Hasslebank to replace Forlan?

[sin65]

Theres no inadvertant about it,Diego is the kind of Utd player who is taken to heart by this club.He isn`t a striker hes a forward which means he moves into good positions and has chances on goal much like Giggsy.At the moment he isn`t getting enough games to make his mark but hes 22 with plenty of skill so give him time.

All the fans I know who go to Old Trafford seem to have taken to Diego whereas the ones who watch on tv are less keen?

 

[Murt]

Originally posted by sin65:
<strong>
All the fans I know who go to Old Trafford seem to have taken to Diego whereas the ones who watch on tv are less keen?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ive noticed this also, i dont go to OT but ive still taken to him and i really hope he succeeds. The majority of ppl who "hate" him (and i mean literally) seem to come from far off.

 

[michael owen's mum]

Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>
The majority of ppl who "hate" him (and i mean literally) seem to come from far off.</strong><hr></blockquote>


the people of middlesbrough really appreciated your signing him i'm told. . .

 

[Julian Denny]

Originally posted by sin65:
<strong>Theres no inadvertant about it,Diego is the kind of Utd player who is taken to heart by this club.He isn`t a striker hes a forward which means he moves into good positions and has chances on goal much like Giggsy.At the moment he isn`t getting enough games to make his mark but hes 22 with plenty of skill so give him time.

All the fans I know who go to Old Trafford seem to have taken to Diego whereas the ones who watch on tv are less keen?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Of course that's utter nonsense as you get far greater close up and analyses of players' performances on the TV than at the ground. However, for what it's worth, I was at OT two weeks ago and I still don't think much of Diego !!!

 

[Ever hopefull]

Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>I'm not claiming that Heskey had a poor run in front of goal last year...he did, there is no getting round it. However, he delivered over 20 goals in his first full season, and recovered well from his dry patch towards the end of last season.

He also currently has 3 goals ( and 4 assists) this season, despite only starting one game up front..

The point being that Heskey can score goals at this level...Forlan has yet to prove he can - and considering your rating of Heskey was always aimed at his goals record, your must surely consider Forlan to be crap, unless he can prove otherwise..

Which I'm sure you'll all think he can and will...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Heskey's good at falling over

 

[spinoza]

Originally posted by sin65:
<strong>Theres no inadvertant about it,Diego is the kind of Utd player who is taken to heart by this club.He isn`t a striker hes a forward which means he moves into good positions and has chances on goal much like Giggsy.At the moment he isn`t getting enough games to make his mark but hes 22 with plenty of skill so give him time.

All the fans I know who go to Old Trafford seem to have taken to Diego whereas the ones who watch on tv are less keen?</strong><hr></blockquote>

True enough on both points. Match goers love tryers, which is why Diego gets so much support.

Comparing him with Heskey though, Davo and mum have it right. Heskey's got the goals. Admittedly he had shit periods, but he's got more than one goal.

Though I wouldn't trade Diego for Heskey, and here's why. I can't stand Heskey's on field sulking. Whenever asked to play left wing for England, he goes out there and buggers around doing fcuk all. He can play on the wing, he just doesn't want to and he wastes a valuable player spot.

Same thing happens when he's playing out of position for Liverpool. How many times have we seen him get in a good position out on the flank then turn away and allow the defender to get back?

Our Diego on the other hand... let him get out there and he plays. Not as well, maybe, but I'll excuse him since he's young. He's got a future with that attitude.

 

[spinoza]

I wouldn't trade Forlan for Hasselbank either. Forlan's 22. Hasselbank is 29 or 30. Go figure. Gudjohnsen... I say buy him and keep Forlan. We need 4 strikers.

 

[Waz]

Forlan:Thumbs up(so far)

 

[veg]

Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>Has everyone forgotten we need an additional striker not a Forlan replacement?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Know we fecking haven't, We do need another striker and a class one!

 

[ryansgirl]

I would not want Jimmy Floyd Piggybank at Manchester United even if he was offered free. He is a selfish bastard and plays for himself, contributing little to teamwork.

I don`t share other posters` optimism about Diego - despite the tantrums of posters such as kinkymelinky who confuse a critique giving reasons for one`s opinion, with slag jobs. But that`s the joy of this board - you get all kind of posters including those who would not recognise a reasonable opinion if they fell over it.

I do think Diego is a teamworker and would far prefer him anyday to others who don`t pull their weight. But at this point in time he is not first team standard and should have a run in the reserves.

United has paid too much in the past for players who were not up to it and unfortunately I feel Diego is going to go down in history as that kind of player. But when he is in the team he does the work, unlike Piggybank.

 

[lchk]

Originally posted by Julian Denny:
<strong>

Are you inadvertedly defending the decision to sign Forlan ? For me it remains a big mistake with insufficient research done on him and how he would fit into United's squad prior to his signing. Yes he's had many only brief appearances as sub but there have also been times when he's been on the pitch longer. Overall he's had plenty of opportunity to show what he can do. Apart from Charlton last year and the penalty he doesn't look like scoring. His basic technique is all wrong. Now I see people are saying he's really a winger or a midfielder and shouldn't be expected to score that many. Why was he then bought as a replacement for Cole ? He may be a trier and consequently popular with the OT crowd but the evidence says he's not up to scratch as a United player. Comparing his non scoring lack of achievment with that of Heskey (at times) is a pointless exercise as the latter, from United's perspective, would not be up to scratch either. Diego should be put in the reserves permanently until he can demonstrate regularly what he actually can do well. Unfortunately judging by all accounts so far his reserve appearances have not been that distinguished either. All rather sad.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree. Forlan may be a quality player but there are some players (eg poborsky) who has ability but just don't settle down at OT too well.

I believe forlan is one of those players.

 

[lchk]

Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>I'm not claiming that Heskey had a poor run in front of goal last year...he did, there is no getting round it. However, he delivered over 20 goals in his first full season, and recovered well from his dry patch towards the end of last season.

He also currently has 3 goals ( and 4 assists) this season, despite only starting one game up front..

The point being that Heskey can score goals at this level...Forlan has yet to prove he can - and considering your rating of Heskey was always aimed at his goals record, your must surely consider Forlan to be crap, unless he can prove otherwise..

Which I'm sure you'll all think he can and will...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Despite my occasional mickey-taking of old donkey, I actually believe he's done quite a lot for pool as he does his bit in drawing defenders away to provide more space for his strike partner and uses his physique and aerial ability quite well in making a nuisance of himself.

 

[lchk]

Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>Face it Davo, Heskey has no excuses for not scoring enough goals other than thew fact that hes useless. Forlan has circumstances, ie moving abroad, new league, language, climate but most of all, playing very few full games. How much has Forlan played this season, 1 start, maybe 200 minutes? Compared to Heskey's 8 or 9 starts?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Heskey is useless? explain please

 

[spinoza]

Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>

I agree. Forlan may be a quality player but there are some players (eg poborsky) who has ability but just don't settle down at OT too well.

I believe forlan is one of those players.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Settling at Old Trafford is a matter of quite a few things, among which are attitude, ability to speak English and family.

As I recall, Poborsky couldn't be bothered to work for the ball, spoke two words of English when he arrived and about 5 when he left, and left his family in Prague.

Diego in contrast, works like crazy on the pitch and by all accounts even harder in training, spoke 2 words of English when he came and now gives interviews on ITV, and has his family almost always around (according to fan mags). I'm sure he'll do better than Poborsky. I worry about Veron though. Still no habla ingles from the Argie.

 

[CremboMan]

Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>
I worry about Veron though. Still no habla ingles from the Argie.</strong><hr></blockquote>

El habla football...

 

[Wibble]

Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>

Heskey is useless? explain please</strong><hr></blockquote>

I should have thought that it was obvious to all non (red) scousers.

 

[Canadian Dee]

Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
<strong>Never want Piggybank to pull on the United Jersey. If you were offering Gudjohnsen then i'd probably take it</strong><hr></blockquote>

Can you please explain your distaste for Hasslebaink, his record for any club he has played at is top class. The fact that he and RVN will also be international partners only means their partnership will blossom. Don't give me this bollocks about him being a moody person who is not a team player- that is bollocks. Cantona was moody, Keano was moody, Schemical often had huge on field rows with defenders. The three mentioned "moody" players didn't do have bad, did they? We are not in the business of just buying nice people, we want success, and if that means we employ players who are not saints, then so be it.

 

[Kevin]

Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
<strong>The fact that he and RVN will also be international partners only means their partnership will blossom.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Kluivert is still no.1 choice in Holland seeing his terrific record in international games and RvN is his partner. Hasselbaink will not be partnering RvN unless Kluivert gets subbed in a game (unlikely, all the previous games with Kluivert and RvN playing saw RvN being subbed) or is injured.

 

[no.7]

tell me this and tell me no more , who the feck are MANYOO ? come on mate its united or man united <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

 

[veg]

Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>
I stand corrected, it was 20 games without a goal:
Date Competition HomeTeam Score AwayTeam Goals Scored
05-09-2001 World Cup England 2-0 Albania 0
08-09-2001 English Premier Liverpool 1-3 Aston Villa 0
11-09-2001 European Cup Liverpool 1-1 Boavista 0
15-09-2001 English Premier Everton 1-3 Liverpool 0
19-09-2001 European Cup B. Dortmund 0-0 Liverpool 0
22-09-2001 English Premier Liverpool 1-0 Tottenham 0
26-09-2001 European Cup Liverpool 1-0 Dynamo Kiev 0
30-09-2001 English Premier Newcastle 0-2 Liverpool 0
06-10-2001 World Cup England 2-2 Greece 0
09-10-2001 English League Cup Liverpool 1-2 Grimsby 0
13-10-2001 English Premier Liverpool 1-1 Leeds 0
16-10-2001 European Cup Dynamo Kiev 1-2 Liverpool 0
20-10-2001 English Premier Leicester 1-4 Liverpool 0
24-10-2001 European Cup Boavista 1-1 Liverpool 0
27-10-2001 English Premier Charlton 0-2 Liverpool 0
30-10-2001 European Cup Liverpool 2-0 B. Dortmund 0
04-11-2001 English Premier Liverpool 3-1 Man Utd 0
10-11-2001 International England 1-1 Sweden 0
17-11-2001 English Premier Blackburn 1-1 Liverpool 0
20-11-2001 European Cup Liverpool 1-3 Barcelona 0

and add another 14 games without scoring a goal after that makes 1 goal scored in 35 games. And most of those he started and played full games.

01-12-2001 English Premier Derby 0-1 Liverpool 0
05-12-2001 European Cup Roma 0-0 Liverpool 0
08-12-2001 English Premier Liverpool 2-0 Middlesbro 0
12-12-2001 English Premier Liverpool 0-0 Fulham 0
16-12-2001 English Premier Chelsea 4-0 Liverpool 0
23-12-2001 English Premier Liverpool 1-2 Arsenal 0
29-12-2001 English Premier West Ham 1-1 Liverpool 0
01-01-2002 English Premier Liverpool 1-1 Bolton 0
05-01-2002 English FA Cup Liverpool 3-0 Birmingham 0
09-01-2002 English Premier Southampton 2-0 Liverpool 0
13-01-2002 English Premier Arsenal 1-1 Liverpool 0
19-01-2002 English Premier Liverpool 1-1 Southampton 0
22-01-2002 English Premier Man Utd 0-1 Liverpool 0
27-01-2002 English FA Cup Arsenal 1-0 Liverpool 0

Admittedly this includes the England games, but my point was that he was shit in those too. Either way, far far worse than Forlan's barren run, in a new country, at a young age.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

 

[Murt]

Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>Heskey is useless? explain please</strong><hr></blockquote>

common knowledge round here for starters <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> .
Played 387 games for England senior, u21 Liverpool & Leicester and scored 90 goals which is an average of 1 in 4.
But most of all the fact that he falls over othe ball continuously and has the close controll of donkey. Hes the finished product, he knows the league inside out and hes not going to get a lot better.
Do you think Heskey is a great player? Do you wish we had him instead of Forlan?

 

[Murt]

Originally posted by Wibble:
<strong>I should have thought that it was obvious to all non (red) scousers.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Youd think, wouldnt you

 

[spinoza]

Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
<strong>

Can you please explain your distaste for Hasslebaink, his record for any club he has played at is top class. The fact that he and RVN will also be international partners only means their partnership will blossom. Don't give me this bollocks about him being a moody person who is not a team player- that is bollocks. Cantona was moody, Keano was moody, Schemical often had huge on field rows with defenders. The three mentioned "moody" players didn't do have bad, did they? We are not in the business of just buying nice people, we want success, and if that means we employ players who are not saints, then so be it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The whole point under discussion is hasselbank's attitude to playing on the field. I suggest you go back and read the posts.

In any case, Hasselbank is a mainly a penalty box predator who also happens to have a pretty decent long range shot. We have those, they go by the names of Ruud, Ole, and Becks.

He isn't a link striker or a tricky chap who creates openings for others. Even worse, he shows no signs of wanting to. At least Ruud, Ole and Diego try hard to create the opportunities for one another.

He's also 29. I wouldn't like us to be a team of geriatrics.

 

[ryansgirl]

Tsk, tsk, Manchester United fans having the audacity to criticise Heskey on their own forum. Isn`t it about time Heskey is given the credit he deserves?

I have never seen a footballer better at falling over his own clodhoppers and then claiming a free kick or penalty. Or bustling around, falling over his own clodhoppers and then claiming a free kick or penalty. Heskey is the ultimate positive footballer.

 

[lchk]

Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>

Settling at Old Trafford is a matter of quite a few things, among which are attitude, ability to speak English and family.

As I recall, Poborsky couldn't be bothered to work for the ball, spoke two words of English when he arrived and about 5 when he left, and left his family in Prague.

Diego in contrast, works like crazy on the pitch and by all accounts even harder in training, spoke 2 words of English when he came and now gives interviews on ITV, and has his family almost always around (according to fan mags). I'm sure he'll do better than Poborsky. I worry about Veron though. Still no habla ingles from the Argie.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Veron? His performances have improved markedly on the pitch - that's all that matters.

Forlan? He's not even doing well in the reserves (by some accounts) so what makes you think he'll fit in? despite all this english proficiency etc

 

[lchk]

Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
<strong>

Can you please explain your distaste for Hasslebaink, his record for any club he has played at is top class. The fact that he and RVN will also be international partners only means their partnership will blossom. Don't give me this bollocks about him being a moody person who is not a team player- that is bollocks. Cantona was moody, Keano was moody, Schemical often had huge on field rows with defenders. The three mentioned "moody" players didn't do have bad, did they? We are not in the business of just buying nice people, we want success, and if that means we employ players who are not saints, then so be it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The fact that some folks would actually turn down an excellent striker like hasselbaink and approve of forlan's selection in the first team just amazes me......utterly blinkered

 

[lchk]

Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>

common knowledge round here for starters <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> .
Played 387 games for England senior, u21 Liverpool & Leicester and scored 90 goals which is an average of 1 in 4.
But most of all the fact that he falls over othe ball continuously and has the close controll of donkey. Hes the finished product, he knows the league inside out and hes not going to get a lot better.
Do you think Heskey is a great player? Do you wish we had him instead of Forlan?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Falls over continuously? You are just cherry picking here are you? Have you been watching him this season? Look at the way he draws defenders out and his physical presence in the box and not to mention he's actually scored some good goals.

And what's this about old donkey been the finished product? He's 24 only a year older than forlan so if he's finished, what about forlan?

In reply to your last question, I would want neither at OT, I would prefer a pacey striker in the mould of henry.

 

[Wibble]

Originally posted by giggsgirl:
<strong>Tsk, tsk, Manchester United fans having the audacity to criticise Heskey on their own forum. Isn`t it about time Heskey is given the credit he deserves?
</strong><hr></blockquote>

We do. We call him donkey don't we

 

[spinoza]

Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>

Veron? His performances have improved markedly on the pitch - that's all that matters.

Forlan? He's not even doing well in the reserves (by some accounts) so what makes you think he'll fit in? despite all this english proficiency etc</strong><hr></blockquote>

Admittedly I've only seen one reserve game this season but I thought Forlan did quite well.No goals (so what's new) but with the positioning sense he has it can't be long All that snatching at shots is probably due to lack of confidence (I hope anyway).

He's had less time than Veron has had, and if we gave one of the game's great playmakers a season and more to prove himself, we should at least extend the same to a kid who travelled half the world to play for United. He's done everything that could be asked of him off the pitch and most of what could be asked of him on the pitch.

As for Hasselbaink, he may be a proven striker, but he's in the mold of Ole and Ruud. We don't need a 29 year old to do that. What we need is a link striker.

 

[Canadian Dee]

Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>

The whole point under discussion is hasselbank's attitude to playing on the field. I suggest you go back and read the posts.

In any case, Hasselbank is a mainly a penalty box predator who also happens to have a pretty decent long range shot. We have those, they go by the names of Ruud, Ole, and Becks.

He isn't a link striker or a tricky chap who creates openings for others. Even worse, he shows no signs of wanting to. At least Ruud, Ole and Diego try hard to create the opportunities for one another.

He's also 29. I wouldn't like us to be a team of geriatrics. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Bollocks

 

[spinoza]

And why? Been struck dumb have you? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

 

[Murt]

Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>I would want neither at OT, I would prefer a pacey striker in the mould of henry.</strong><hr></blockquote>


your not asking fo rmuch are you
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

So you think Heskey is a good player <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

 

[Kinky Melinky]

Originally posted by veg:
<strong>

Well said i agree with all u said then, i think if yorke an cole had played the same games they'd b near the top scorers in both this seasons champs league and prem and United might not of had the critisism they've had over recent weeks??

<img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>


Veg you feckin twat would you ever piss off and stop talking out your arse. If you count the minutes he's played for United and divide by 90 you will probably get in and around 8. So Forlan has played 8 games for United and has scored once. Most of those appearances were when United had beaten a team and were running down the clock. This means the providers for the front men are less urgent, only thinking about attack every so often - yet even in these situation Forlan has created chances for himself. Olympiakos is a prime example of this.

So why don't you take your little self, with your rash misinformed attitude and support another team. I swear it's a shame people like you support United. You're a bloody embarassement.

 

[Murt]

Originally posted by Kinky Melinky:
<strong>So why don't you take your little self, with your rash misinformed attitude and support another team. I swear it's a shame people like you support United. You're a bloody embarassement.</strong><hr></blockquote>

my sentiments entirely, including several others.

 

[Ever hopefull]

Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
<strong>

Can you please explain your distaste for Hasslebaink, his record for any club he has played at is top class. The fact that he and RVN will also be international partners only means their partnership will blossom. Don't give me this bollocks about him being a moody person who is not a team player- that is bollocks. Cantona was moody, Keano was moody, Schemical often had huge on field rows with defenders. The three mentioned "moody" players didn't do have bad, did they? We are not in the business of just buying nice people, we want success, and if that means we employ players who are not saints, then so be it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The reason i don't want to see Piggybank at Old Trafford is simple. He's lazy. If the game isn't going his way he's not interested. You saw it against us earlier in the season and against Viking on Thursday.
Eric and Keano may be moody but you can never question their work rates.
Not being a saint doesn't bother me, as long as he is willing to fight for the cause. Piggybank isn't.

 

[lchk]

Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>

Admittedly I've only seen one reserve game this season but I thought Forlan did quite well.No goals (so what's new) but with the positioning sense he has it can't be long All that snatching at shots is probably due to lack of confidence (I hope anyway).

He's had less time than Veron has had, and if we gave one of the game's great playmakers a season and more to prove himself, we should at least extend the same to a kid who travelled half the world to play for United. He's done everything that could be asked of him off the pitch and most of what could be asked of him on the pitch.

As for Hasselbaink, he may be a proven striker, but he's in the mold of Ole and Ruud. We don't need a 29 year old to do that. What we need is a link striker.</strong><hr></blockquote>

On the contrary, Forlan has actually backslided from his progress last season when he actually had a few good shots at goal. He hardly even gets into scoring positions nowadays, let alone have a few cracks at goals - all he does in drift in midfield and on the wings where he shouldn't be in the first place.

If forlan is touted to be our next link striker, god help us....

 

[lchk]

Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>


your not asking fo rmuch are you
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

So you think Heskey is a good player <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Actually old donkey is a good player.

Better than forlan that's for sure.

and you have done nothing to refute that point besides laugh.

Shows what kind of a footballing brain you have.

 

[Bury Red]

It's not just Haisselbank's laziness that leads many into saying they would not want to see him at OT. The laziness is actually just a symptom of the main problem, he is not a team player, he never has been and never will be as he is only interested in his own image and his fat pay cheque. Hard as it is to admit it, I actually felt sorry for the Leeds fans when JFH shat on them. Sure Schmikes, Eric and Keano (and Fergie too) are larger than life characters who quite often grate with the media but you could never question their commitment to United both on and off the field, the antithesis of Haisselbank.

As for Forlan, he is young enough and talented enough to make it at OT. Lay off and give him a chance to show that Fergie's faith is not misplaced, the chinese whispers that lead to him being slagged off repeatedly around here really begin to grate after a while.

Julian Denny reports from South Africa that "Unfortunately judging by all accounts so far his reserve appearances have not been that distinguished either. All rather sad." which suggests he has a far better crystal ball than I have here in HK as I just don't seem to get the reserve games on mine and the only press reports on training I have seen are lavish in their praise for his ability to score from anywhere with both feet (attributed to both Fergie and Choccy at various stages this season). Then Itchy comes back quoting "Forlan? He's not even doing well in the reserves (by some accounts) so what makes you think he'll fit in? despite all this english proficiency etc", would these accounts be Mr Denny's account by any chance or do ESPN and Starsports broadcast the training matches in Malaysia but not HK?

If someone suggests a transfer is in the offing and they are in the know, the calls for sources and references reverberate over the next 20 posts. I suggest the same burden of proof should be applied to those whinging about players performances which they could not realistically have seen.

You cannot make Forlan a scapegoat for the teams profligacy up front this season as he has been there for far less playing time (and in staccato bursts at the end of games) than the similarly unscoring Ruud and Ole, things are beginning to take shape now and I believe we will see the best of Diego sooner rather than later, just give him a chance you whinging "informed" <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> cnuts.

Unless of course this is all one big conspiracy by the PLC to sign a scapegoat someone who noone has ever seen play before, get old Steve up at Boro to feign interest just to allay suspicion and Robert's your father's brother, we can lift all the criticism from JSV and the Nevilles. Hell even Itchy has changed his tune over Veron now and we have gone weeks without a "The Nevilles aren't up to it" thread.

 

[ah_new]

Why don't we lets Forlan plays as a centre forward? I think that is more suitable for him!
His position is just like Ronaldinho's place in Brasil.
I think Forlan's style has a litte bit like our legend -- Eric Cantona. Do you argee with me?

 

[lchk]

Originally posted by Bury Red:
<strong> Then Itchy comes back quoting "Forlan? He's not even doing well in the reserves (by some accounts) so what makes you think he'll fit in? despite all this english proficiency etc", would these accounts be Mr Denny's account by any chance or do ESPN and Starsports broadcast the training matches in Malaysia but not HK?

Hell even Itchy has changed his tune over Veron now and we have gone weeks without a "The Nevilles aren't up to it" thread. </strong><hr></blockquote>

These "accounts" of forlan's performances for the reserves were shared with me by several fans who watches the reserve games which is why I qualified it with "by some accounts". Don't falsely accuse me of making a baseless statement.

I never talked that much about veron anyway so please drag me into it

BTW, have you plucked up the courage to sample any durians yet?