for contracts now?

You wasted your time. No one is saying all players use United to get new contracts, its only been a few top players from La Liga that we've been linked to. Alves, Ronaldo, Ramos etc.

 

[RedStarUnited]

You wasted your time. No one is saying all players use United to get new contracts, its only been a few top players from La Liga that we've been linked to. Alves, Ronaldo, Ramos etc.

Well you are wrong. If you read this forum and the replies you would know every time a top player is linked to us, the 'haha he just wants a new contract' comes up. I got tired of hearing it so I wanted to see how many times it actually happened.

Guys, Cristiano didn't have to use us for a contract, if he was truly available a number of teams would bend over backwards to get him. You think PSG/City wouldn't be able to clear enough funds to get him? A salary shootout makes more sense for increase than just declaring he wants United. Alves - Barca never wanted him to go, he was one of their best players last season and they have a transfer ban. they signed a RB now and he will probably go next summer.

 

[Loublaze]

Well you are wrong. If you read this forum and the replies you would know every time a top player is linked to us, the 'haha he just wants a new contract' comes up. I got tired of hearing it so I wanted to see how many times it actually happened.

Guys, Cristiano didn't have to use us for a contract, if he was truly available a number of teams would bend over backwards to get him. You think PSG/City wouldn't be able to clear enough funds to get him? A salary shootout makes more sense for increase than just declaring he wants United. Alves - Barca never wanted him to go, he was one of their best players last season and they have a transfer ban. they signed a RB now and he will probably go next summer.

I think you're simply turning a blind eye to the things Ronaldo and Alves did in the midst of rumors about United interest before they signed the dotted line at their respective clubs. Both of them were never truly available but the links to United pushed things forward with their contract extensions. Robbie Savage admitted in an article that these sorts of things happen in football all the time.

Some players have friends in the media and make use of those contacts to get the move they want. I've called newspaper reporters I was close to and asked them to link me with this team or that team, even when I knew it wasn't true.


It helped get my name out there and flush out possible interest. It's harder to do that nowadays because the media often know what's true or not, but I called people I knew a few times and got them to make up a story.


You have to be realistic, of course. There was no point linking myself with Real Madrid because everybody would know that would be a lie!

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