Paying $100k in student loans to be told what you want to hear. What a pathetic state of affairs. Even more disturbing is the fact that these morons are being entertained by the school administrations.
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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I know a few like the girl in the video. They're ok until you commit the cardinal sin of disagreeing with them. Then they turn nasty for some reason. Basically, 'individualism is great, as long as it suits my individualism'.
man look...
What? Was just a quip, meant nothing serious by it.
It's a quip with an element of truth, hence the laugh. Know many people who went down that path.
What I notice is when you refer to white or Asian people you use that as an adjective. "White male", "Hispanic girls", "Asian gay boy".
When you talk about black people it is a noun. A "female black", a "black" banging a white chick.
Not a black girl banging a white man or a black man banging a white hippy chick. A black banging a white chick.
It jars slightly when you read it. All you need is a bit of consistency.
Ah, ok. Thought I might be on the end of an engineer counter-attack. The PC Police have got me on my toes.
Ah, thanks for the explanations. My English wasn't that good. I'll keep that in mind
Sky can speak for himself, but just to clarify, I suspect this is a linguistic hangup rather than any kind of conscious or subconscious differentiation. I think, and I could be completely wrong, that Bahasa Indonesia, like Malay, has unique grammatical rules for "black man" (orang hitam "man black" or orang kulit hitam "man skin black") relative to "white man" (mat salleh, "mad sailor") or "yellow man" (orang cina, "man China"). In that its only for people of African descent that the specific skin colour is part of the term for that person. I'm sure he meant no offence, either way.
I barely speak either language so I'm probably way off, though.
It's pretty obvious Sky meant no offence, and that English isn't his first language.
I know @Uzz , but I get Adebesi's point as well, that the noun/adjective thing is a subconscious differentiation of blacks and everyone else. And that could be subtly construed as offensive (maybe by the people in the OP!) I'm just trying to clarify, probably not very well, that I don't even think that's what's happening here.
Sorry if it reads differently, should be more careful next time.
fecking hell.
Sorry if it reads differently, should be more careful next time.
"Its not about creating an intellectual space"... wow... phrase of the year. How does someone with such thoughts get accepted to Yale?
You're not off, but that's semantic and indonesians seldom use proper "orang hitam" or "chinese man" for racial slur, they simply bang it with "cina", a racist remakrs for chinese, or thr equivalent of "nigger" for black. For us its man black instead of black man grammatically speaking.
I see clearly now what adebesi meant after his explanation.
Why? Why should seeing people different than you be a turn off? And do you thus only accept shows as "normal" if they depict an overwhelmingly singular cultural representation? Do you expect black people complain about the mount of white people in The Wire, or A Tyler Perry film?
It's just a very odd outlook, IMO. They do exist you know? These others. They haven't been invented by TV.
I live a sheltered life in Dorset, yet Even I have witnessed or know someone who fits all the profiles you've listed.
Because mockney these aren't real life situation, these are man made scenarios and script.
Ive been to uni and seen all that happening in one classroom and i didnt raise an eyebrow. If that's what happened i wouldn't come here and tell you its off, it's just life and people are getting more accepting towards differences. Good.
What turns me off is the political correctness the tv producer are trying to portray, which makes the whole situation unrealistic.
Ive been to uni and seen all that happening in one classroom and i didnt raise an eyebrow. If that's what happened i wouldn't come here and tell you its off, it's just life and people are getting more accepting towards differences. Good.
What turns me off is the political correctness the tv producer are trying to portray, which makes the whole situation unrealistic.
Ive live in Indonesia and even ive seen or known someone who fits all the profiles myself. But the odds of that 5 combinations happens to getting involved in the same murder case? Tied with the same professor, all picked up as the best of the class?
Look, if you dont accept my opinion that tv are pc these days then let's just agree to disageee there. There's no need to make it as some kind of a campaign against interracial sex or anything against portrayal of the society.
Na bro, I get your point about about all the profiles appearing at once and it's unlikelihood.
So surely the script writer can invent how many black, white, gay, purple monkey dishwashers he wants in the show without it being anyone's problem or business?
Not to mention the show you mention as an example is based in an East coast American University, not a remote scandinavian fishing village. What remit do you have to claim it's unrealistic? I live in London and know (or have known) an example of every supposedly "PC" thing you've mentioned.
All those shows are patently still all spectacularly white, male and straight. You just don't notice it as such a standout "thing" when yet another white straight male character turns up.
I knew a Scandinavian fisherman once. He loved black women something crazy.
Ok. I guess we just have a different perception of what is pc and what's not pc
wait, what? My Caf name is racist?
your tagline now too.
What's happening in TV/Movies today isn't PC - it's much needed diversification. Diversification that reflects the reality around us.
That doesn't mean - I want a black superman or for Bruce Wayne to become Chinese or Indian
That doesn't mean - I want a black superman or for Bruce Wayne to become Chinese or Indian
Or Sherlock Holmes to be made gay... oh was I thinking out loud?
It's really all about money. Certain shows have target audiences and they pander to the wider demographic within that audience. TV shows have never accurately reflected reality, or even the microcosm of the reality in which they're based.
Why? Aren't minorities entitled to play fictional characters?
What's happening in TV/Movies today isn't PC - it's much needed diversification. Diversification that reflects the reality around us.
That doesn't mean - I want a black superman or for Bruce Wayne to become Chinese or Indian
Why? Aren't minorities entitled to play fictional characters?
There was talk of a black James Bond. Bloody outrageous.
Are black people actually more likely to watch a show if it has a black character? Same goes for other races.
I wouldn't have a problem with a black, brown, Asian, whatever Superman as Superman is technically an alien from another planet so the fact he's even white doesn't really make sense. As long as whoever they select to play the role pulls it off well then its fine by me.
Bruce Wayne it's a little bit different, Bruce Wayne is a name that would imply British heritage so how do you make that work with him being Indian or Chinese? Him being black could work but in reality, I don't think there are any black billionaires and I doubt there are any black families in the USA that are even close to having the kind of influence and power the Wayne family holds. With that said, him being mixed race could work however.
I feel like we're going off topic, so my point is, diversity of characters is fine as long as it fits the character.
Bruce Wayne it's a little bit different, Bruce Wayne is a name that would imply British heritage so how do you make that work with him being Indian or Chinese? Him being black could work but in reality, I don't think there are any black billionaires and I doubt there are any black families in the USA that are even close to having the kind of influence and power the Wayne family holds. With that said, him being mixed race could work however.
I feel like we're going off topic, so my point is, diversity of characters is fine as long as it fits the character.
There are quite a few black billionaires.. Oprah for one. Names really don't imply anything, never mind heritage.
The Obama family?
Remember I'm talking about the Wayne family here, they would be one of the richest families in the world and the owner of a huge conglomerate. Oprah simply does not control industries in the same way the Wayne family is portrayed as. Oprah is worth $3.2 billion but in relative terms she is a League 2 billionaire, and with Oprah I doubt she comes close to hold the same kind of influence over world politics as some billionaires would have. In addition to that, she really is an exception to the rule.
Obama family has power now, but after 2016 he will not, he will still have a lot of influence but not enough to change the direction of certain industries or governmental policy.
A name implies a lot, of course names can be adopted, but how often does this happen? More often than not a name is sign of heritage and well the name Wayne would imply some kind of British heritage and that would probably mean being white. He could be black because in the USA, many black people have surnames that are of British origin due to slavery.
Yeah, just ask Tyler Perry. His formula for films is: blaaaaaaaack peeooople.
It's a fictional world.
Anglo-Christian names don't always signify white heritage...religion though? Yeah pretty much always.
I think to a certain degree - yes.
Obviously - that doesn't mean you just throw up any old shit and xyz race will watch it simply because the actors look like them. But, growing up I know for a fact, I had black friends who loved watching In Living Color as opposed to Saturday Night Live.
It wasn't just because a lot of the cast was black (Jim Carrey was an obvious and famous exception) - but they felt they were more in tune with the humor.
https://medium.com/@aaronzlewis/what-s-really-going-on-at-yale-6bdbbeeb57a6
As usual, not so black-and-white. Excuse the pun.
As usual, not so black-and-white. Excuse the pun.
Surely she's been punished by the university?
And I have to admit I underestimated this trend, think I was arguing on an early page that this was little more than a few eejits on twitter. Clearly that was wrong.