I guess being in a lecture hall all day every day meant you had less opportunity to interact with potentially offensive students in the Uni bar. Which must have been quite a relief as well.
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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This is true. Although we were reliant on those shady types for our supply of weed.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/29/uea-student-union-bans-racist-sombreros
I actually went there as an undergrad and the student union is one of the dumbest unions going which is impressive.
My favourite things that happened was the 'diversity officer' (read militant feminist) actually crying when her idea to ban 'Blurred Lines' was put to a referendum rather than dictated to students and the other was when they banned RBS for some reason, forgot they'd done it and then allowed a Natwest branch to open, then remembered but wanted to show the six nations in the bar so hastily passed a resolution to un-ban it.
I actually went there as an undergrad and the student union is one of the dumbest unions going which is impressive.
My favourite things that happened was the 'diversity officer' (read militant feminist) actually crying when her idea to ban 'Blurred Lines' was put to a referendum rather than dictated to students and the other was when they banned RBS for some reason, forgot they'd done it and then allowed a Natwest branch to open, then remembered but wanted to show the six nations in the bar so hastily passed a resolution to un-ban it.
Heard they can sell tacos, but they just can't look like tacos.
http://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/03/...audi-arabia-what-happens-now-concerns-us-all/
This is one of the more frightening instances of silencing in this thread.
The Left needs more like her -- this is the logical stance for any leftist. But identity politics has overtaken (and been embraced by) the traditional anti-religious left.
This is one of the more frightening instances of silencing in this thread.
The Left needs more like her -- this is the logical stance for any leftist. But identity politics has overtaken (and been embraced by) the traditional anti-religious left.
I get some of the complaints about but people in here are acting as if this is some massive strain on lecturers. All they have to do is say during the lecture 'this section includes some rape' etc. most people wouldn't leave, it's just a little warning for people. The stuff where someone is advising a trigger warning for ridiculous things like a mouldy sock or whatever bollocks is more likely to be some middle management idiot rather than a student.
This has been an issue for quite some time now with the 'liberals'. Its i not just limited to the west either.
In fairness the biggest liberal of them all in the UK asked the PM to stand up to Saudi Arabia.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...pm-saudi-arabia-over-teenager-execution-video
Standing up to Saudi Arabia isn't really a left/right issue. It's more of a case of an economic one. Cameron for example is never going to stand up to the largest military importer in the world particularly when we recently just had an arms fair.
I do agree Liberals need to be less worried about being offensive than de-valuing basic human rights. Just in the case of Saudi Arabia, everyone is for standing up to them just not when money is involved.
I saw that and thought of posting that in the Corbyn thread but I could predict the responses (waste of time, not a real issue) so decided against.
This is what student unions should be about. Ban racist crisps. Marches to support gay whales against the bomb. And cheap beer. Great fun that actually teaches young people that it is ok to have discenting ideas.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-killallwhitemen-tweet?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
So being "grossly offensive on social media" is actually a criminal offence now? When did that happen?
So being "grossly offensive on social media" is actually a criminal offence now? When did that happen?
Britain jail twats on internet for some time now. Muamba case was one of the more notable ones.
One thing we'll always admire America.
One thing we'll always admire America.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...tolerance-of-student-activism-at-yale/414810/
http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/20...ised-their-right-to-be-treated-like-children/
I'd tried to quote the articles but they're too long.
The basic gist is that an email was sent encouraging students not to be offended by halloween costumes that appropriate different cultures. It encouraged dialogue with people who dressed that way in order to discuss issues etc. It's led to a bit of a mini shit storm.
http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/20...ised-their-right-to-be-treated-like-children/
I'd tried to quote the articles but they're too long.
The basic gist is that an email was sent encouraging students not to be offended by halloween costumes that appropriate different cultures. It encouraged dialogue with people who dressed that way in order to discuss issues etc. It's led to a bit of a mini shit storm.
Censorship at universities is omnipresent. The students are behaving laughably bad. Nothing wrong with the email at all, it deserves to be lauded. The girl who abuses the professor should probably be up on academic prohibition -- it's abuse.
Thought someone had brought up the Starbucks red cup nonsense when this thread was bumped.
Did you also catch this item in the mess going on at the University of Missouri? http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/20...setting-an-example-for-the-rest-of-us/415074/
I'm only 27 and have finally started to feel old. Old in the sense that there's finally a group younger than me that I don't understand, that somehow have gone through much of what I went trough just 5-10 years ago and have come out of it seemingly completely different.
Where did they get this notion that people need to be so coddled or protected? What was taught to them different than was taught to me? Whenever it happened that someone presented me the notion that no one is smart enough or moral enough to decide what can and cannot be said, and therefore free speech of others must always be tolerated to protect your own, I think I probably thought "that's pretty logical". And to this day I still see no other way.
They're subverting academia and intelectuality itself. Universities are the best space to state the seemingly absurd, so that the absurd gets tested, criticized, defended. If the absurd comes out on top, then its not so absurd after all and human knowledge has advanced.
I feel worried for them and us in the long run if this doesn't cut down. Being able to dispassionately argue ideas is the foundation of pretty much all human progress.
It has gone mad, all of the sitcoms and mini series i happened to watch must consists of gay/black/interracial relationship/interracial gay sex/ and all sort of PC
It's very common for every movies to have this as if they have some sort of quota to fill
It's very common for every movies to have this as if they have some sort of quota to fill
the speach of the teacher was epic
I bet they're still 90% white and straight though, and probably 70% male. And that those depicted in the (significant) minority are probably complaining less about it than you.
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"Cry bullies".
That really is perfect.They want safe spaces. I'm all for them. As a shield. You can have all the safe space you want alone with your friends, in a private context and in private spaces. Not as a sword, to co-opt and appropriate a public space. Not to shut down other people's ability to speak.
That's a favourite liberal talking point which is clearly and very obviously not the case if you look at the videos or the pictures, nor even close.
"Cry bullies".
They want safe spaces. I'm all for them. As a shield. You can have all the safe space you want alone with your friends, in a private context and in private spaces. Not as a sword, to co-opt and appropriate a public space. Not to shut down other people's ability to speak.
I love the part where he asks "who gets to decide if its offensive?" and they all answer "when it hurts me" while pointing at themselves. Would like to take them on a grand tour of how much the world and nature don't give a shit about their sensitivities. Don't they realise how weak they're assuming themselves to be? And how they are ultimately the most affected by such an attitude?
Pictures of what? Sky1981's favourite sitcoms?
I think you've attributed this to the wrong argument.
The Yale story does indeed look like some kind of hideous version of South Parks PC bros.
Is that really an issue for you though? I would argue dependant upon setting those things are pretty common. If your show is set in New York, you'd want to have a show that reflect New York, so that would mean having characters of all races and probably sexualities.
The only show that I can remember being overly PC that I watched recently was Sense 8 but even that calmed down after a few episodes.
... you're quite right, I'm sorry about that! Coming off a long day.
Not that you or anyone else in this thread is making this argument (sorry again), but I've seen people from the left try to dismiss this with classic no-true-Scotsmaning - "they don't really represent us, they're just privileged Tumblrinas trying to be blacker than black!" That doesn't appear to be true. It just factually doesn't, unfortunately.
Seriously, though, the brass neck of those fecking sissies at Yale. When did the bar for what is and isn't offensive fall so pitifully low? God help us all when they leave those cloistered walls and start entering the work-force...
Every night I secretly hope some of them come into investment banking... But that's a false hope, they're already too repulsed by it to consider. Banking will get the usual bunch of greedy maniacs and bright kids who heard they can make better money than in engineering.
Why should I complain? I'd simply stop watching. But this is a thread where there are a question on whether or not PC actually gone overboard, and I was thinking yes, that's how I felt lately at least in a small aspect of a few movies I happened to see
Oh trust me, it's not as in I hate certain race or anything, but it seems very forced.
I watched "How to get away with Murder" and halfway through the season I was watching:
Female black married with white male while at the same time having an affair with a black?
Hispanic girls banging white man
Black banging white hippy chick
Gay white boy banging asian gay boy
and that's on top of my head, and that is the 5 main protagonist in the movie.
That's in the first half of the season, I don't mind interracial relationship portrayed in the movie, neither gay/lesbian/whatever, but if you get all that in half a season of a mini series then that'd feel like some sort of representativeness quota shoved down my throat.
I have no problem if one of two of the above is happening, and it's probably adds an interesting dimension to whatever I'm watching but nowdays they, but too much can be a bit of a turned of
Dude, "a black" is not the preferred nomenclature.
Not sure how i should call them, afro american? I tried to use that terms but in here every one else is using black and i supposed there's no issue with it.
Honestly i find it hard to mention that particular race without the risk of being misinterpreted, i guess i better stick to slagging rooney in the footbal forum
With regards to the films/movies, that's just demographics at work. Studios want to appeal to as many people as possible in order to maximise profit. That's why you'll see warrior women (Hunger Games, etc) and such, it appeals to teenage girls.
Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here. This is a guy...
Suppossed so, it's all about ratings for them, I don't think they're actively being racist or over PC nor that they care as long as the movie sells.
*points* "He's 'aving a go at the Irish now!"
Must admit I watch that show as well and didn't even notice how many interracial/gay relationships there was. It is set in an university where there is lots of banging going on.
This stuff was just starting at the end of my undergrad career. I'm glad they never heard me and my friends discussing the Chapelle Show or Blazing Saddles. Even South Park. They discuss important social issues and problems in a manner that is entertaining and gets across a point even if it could be in an offensive manner.
Most people like the students don't believe in freedom of speech and treat it as a tool of the Man/Patriarchy/whatever to keep them down. The hypersensitivity will lead to some amazing shocks when they enter the real world. Perhaps they should worry about actual injustices rather than perceived ones.