Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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Weaste's bedroom.
Just found the article about it http://heatst.com/culture-wars/whit...ltural-appropriation-says-canadian-professor/
That's like the complete opposite of a safe space.
Wasn't that what BLMs agenda was all about?
Still makes me laugh all the excuses he comes up with for not getting laid, when in actual fact women probably saw right through him. If you're good with women in any Western nation, you will probably have no trouble picking up girls in Denmark. Plus his comments reek of "it's fine, you're ugly anyway", I think on average women in Denmark are better looking than the UK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canoe
Now I know it is Wiki, but just a quick check of the history of the canoe finds that the oldest known canoe comes from.....wait for it.........wait for it.......THE FECKING NETHERLANDS. Stupid idiot professor can't even do a little research and find out that different types of canoes have been used by cultures all over the world. So how the feck does this jerk wad come to the conclusions that it is awful for white men to use them.
We can't let facts or history get in the way of talking bollocks.
Fiddy weighs in on Honey G and cultural appropriation
"She is entertaining, and I guarantee there is not going to be a hip-hop artist in the world who is going to be offended by her,"
"I would like to see her go far, at least she is bringing some happiness into the world. My message to her is haters always gonna hate, rise above it."
"For anybody who thinks a white person performing music of black origin is racist, you know they don't know what racism really is… These people complaining ain't got a clue. A middle-aged white woman rapping along to Dre and Tupac ain't even close to being racist."
"She is entertaining, and I guarantee there is not going to be a hip-hop artist in the world who is going to be offended by her,"
"I would like to see her go far, at least she is bringing some happiness into the world. My message to her is haters always gonna hate, rise above it."
"For anybody who thinks a white person performing music of black origin is racist, you know they don't know what racism really is… These people complaining ain't got a clue. A middle-aged white woman rapping along to Dre and Tupac ain't even close to being racist."
There are lots of other articles about similar things on there from the looks of it.
Brown University 
That has to be offensive for someone, right?
That has to be offensive for someone, right?
Brown University
That has to be offensive for someone, right?
It's named after a family who were big funders of the University in it's early days. but I am sure they have received questions about their name.
My quick wiki-search tells me, that the family brown wasn't particularly *ehm* brown. Thats offensive.
I was at Brown's Hotel last Saturday for a Stag party. While a very relaxing place, the bar bill should definitely have had a trigger warning.
Some of you have a really poor grasp of what racism and oppression actually are, do and mean in the real world. That Berkeley shit is daffy duck, hippy yout nonsense, obviously, but it's not oppressive, or even closely equivalent to the Civil Rights movement.
Comparing slightly inconveniencing white students entering one entrance of a College, with the aim of setting up misguided but harmless social areas, with the hate fuelled resistance of the state, police and populace to black people even being allowed in centres of higher learning, by penalty of law, is crass to say the very least..
Young idealist liberals can be idiots. Always have been. Don't use it as justification to become an even more idiotic Mail comment section dickhead.
Comparing slightly inconveniencing white students entering one entrance of a College, with the aim of setting up misguided but harmless social areas, with the hate fuelled resistance of the state, police and populace to black people even being allowed in centres of higher learning, by penalty of law, is crass to say the very least..
Young idealist liberals can be idiots. Always have been. Don't use it as justification to become an even more idiotic Mail comment section dickhead.
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I wish I was still young enough to violate a cute coed's safe space.
Although that argument was not just exclusively a white argument. The Nation of Islam(Who's members included Malcom X and Muhammed Ail)were a believer in the idea of segregation or the Black Nation - Martin Lurther King "When Cassius Clay joined the Black Muslims and started calling himself Cassius X he became a champion of Racial Segregation and that is what we are fighting against. I think perhaps Cassius should spend more time proving his boxing skill and do less talking".I had a thought about this as well. It would be a good counter to those wanting segregation to hang a bunch of these pictures in front of them and remind them a bit about history.
Oddly many of the people who were against integration and the end of "separate but equal" would go on about the how it would not be safe, it would make people uncomfortable, get in the way of learning, and of course a lot of other vile reasons.
Later on Malcom X and Ail would dismiss the idea of segregation(Ali doing so after a trip to Mecca and seeing white Muslims), but I image what we are seeing today has some roots in the separation not segregation argument of the early 50's to late 70's. But it's always worth saying that the people in video are really just kids a bit stupid ones, still kids.
You're right, of course. What's going on in (some) US campuses isn't comparable to the proper, systematic racism from the bad old days. But it does feel like their version of a civil rights movement is jumping the shark when they decide that the logical next step to move away from all that shit is basically the exact opposite of progress.
'Playful racism'? That's a new one on me.
The point of the pictures I posted was to point out the days of old when many people fought against segregation not encouraged it. That and the irony of now protesting for segregation when that was what many racist whites wanted to maintain not so long ago (and some still do).
Back in the 60's it was college age students who helped push for civil rights, women's rights, ending the war in Vietnam.
But targeting someone because of their skin color, religion, gender, sexuality is something that really should not be encouraged at our Universities. Even if it does not reach the levels of true oppression.
Back in the 60's it was college age students who helped push for civil rights, women's rights, ending the war in Vietnam.
But targeting someone because of their skin color, religion, gender, sexuality is something that really should not be encouraged at our Universities. Even if it does not reach the levels of true oppression.
My irony detector just exploded.When it starts to work its way into law, I'll worry. Until then, I'll resist getting worked up. However, you're not completely wrong. The biggest problem modern leftism has is its tendency to slip into parody, and thus inadvertently become a recruitment tool for the right. The whole censorious attitude the likes of Jon Ronson exposed, is definitely something I find worrisome...There's merit there, for sure... However...
For one, Whites most certainly aren't a minority on that campus. It's Berkley FSS! What on earth would give you that idea? For two, are you actually implying that this imaginary minority status is the only thing stopping white students from assaulting peaceful ethnic protesters? Because if that's the case, you've just made a far better case for minority safe spaces, than any protester could possibly hope to!
Even ignoring that particular lunacy, it's still worth pointing out that white people pretending to be outraged by this kind of nothing are just feigning outrage. The kind of outrage you shrug off over dinner, rather than seeth over for generations. All in order to justify an insecure discomfort at the change in stauts quo. Like Donald Trump complaining about getting less time in the debates than Hilary, when he was factually shown to have gotten more; For those born on the right side of privilege, and losing the most territory, equality always feels like oppression.
No you wouldn't. You've probably feck all idea what being oppressed means in tangible terms. It doesn't mean "being peeved enough of an evening to rant a bit on the net"..It means being consistently held back and fecked over by the mechanisms of power for generations, then getting told you're overstepping your boundaries when you're given small, reparational advantages to make up for your deep endemic powerlessness....And then being told that's oppressing those comfortable with the status quo.
Yes, because the two things would be significantly different, contextually. In the same way Cracker and Nigger are. White people stopping blacks from entering a college in 2016, would have poignant historical president, and could be actively and genuinely hurtful to black people. Black people telling whites to walk a few meters to the left, has no context at all, and would only engender anything approaching anger in those desperate for a pee. Or desperate for an argument.
@Pogue Mahone Look what you've done!?
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The online mob isn't an exclusively left wing problem though. I'm not even sure how left wing mobs have become so contentious and thought of as a dominating one. Perhaps because newspapers and online click farms have realised there's money to be made in copy-paste journalism. But I struggle to think of ethics in gaming journalism (mandatory lol) or Leslie Jones taking abuse for doing a white mans job as SJW crowds.
But, hey ho, white men are totally oppressed so what would I know.
But, hey ho, white men are totally oppressed so what would I know.
In other words, a run of the mill society?
LGBT kids definitely know more about being oppressed than you do. There's no contest there.
It's the Trump/Farage/Clarkson model of idiocracy. Blame criticism of your ideas on imaginary victimization by the all knowing, all seeing (and probably super-Jewy) lefty liberal media...Despite existing solely on the support of the infinitely more powerful, reactionary, Murdoch controlled, right wing media, that owns 80% of our newspapers, most of our television, and yet still spends most of its energy trying to undermine the one, small, license fee funded corner of the cultureshepre it doesn't control.
And why hasn't anyone shut down Heaven yet? Down with these safe spaces!
I don't think anybody here is suggesting that what is occurring on campuses is comparable in its societal impact. However, universities do represent that final transition between schooling and the workplace, and we should want our next generation to be as inclusive as possible.
In one of the articles posted earlier, it referred to a universities where grief and sexuality events were divided upon racial lines; why should this course be encouraged? Empathy and understanding have more to do with someone's personality and mindset than their ethnicity.
In one of the articles posted earlier, it referred to a universities where grief and sexuality events were divided upon racial lines; why should this course be encouraged? Empathy and understanding have more to do with someone's personality and mindset than their ethnicity.
I think that's shown itself through a lot of the Donald Trump supporting groups on Reddit and the like. In their attempt to somehow be different, or trying to highlight their supposed oppression...they're just as oppressive to any dissenting opinion as any left-wing group they claim to hate...probably much, much more so, but seem to lack the self-awareness to see it, or perhaps just don't want to admit it.
If you combine all different denominations of "Asian" into one, manageable monthly "Asian", then sure. But then that would be pretty darn racist, really...
Aside from failing to accept how wrong you were about the Berkely demographics (because hey, why should factual accuracy matter when you're making sweeping prejudicial judgements about races!?) you're now saying that a white majority would indeed increase violence, but only by being so irresistibly white and awesome, that the huddled minority masses would inevitably rise up and attack them?...because... Why not?
Please correct me if I'm wrong, because that sounds so awful, I'm sure I must have misinterpreted it.
By now I'm well aware that I'm wasting my time with you, but it'd be remiss of me to not at least try and point out (for the benefit of others) that the fact you feel comically indifferent to this outrage, proves precisely how unwarranted the comparison between actual racism, and your idea of racism, is.
White students wouldn't have to campaign for white spaces, because 99.99% of spaces are white by default. Once again, this is the point. Racism doesn't exist in a vacuum. After centuries of slavery, and a mere 50 odd years of attempted rehabilitation, we can't just handwave ourselves back to default!
The last 300+ years of history has been a long form tale of white people stopping blacks from entering everything!...It's only in the last half century or so that we've even begun to look at it any differently.
Ipso Facto; Racism's done! The Fresh Prince cured it. Well done everyone!
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It's always worth noting he's the guy who said feminist on twitter fish for rape threats.
Good post.
I'm not in favour of a space segregated by colour or any other characteristic*. But to equate that to, say segregated bathrooms is misleading. This particular space was a meeting to discuss experiences of racial discrimination, which is nothing like a bathroom (that has nothing to do with race**)
* Though if there was a women-only rape victim meeting...I don't see how I'd object.
Was wondering if I would have to point this out
**Insert correlation between race and penis length here.
Most 'racism' these days is daffy duck, hippy nonsense. Funnily enough much of the Looney Tunes back catalogue struggles to get airtime now because a lot of it offends someone or other. There is very little real racism left of the ilk that created racial segregation in the US. Still, excluding someone based on the colour of their skin is the very definition of racism, and you can be absolutely certain it would be global news if it was the other way around. Don't try and sugar coat it.
The only sugar coating here is the attempt to ignore the hundreds of years of racism that still have a very real effect, including Mike Pence an actual person trying to become Vice President of the US actively pursuing the suppression of black voters and Donald Trump, an actual person trying to become President of the US wanting to ramp up the consistently proven to be racist broken windows and stop and frisk practices in US police departments. Liberal hippy nonsense that's lead to the deaths of thousands of black men, that's lead to the extremely disproportionately racist implementation of the war on drugs that imprisons black men for private profit. Daffy Duck racism that made it possible for doubting the legitimacy of the first black president to thrust someone as a major party candidate for president. If these things aren't real racism, what the feck is? Do you need to see an actual lynching to think there's a problem?
Minority communities don't want to have to rely to having private meetings and and they don't want to have to focus on relatively narrow policies. But the way the deck is stacked against them means they have to. It's not a choice, but a necessity.
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Straight white people complaining they're not allowed to go to an LGBT workshop meant for people of colour are a bit like an ugly, single, overweight, STD ridden drunk complaining he's not allowed to enter burning man's orgy tent. Is it really that difficult to work out why?
You're right, we should tell everyone that there's no such thing as systemic bias and discrimination. That'll lead to way more progress. Sticking your head in the sand never hurt anyone, right?